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kcroy
May 30, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Plus, by the time Renly was on the throne he'd have an heir.

Probably by Loras spitting in Margaery because it's GRRMiest.

eew. yeah that would have happened.

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Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

I don't recall there being any gay penises whatsoever on the hit television show Game Of Thrones, erect or otherwise.

Hodor and Theon, right? Hodor is unaffiliated (so far) and Theon was a sister fondling cocksman in his day.

I'm convinced Matt and Trey just got GoT mixed up with Spartacus. That was the show Butters was talking about the whole time, it doesn't really make sense otherwise.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
That makes Butters' complaints about the drat show taking too long to get to the parts with magic and dragons even funnier.

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

bigmcgaffney posted:

I'm pretty torn because nostalgia tells me the first couple books were good, but the show is way better than I think the books would be now. They are pretty cinematic, and I don't think they have much literary quality.

When I started to read GoT, I was a shocked because the writing seemed a bit wooden, for want of a better word; definitely not in line with the high quality feel of the TV series. But the books got better as they progressed, purely from the standpoint of literary quality, meaning the form, not the content.

rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp
I wonder how many show-only people will bow out once Oberyn dies, that's probably the point at which it becomes abundantly clear that nothing "good" happens ever. I've spoken to a couple people who are already tired of that fact. Their favorite character is Dany because she does things with heart.

rawdog pozfail fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Nov 16, 2013

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

OhYeah posted:

When I started to read GoT, I was a shocked because the writing seemed a bit wooden, for want of a better word; definitely not in line with the high quality feel of the TV series.

Yes, "Play with her arse" is just such exquisitely literary, high quality writing. The contrast is indeed, excusez le mot, stark.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
'Play with her arse' got nothing on 'let me clean the jizz off your face real quick so you could go back to whoring'.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

rawdog pozfail posted:

I wonder how many show-only people will bow out once Oberyn dies, that's probably the point at which it becomes abundantly clear that nothing "good" happens ever. I've spoken to a couple people who are already tired of that fact. Their favorite character is Dany because she does things with heart.

And I quit watching. JUST. LIKE. THIS!

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009

emanresu tnuocca posted:

'Play with her arse' got nothing on 'let me clean the jizz off your face real quick so you could go back to whoring'.

That's not a line in the show!

rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp

Shoehead posted:

And I quit watching. JUST. LIKE. THIS!

I don't think it'll be a significant number, but I don't think it'll be 0 either. I know some people who might just be like "This is stupid, I'm done" at some point because of all the down notes.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


rawdog pozfail posted:

I don't think it'll be a significant number, but I don't think it'll be 0 either. I know some people who might just be like "This is stupid, I'm done" at some point because of all the down notes.

After the Red Wedding I kind of thought HBO was going to have to run ads like "Joffrey bites it soon, we promise" to avoid a huge loss in viewers.

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Joramun posted:

Yes, "Play with her arse" is just such exquisitely literary, high quality writing. The contrast is indeed, excusez le mot, stark.

Where is that arse bit from, by the way? I really don't remember it from the books. Maybe I have subconsciously blocked it from my memory (like I wished I had done with the Brienne chapters).

Mr Crustacean
May 13, 2009

one (1) robosexual
avatar, as ordered

OhYeah posted:

Where is that arse bit from, by the way? I really don't remember it from the books. Maybe I have subconsciously blocked it from my memory (like I wished I had done with the Brienne chapters).

It's from the show, where Littlefinger gives the whole 'I won't fight them, I'll gently caress them' speech.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

rawdog pozfail posted:

I wonder how many show-only people will bow out once Oberyn dies, that's probably the point at which it becomes abundantly clear that nothing "good" happens ever. I've spoken to a couple people who are already tired of that fact. Their favorite character is Dany because she does things with heart.

Oh god. Show Dany annoys me so much more than Book Dany, and Book Dany is loving annoying. Emilia Clarke doesn't have much to work with, granted, but every scene with her boils down to "look regal, say vaguely threatening poo poo in a pretentious accent." Maybe that's the whole show, but I find it especially grating in a plot thread where every turn for three books boils down to "we underestimated this Targ chick and her followers, gently caress."

rypakal
Oct 31, 2012

He also cooks the food of his people

rawdog pozfail posted:

I wonder how many show-only people will bow out once Oberyn dies, that's probably the point at which it becomes abundantly clear that nothing "good" happens ever. I've spoken to a couple people who are already tired of that fact. Their favorite character is Dany because she does things with heart.

What a weird response. Joffrey is already dead so you have proof that good things happen. And nobody but nerds on the internet give a gently caress about the red viper, who gets a couple pages and then bites it like a chump.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Maybe viewers will see through the blatant attempt to make you care for a super-cool character only for Gurm to kill him off.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
but hes super cool!

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

I'm sure they'll at least fall for a certain someone of the night.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

jsoh posted:

but hes super cool!

We'll still have ~~Darkstar~~

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Nope, gotta keep the narrative trim and well-flowing. Combine operation!

Darkstaario!

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
So I didn't know what to quote so I'll just say Oberyn is super cool, but we do still have Darkstar-kun and Daario-san, but also Joffrey dying will have a huge impact. So many people hate that guy, which is justified, and he's arguably even worse in the show than the book, which is credit to the actor. Oberyn will be in like 3 episodes tops and won't destroy all the goodwill they build by having Joffrey die. And then a couple eps later Tyrion will take Tywin out like a bitch which will keep people going to the next season, where loving nothing will happen

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

bigmcgaffney posted:

So many people hate that guy, which is justified, and he's arguably even worse in the show than the book, which is credit to the actor.

Book Joff also never killed Ros by riddling her with crossbow bolts.

Because there was no Ros.

Yet.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I mean ros just fills in the roles for like 3 whores from the books that didn't make it onto the show right

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Wonder what GRRM is writing today.....

JETS JETS JETS!

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Jets are getting treated like one of Ramsay's girls.

Gurm will be too depressed to write.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?

bigmcgaffney posted:

So I didn't know what to quote so I'll just say Oberyn is super cool, but we do still have Darkstar-kun and Daario-san, but also Joffrey dying will have a huge impact. So many people hate that guy, which is justified, and he's arguably even worse in the show than the book, which is credit to the actor. Oberyn will be in like 3 episodes tops and won't destroy all the goodwill they build by having Joffrey die. And then a couple eps later Tyrion will take Tywin out like a bitch which will keep people going to the next season, where loving nothing will happen

He shoots his awful father right after throttling his missus in his bed so hopefully that episode will leave people feeling confused as all heck.

Woodpile
Mar 30, 2013

nooneofconsequence posted:

Jets are getting treated like one of Ramsay's girls.

Gurm will be too depressed to write.

Well, I think he's half a world away from his Wordstar machine, but a Jets loss might dampen his ardor for his new, heretofore unforeshadowed, POV hero: Gyno Smythe.

(secret Targ, of course)

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

bigmcgaffney posted:

And then a couple eps later Tyrion will take Tywin out like a bitch which will keep people going to the next season, where loving nothing will happen

Did you forget about Brienne's awesome adventures across Westeros some places sort of a between Riverrun and King's Landing I guess.

Mike N Eich
Jan 27, 2007

This might just be the year

Shoehead posted:

He shoots his awful father right after throttling his missus in his bed so hopefully that episode will leave people feeling confused as all heck.

Some people think the showrunners wont go for the Shae strangling given how much development they've given her and have made her a much more substantive character, and perhaps the desire to keep Tyrion an unblemished "good" character, and instead Tyrion will find her dead in Tywin's bed or something. I'm not so sure, they were certainly ballsy enough to kill a pregnant lady, we'll see. But they've definitely changed some things so her betrayal may be different in some way.

Bulletproof Tiger
Nov 2, 2010
I dunno if its just me, but I find book Shae a lot more likable than TV Shae, In the books I could see why Tyrion liked her, but in the show, she just seems mean and petty and annoying all the time and I won't be sad to see her go.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Bulletproof Tiger posted:

I dunno if its just me, but I find book Shae a lot more likable than TV Shae, In the books I could see why Tyrion liked her, but in the show, she just seems mean and petty and annoying all the time and I won't be sad to see her go.

Yeah but that body tho

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

Bulletproof Tiger posted:

I dunno if its just me, but I find book Shae a lot more likable than TV Shae, In the books I could see why Tyrion liked her, but in the show, she just seems mean and petty and annoying all the time and I won't be sad to see her go.

You kind of got this the other way around, in the books Shae is a run of the mill prostitute and the entire relationship pretty much exists only in Tyrion's imagination. In the show she likes him and is hurt by his marriage to Sansa, she also endangers herself to protect Sansa when she serves as her handmaiden.

Britva Cutter
Jul 9, 2006

No, I'm in touch with humanity.
But golden hands are cold and a woman's hands are soft or some whatever. It's a terrible song

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Mike N Eich posted:

Some people think the showrunners wont go for the Shae strangling given how much development they've given her and have made her a much more substantive character, and perhaps the desire to keep Tyrion an unblemished "good" character, and instead Tyrion will find her dead in Tywin's bed or something. I'm not so sure, they were certainly ballsy enough to kill a pregnant lady, we'll see. But they've definitely changed some things so her betrayal may be different in some way.

Without the betrayal and loving of the dad, he will be less motivated to ask "where do whores go?" every chapter.

Hunky Joe
Dec 21, 2005

I'll fight crime when I feel like it...

Bulletproof Tiger posted:

I dunno if its just me, but I find book Shae a lot more likable than TV Shae, In the books I could see why Tyrion liked her, but in the show, she just seems mean and petty and annoying all the time and I won't be sad to see her go.

I totally agree. In the book she is just innocent and a whore that only cares about gold and getting laid. In the show she is a hard-assed cutthroat killer hat can fend for herself just fine without Tyrion. In the books I was shocked to see she turned on Tyrion and in the show I doubt the TV audience will feel the same with TV Shae. Her attitude is just too cutthroat to be shocked by her turning on Tyrion and it will be more of a cheesy WWE heel turn than character depth.

Anyways I can't wait to see her gone. She is a terrible actress and even her porn was bad.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

Mike N Eich posted:

Some people think the showrunners wont go for the Shae strangling given how much development they've given her and have made her a much more substantive character, and perhaps the desire to keep Tyrion an unblemished "good" character, and instead Tyrion will find her dead in Tywin's bed or something. I'm not so sure, they were certainly ballsy enough to kill a pregnant lady, we'll see. But they've definitely changed some things so her betrayal may be different in some way.

It would be pretty cheesy if it changes to Tyrion killing his father in an act of righteous vengeance for murdering his one true love so that's what I expect as the season closer to top Dany crowdsurfing on the worshipful slaves.

Wangsucker 69
Feb 7, 2004

Shut up, you old bat.
I'm going to be so pissed when this tubby chucklefuck dies. All this thought and analysis people have put into this world and characters will be for nothing cause Admiral Shitdick couldn't put down a pizza and bang out a loving ending to his greatest life's work. RAAAAAAAGE

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

savinhill posted:

It would be pretty cheesy if it changes to Tyrion killing his father in an act of righteous vengeance for murdering his one true love so that's what I expect as the season closer to top Dany crowdsurfing on the worshipful slaves.

His one true love is Tysha

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009

jsoh posted:

His one true love is Tysha

Who also was raped and killed by Tywin, revealed in a shocking bathroom confessional

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rypakal
Oct 31, 2012

He also cooks the food of his people

OhYeah posted:

Did you forget about Brienne's awesome adventures across Westeros some places sort of a between Riverrun and King's Landing I guess.

Wrong book, dude.

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