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Sir Kodiak posted:An object in superposition can exhibit behavior different from what would be observed if the object was in any one quantum state. It is, from the perspective of the observer, a distinct way for another thing to be. He had started updating every Monday. Except this was Labor day weekend, so it went up early. Not a huge shocker
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 Newstrip! Soo.. V to the rescue finally? I think Belkar will need a lot of 20s to get out of this one alive. Message fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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Sep 3, 2013 07:34
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Tarquin thinks Roy is Elan's doomed mentor. (Elan's mentor was, in actuality, Julio Scoundrel, who skipped out of the story because he knew that being a hero's mentor would doom him otherwise.)
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Sep 3, 2013 07:38
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Now would be a good time for V to turn up and forcecage Roy.
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Sep 3, 2013 07:39
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That's what I was thinking too, but now I'm trying to figure out what V could do in this situation. His barred schools contain all the nice escape spells, and even with V I don't see the order holding off an army of dino-riders and most of an epic level adventuring party.
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Sep 3, 2013 07:46
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V wakes up and yells "GO THROUGH THE GODDAMN RIFT ALREADY"
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Sep 3, 2013 07:50
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Whoever called "Tarquin doesn't realize this isn't Elan's comic" wins the pool. Guess we're going through the rift after all.
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Sep 3, 2013 07:53
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This sounds silly but Belkar's line gets a lot funnier when you make sure to put the correct emphasis on "your". "Can't we go back to dealing with YOUR daddy issues?
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Sep 3, 2013 07:59
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Nah, look at Durkon. He's about to bust out something unholy and medieval.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:04
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Oh my god, I actually had a loud guffaw come out of me when I scrolled down to Kill the ones in the crater. That was probably my favorite "Oh poo poo!" moment in a while.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:09
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Oh man, I saw a Jet Li movie that ended like this...
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Sep 3, 2013 08:14
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Nipponophile posted:Oh man, I saw a Jet Li movie that ended like this... It didn't end well for Jet Li.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:31
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Potooweet posted:Guess we're going through the rift after all. It's the only way. They'll never catch up to Xykon now. The only way to beat him to the last gate will be by cutting through Snarlworld.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:37
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Hmm, it's pretty unlikely any of those arrows or swords are going to be able to hurt the devil or Durkon, as both have great AC and damage resistance. Roy might be able to hold out until V shows up or Elan and/or Haley come up with something clever. Belkar though...Belkar might just be hosed here. Of course "Belkie" was perceptive enough to see the "hide in the casket" escape, and he does have the Ring of Jumping. hurling himself through the portal may well be his out here.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:44
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I agree that Durkon and the Devil are most likely beyond the ability of Tarquin's rank-and-file to inflict damage upon, but there are plenty of big dinosaurs stomping around, to say nothing of Tarquin and his party. On that note, I would imagine the catgirl is present and simply hasn't revealed herself yet, since she was with the robed man in the palace, though it's honestly not like they really need her help to win this fight. Belkar is in dire straights, since he's one or two natural twenties away from the graveyard and there are a lot of mooks. Vaarsuvius doesn't have any spells that can save them; even a Forcecage would just have Tarquin busting out the marshmallows for a day or so. With Tarquin's ring of True Seeing and at least one full caster on hand it's doubtful that they'd even be able to get out themselves with Invisibility. I guess we're going to find out what's on the other side of the rift rather soon.
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Sep 3, 2013 08:54
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Ugh. This is the second time that Rich has used this exact scene.
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Sep 3, 2013 10:43
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This is a pretty good moment for Rich to show noon-D&D aficionados how OP a wizard can be. Kill half the soldiers, and then have the order run away.
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Sep 3, 2013 11:02
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Alchenar posted:Ugh. This is the second time that Rich has used this exact scene. Foreshadowing. He's an evil emperor, and he's got an army, what else is he going to do with it? Synchronised dance-off? I think it's a fantastic twist, it was basically Chekhov's dino-horde the moment it arrived.
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Sep 3, 2013 11:26
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Sir Kodiak posted:Are you referring to the separate entries for "Dead" and "Alive"? Because those are both contextually conditional upon turning him over in those conditions, which are mutually exclusive. If you kill him before transferring custody, you're turning him over dead. If you kill him after transferring custody, you're not turning him over dead, you're just killing a prisoner. You are really, really bad at thinking like a PC.
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Sep 3, 2013 11:31
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Alchenar posted:Ugh. This is the second time that Rich has used this exact scene. I think this is actually saying a lot more about Tarquin than Rich. Tarquin knows how to do exactly two things. Control others or kill them, and his comment "Careful. You're starting to sound like Nale." shows he really wouldn't care that much to kill Elan if he doesn't allow himself to be controlled. I think thats how Elan could truly defeat Tarquin, keep him alive but remove his power thus removing the only two things his character ever knew how to do. Also I suspect he isn't trying to kill Roy at all. It's cliche that heros escape the faceless army they get killed by villains personally. I can see him spinning it like that when Roy gets out of it alive. Theler fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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Sep 3, 2013 12:02
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I was bored and just had my phone so I checked the GITP forum for this strip. Someone timed themselves saying all the lines from when the Fiends possessed V until the current strip and was complaining that it was more than 20 minutes. How is someone spergy enough to do that but not spergy enough to know talking is a free action? 
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Sep 3, 2013 12:49
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Theler posted:I think this is actually saying a lot more about Tarquin than Rich. Tarquin knows how to do exactly two things. Control others or kill them, and his comment "Careful. You're starting to sound like Nale." shows he really wouldn't care that much to kill Elan if he doesn't allow himself to be controlled. I think thats how Elan could truly defeat Tarquin, keep him alive but remove his power thus removing the only two things his character ever knew how to do. As Bongo Bill mentioned, though, Tarquin thinks Elan's the hero and Roy's more like the doomed mentor. He's wrong, in that Julio's the actual mentor and has quite wisely stayed away from Elan, but it helps play into Tarquin's big weakness that although he understands how stories work he doesn't realize how this story is going. Actually, it might be quite the surprise if Tarquin was right and Roy dies here alongside Belkar, thus forcing Elan to become the leader (or, more likely, Haley). Durkon has to go to the North to finish his prophecy of coming home dead, and Belkar's due to die, but there's actually no guarantee that Roy will survive. I guess he probably will though, since he's been presented as the main hero for most of the story and has plenty of unfinished narrative business - plus, if Tarquin did kill him, that'd make Tarquin right about Elan being the actual hero of the story and people might be a bit tired of Tarquin if he keeps warping the story to be about himself.
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Sep 3, 2013 13:26
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Okay. Now it's time to jump through the rift.
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Sep 3, 2013 15:03
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Bongo Bill posted:Tarquin thinks Roy is Elan's doomed mentor. (Elan's mentor was, in actuality, Julio Scoundrel, who skipped out of the story because he knew that being a hero's mentor would doom him otherwise.) Maybe he'll swoop down now and rescue them because he just couldn't resist the dramatic urge. Then he'll die in an heroic sacrifice. (Just kidding this is probably V's time to shine)
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Sep 3, 2013 15:16
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Meticulous timekeeping aside those 20 minutes really must be up soon, if only because V needs to be around to flee with the rest of the gang. Picture them floating on the endless ocean on the other side and V goes "look at the bright side, I've known about this for months, so I prepared a boat summoning spell."
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Sep 3, 2013 15:22
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More to the point, the fiends pretty much need the Order alive and more or less intact to counter Xykon. Even if the 20 minutes aren't up yet, they'd be well advised to flip the switch and release V now so she can preserve the rest of the team.
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Sep 3, 2013 15:38
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I think Tarquin is due for a hard fall really soon. The only narrative way he could get away with everything he is doing would be if he was replacing Xykon as the main villain of the story, which I'm sure he thinks he's doing, but it's going to come back to bite him.
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Sep 3, 2013 16:36
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While we're shooting in the dark over what's next, isn't Sabine due to show up soon? I doubt she'd be able to do anything on her own, but her and V at the same time could possibly cause enough distractions to let the Order get away scot-free (or at least without having to jump into the rift).
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Sep 3, 2013 16:55
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Pseudoscorpion posted:While we're shooting in the dark over what's next, isn't Sabine due to show up soon? I doubt she'd be able to do anything on her own, but her and V at the same time could possibly cause enough distractions to let the Order get away scot-free (or at least without having to jump into the rift). Nah, she's banished for a full 24 hours. It's been a few hours since the Holy Word, but not a full day yet. She's going to miss the whole thing.
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Sep 3, 2013 17:02
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She's still got most of a day to go because of Durkon's banishment on her, right? E:f,b
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Sep 3, 2013 17:02
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A.o.D. posted:You are really, really bad at thinking like a PC. Or just really good at thinking like a DM.
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Sep 3, 2013 17:47
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You know, I was thinking about Elan's secret plan to defeat Tarquin that requires's Durkon's help. Does a helm of opposite alignment need cleric spells to craft? Maybe Elan's thinking of getting Tarquin to undo all of his own machinations himself?
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Sep 3, 2013 18:45
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Does such a helm change the person's mindset to match that of the alignment, or can they still think/act the same as usual, they just don't pop up on Detect Evil/Good?
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Sep 3, 2013 18:54
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Regalingualius posted:Does such a helm change the person's mindset to match that of the alignment, or can they still think/act the same as usual, they just don't pop up on Detect Evil/Good? From the SRD: Alteration in alignment is mental as well as moral, and the individual changed by the magic thoroughly enjoys his new outlook. ... the affected individual does not make any attempt to return to the former alignment. (In fact, he views the prospect with horror and avoids it in any way possible.)
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Sep 3, 2013 18:58
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I love that Belkar is just annoyed by this development.
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Sep 3, 2013 19:01
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Red Metal posted:From the SRD: Ahh, I getcha. Still, such a plan seems rather risky, considering Tarquin has four friends that'd immediately know something's up AND it relies on him never attempting to take it off for even the most mundane reasons. E: Oh, just noticed the part about the change requiring a Wish to undo. 
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Sep 3, 2013 19:04
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We had a friend in a campaign that got cursed with a ring of contrariness, which made him reject any argument or decision we made and want to do the opposite. No one noticed.
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Sep 3, 2013 19:10
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Oh hey I wasn't excepting a comic on my birthday  V is going to show up next comic. They just showed her in hell last comic. Showing a gun in comic 1, then an problem in comic 2, and then using said gun to solve the problem in comic 3. That is basic story telling right there.
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Sep 3, 2013 19:18
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Mylan posted:Does a helm of opposite alignment need cleric spells to craft? Maybe Elan's thinking of getting Tarquin to undo all of his own machinations himself? At this point, Durkula's a more viable target for that.
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Dr Pepper posted:I love that Belkar is just annoyed by this development. Belkar's the PC-iest of the PCs, I think. Which is to say, he views the entire thing as a game, and everyone else just thinks he's a sociopath because he doesn't have any empathy for any NPCs or any of the "characters" the other "PCs" are playing. To that end, I wouldn't be surprised if he views even his own death as a probably-temporary-inconvenience. Additionally, even Roy's sat and talked about how weird it would be to not flat out know that there's an afterlife. Going through your life with the literal knowledge that there's life after death would probably affect how you approach your inevitable death.
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