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MikeJF posted:I doubt Rich even has it specified in his mind, to be honest.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I think Rich has at one point said that he knows what the MitD is and it will be revealed at some point, although I can't remember where he said this. I meant V's gender.
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Sep 4, 2013 09:46
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Haven't D&D Detectives (D&D&Ds?) figured out exactly what the MitD is already? I remember reading a treatise on it one time.
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Sep 4, 2013 09:46
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OotS has been around for almost ten years, someone's bound to have guessed it by now.
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Sep 4, 2013 09:51
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my dad posted:I think Rich mentioned that V had a gender originally, but after a few strips he figured that having them be ambiguous would be funnier. In one of the early strips, Roy refers to V as "V-man". Rich has mentioned that it was because most readers thought V was female and he wanted a more evenly split opinion. So it's been ambiguous since that strip at least.
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Sep 4, 2013 10:01
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My Lovely Horse posted:OotS has been around for almost ten years, someone's bound to have guessed it by now.
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Sep 4, 2013 10:14
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my dad posted:I think Rich mentioned that V had a gender originally, but after a few strips he figured that having them be ambiguous would be funnier. Yes. quote:I thought I had included female characters. Not in the initial group of six—I totally cop to having Smurfetted that one, even if V reads as female to you—but in the time since. http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15058416&postcount=477
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Sep 4, 2013 10:28
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The Leper Colon V posted:IIRC, the premier theory at this point is a certain psionic monster from Spelljammer that I can't remember the name of. Given the leeway for story over rules that Rich usually has, it fits remarkably well. I thought the general idea at this point was Tarrasque.
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Sep 4, 2013 10:50
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Ursine Asylum posted:I thought the general idea at this point was Tarrasque. That was disproved when it teleported V and O-Chul out of Xykon's tower. Someone itt suggested it might be a Nightmare Beast, which at least doesn't conflict with anything we've seen it do so far.
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Sep 4, 2013 10:53
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Preeeeetty sure it was ruled out right from the beginning.Tarrasque description posted:The tarrasque is 70 feet long and 50 feet tall, and it weighs about 130 tons.
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Sep 4, 2013 11:42
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DoctorTristan posted:That was disproved when it teleported V and O-Chul out of Xykon's tower. Someone itt suggested it might be a Nightmare Beast, which at least doesn't conflict with anything we've seen it do so far. I suggested nightmare beast only because it is boss and dark sun is awesome. Your guess is as good as mine.
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Sep 4, 2013 12:39
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I don't remember if that was an official statement by Rich, but it also has to be something that's easily recognizable for readers who aren't into D&D or the reveal will fall entirely flat for them. Not even "into D&D" the way the savants on his forum are into D&D, but just regular I-know-what-a-tarrasque-is "into D&D". And what's more it would also have to be easily recognizable as a stick figure. There's really not a lot it can still turn out to be that strikes a balance in reactions between "oh so it really is an X just as we said three years ago" and "I don't get it, someone explain?".
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Sep 4, 2013 12:55
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Moddington posted:Preeeeetty sure it was ruled out right from the beginning. Yeah, and as much as I like that theory, non-goblins see mitd as unnaturally hideous, where a tarrasque is just fearsome.
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Sep 4, 2013 13:29
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Maybe the monster in the dark is realistically drawn which is why he looks hideous to stick denizens.
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Sep 4, 2013 13:34
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My Lovely Horse posted:I don't remember if that was an official statement by Rich, but it also has to be something that's easily recognizable for readers who aren't into D&D or the reveal will fall entirely flat for them. Not even "into D&D" the way the savants on his forum are into D&D, but just regular I-know-what-a-tarrasque-is "into D&D". And what's more it would also have to be easily recognizable as a stick figure. There's really not a lot it can still turn out to be that strikes a balance in reactions between "oh so it really is an X just as we said three years ago" and "I don't get it, someone explain?". My personal hunch is it will be a godzila, for the reasons you mentioned
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Fried Chicken posted:My personal hunch is it will be a godzila, for the reasons you mentioned A godzilla from through the Snarl to Earth?
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Moddington posted:Preeeeetty sure it was ruled out right from the beginning. True, but from what was known at the time he's supposed to be a child and additionally (SOD) when he was found the safari guys noted that finding a talking specimen was rare, or something like that. mmkay fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Sep 4, 2013 15:13
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The tarrasque also has no magical powers whatsoever, and I vaguely remember that Rich has said that nothing he has written about the MitD has directly contradicted the actual monster he has in mind.
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Sep 4, 2013 15:27
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Someone mentioned that Spelljammer monster: google gave me someone posting this:quote:It's a Zodar.
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Sep 4, 2013 15:30
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Zodar actually exists in 3.5 as well (in the Fiend Folio). The main difference is that it can use it's Wish once per year, it can double it's Strength three times per day, and it can speak freely, it just usually chooses not to. It's a pretty sound guess.
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Not self-explanatory enough if you ask me. Take the umbrella away to reveal a black suit of armor and your average reader will say "oh wow it's a knight who probably can do magic I guess" and there will be a thread titled "Who's the mysterious knight?" (OP's guess: Miko). Doesn't seem to mesh very well with the SOD backstory either. You're a hunter in the jungle who just caught a suit of armor and it's not a passing knight, your first thought isn't going to be "wow what's one of those doing here, let's sell it to the circus." The only way I can see something obscure like that work out is if the Monster's race, Zodar or other, gets introduced in one of the following books at non-trivial length. I can see that happening, actually. Rather than a sudden reveal of the monster itself you'd have something like the Order meeting those strange creatures, getting to know them through an adventure or two, and then a point where they reveal vast supernatural powers and/or mention that some years ago they lost a youngling, bam, cut to the Monster under its umbrella for the last panel.
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fool_of_sound posted:The tarrasque also has no magical powers whatsoever, and I vaguely remember that Rich has said that nothing he has written about the MitD has directly contradicted the actual monster he has in mind. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html He's got... something magical that he can do.
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Sep 4, 2013 16:17
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Whatever the reveal will be, it will feel like a letdown. At this point, the buildup is simply to huge for a truly satisfying reveal
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Sep 4, 2013 16:20
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The MITD is a sentient umbrella
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terminal mehmet posted:http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html I've spent a long time thinking that was actually a co-incidence and actually some unseen player got V and O-Chul out, but nothing's been hinted at on that front so I think it's safe to say it was the MitD.
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The problem is that I'm not sure what could work at this point. I've been playing D&D (and Pathfinder) for ages and I've never run into either a Nightmare Beast or a Zodar. So for most D&D fans the reaction to either would be "a what?" However the most obvious answer, a baby Tarrasque, doesn't seem to work because there's nothing in the beastie's profile that accounts for "ESCAPE!" So either you've got something too obscure so the reveal doesn't work or you have a version of a classic monster that does things that monster shouldn't be able to and the reveal doesn't work. Either way, he's pretty much painted himself into a corner here. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Sep 4, 2013 16:31
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MikeJF posted:Someone mentioned that Spelljammer monster: google gave me someone posting this: Doesn't really fit with the whole "Oh god, it's hideous! *vomits*," "You are one ugly sumbitch, aren't you?" bits in SoD, either.
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I always thought he was some kind of Obyrith type thing, but that was really only based on the Form of Madness ability and the fact that I just kinda want it to be a Lovecraftian inspired critter. Also because the pre-existing things from the Abyss entertain me.
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You know, Kraagor's gate was populated with all sorts of horrible monsters. Could be that some of MitD's own kind are there (and conveniently in shadow the entire time we see them). It going off to chill with its folks rather than hang around Xykon would be a satisfying enough end to its arc without having to actually have an anticlimax reveal of what it is.
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terminal mehmet posted:http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html Yes, that's my point. It's not a tarrasque.
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Kajeesus posted:Doesn't really fit with the whole "Oh god, it's hideous! *vomits*," "You are one ugly sumbitch, aren't you?" bits in SoD, either. Maybe he hasn't grown his suit of armour yet?
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Sep 4, 2013 17:04
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I thought we had decided that the MitD was a Gazebo.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:I thought we had decided that the MitD was a Gazebo. "poo poo, this beast has Hardness, run!"
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Sep 4, 2013 22:19
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I DO find gazebo's hideous.
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Eifert Posting posted:I DO find gazebo's hideous. That WOULD explain why Miko attacked the darkness.
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Sep 5, 2013 02:16
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Them being able to talk is also really rare. It's all adding up...
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AND they're not exactly plentiful in a rainforest.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:45
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The MitD is the horror of introspection. It's why everyone was uncomfortable and vomited upon seeing it, and why Xykon who is clearly incapable of introspection has no reaction to it.
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Sep 5, 2013 16:30
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New strip! http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0917.html
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Belkar being killed by low-level mooks would be karmic justice. I really don't want them to kill the wacky short dude with a cat.
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