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Now if you wanted to teach kiddies about the Revolutionary War PBS and Walter Cronkite put together a show about 10 years ago called Liberty's Kids. It did it's best to try and tell a nuanced story from many different perspectives. It had some issues, for instance in the episode about John Paul Jones he tells his crew to raise their flag, upon which I remember a 50 star US flag is raised. I'm not sure if somebody in the animation department hosed up or what. Because the flag was brand new and instructions were kind of vague there were a wide variety of funny looking flags being used at that point. Jones was actually cruising around with a flag that looked like this. Anyway it's a product of evil PBS and multiculturalism so the fundie don't want anything to do with it.
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Christian horror: http://youtu.be/-05Wmrqhqjs
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foodfight posted:Christian horror: http://youtu.be/-05Wmrqhqjs "Holy Moley Productions" just might be the best thing about that film.
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foodfight posted:Christian horror: http://youtu.be/-05Wmrqhqjs I see the fine cinematic tradition of The Life Zone is being continued: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_Iq9D_Clg E: Also, who gets their pornography from magazines anymore? Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 14, 2013 |
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Casimir Radon posted:Now if you wanted to teach kiddies about the Revolutionary War PBS and Walter Cronkite put together a show about 10 years ago called Liberty's Kids. You should have kids watch this just for the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger is Baron von Stueben, Ben Stiller is Thomas Jefferson, and Liam Neeson is John Paul Jones.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 20:16 |
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Being raised Lutheran I got exposed to a lot of this stuff. I can back up Veggie Tales being mostly inoffensive early on, and Bible Man, Left Behind, and all the other Kirk Cameron stuff being supremely lovely. Not to mention my 12 year old brain finally getting some perspective when I was taken on one of our many trips to the christian book store and saw one particular book condemning Pokemon and Harry Potter as being tools of the devil.Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:This thread is just reminding me of the time I went to see Extreme Days and the theme was done by TobyMac and it was as hell. I also very distinctly remember this being relatively okay. I mean, the first few minutes are on youtube and it just seems like the Early 2000-est movie of all time without offending our dear protestant sensibilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSi2h-B1NQ
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Random Stranger posted:The question of "Why does God let bad things happen?" has been at the center of Christian theological thinking for as long as there has been Christianity. It's something that Christians have to deal with every day if they're going to remain Christians. Being presented with that question in a film with a Christian movie isn't going to shake anyone. One problem with modern Christianity is prosperity theology, which states materially good things will happen to good people. I think it's poisoned everything - it's made racism worse, contributed to the immorality of the Republican Party, etc. It's why these movies don't show Christians suffering - that's contradictory to the type of faith they're selling. I mean really, there's a book in the Bible titled Lamentations. Obviously bad things happen to good people. But church leaders avoid those kinds of questions and it makes them useless.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 01:49 |
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Pththya-lyi posted:E: Also, who gets their pornography from magazines anymore?
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 01:50 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOlzjMBkMh4 This was just.... ugh. It's incredibly dumb, and anti-science to the max.
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I'm loving this thread! I saw an episode of Bibleman back when I was going to church, although my church was pretty progressive, so even our youth pastor was making fun of it with how bad it was. Other than a copy of Jesus Christ Superstar (which I never watched) being gifted to me for Easter once, that's about the extent of exposure. Of course this leads me to making up stories about what could actually be a good Christian movie. Sadly every one tends to lead to having to have the church involved and things getting better. I just want to see one where the ethnic sidekick, complete with the racisim tropes, turns out to be Jesus at the end, and the protagonist was an rear end in a top hat all along.
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joylessdivision posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOlzjMBkMh4 There has been a lot of SF stories about that topic but none of them handled it as stupidly as that trailer. Edit: The Google auto complete when I search for the film is "ending explained". And in my desperate search for what this ending is and why it has to be explained I've found out more interesting things. Watch the trailer first because you'll want to be completely baffled when you see it: Apparently there was another movie about cloning Jesus going wrong called Revelations and they spliced Jesus DNA with billionaire DNA. That's a set up for a punchline so easy that I won't lower myself to use it. From what I'm reading, I don't think this is a "Christian movie"; it's more of a religion-themed thriller. However, everything I'm finding makes it sound to be hilariously awful so I'm going to try to watch it. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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Iron Crowned posted:I'm loving this thread! I saw an episode of Bibleman back when I was going to church, although my church was pretty progressive, so even our youth pastor was making fun of it with how bad it was. Other than a copy of Jesus Christ Superstar (which I never watched) being gifted to me for Easter once, that's about the extent of exposure. Is Jesus Christ Superstar really that Christian? It doesn't show the resurrection, Jesus is kind of a dick, Judas is portrayed sympathetically, and the headliner song is questioning Jesus about what the hell he thinks he's trying to do.
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Jesus Christ Superstar comes out of the hippie-Jesus movement of the late '60s and '70s (see also: Godspell, to a lesser extent Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, to a way lesser extent Hair) as opposed to the more right-wing evangelical Christian movement that began in the early '80s. Still definitely Christian, but its purpose was quite a bit different from most of the stuff in this thread, which all comes from the later conservative trend.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 22:28 |
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One Christmas grandma gave a VHS copy of The Creation Adventure Team: 6 Short Days, One Big Adventure to my brother. Which teaches you that if evolution is being taught in your school you should take that as an opportunity to preach creationism to everyone, at the end they will all accept this and clap. If you recognize the dinosaur man from somewhere but can't quite place him, it's because there's a statue of him at the Creation Museum, the same people are behind both ventures. Somebody cut it down to a 10 minute highlight reel. Currently grandma is really pissed off about some conspiracy theory that our school board is planning to make boys and girls shower together, which is being pushed by THE GAYS (You know how much THE GAYS like to peep at vagina!)
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Casimir Radon posted:One Christmas grandma gave a VHS copy of The Creation Adventure Team: 6 Short Days, One Big Adventure to my brother. I-I-I . . . I can't even begin to comprehend the type of message it's trying to convey when there's a DINOSAUR MAN on the cover.
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Davros1 posted:I-I-I . . . I can't even begin to comprehend the type of message it's trying to convey when there's a DINOSAUR MAN on the cover. Kids love dinosaurs. If a scientist says the earth is billions of years old and the dinosaur laughs at him and his beard and says he's 6000 years old, and he should know, who is a kid going to believe?
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Dante Logos posted:Now I just have to throw this out there. Are you willing to review this film sober/slightly inebriated? Like do a play by play of the film? Because I'm curious about what you'll think about the film once you take a good look at it.
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Corek posted:The drug gang there looks like Tobias' "street toughs" in Arrested Development.
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# ? Dec 20, 2013 01:17 |
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The kids are watching this at the beginning of Jesus Camp.
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Davros1 posted:I-I-I . . . I can't even begin to comprehend the type of message it's trying to convey when there's a DINOSAUR MAN on the cover. I'm going to assume that the reason we don't have dinosaur men anymore is that god murdered all of them to teach us a lesson. But not a lesson about evolution.
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Random Stranger posted:There has been a lot of SF stories about that topic but none of them handled it as stupidly as that trailer. I felt like it was a very preachy film, but then again I also haven't watched something like "Left Behind" so my barometer of preachy Christian silliness is maybe a little under used. Also, Bibleman is so loving hysterical. It's a little sad when you hear Willie Aames talk about how he became a born again Christian, but then you watch Bibleman and I don't feel so bad.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:The kids are watching this at the beginning of Jesus Camp.
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Casimir Radon posted:You get a pretty good glimpse of how those kind of families operate in Jesus Camp, from what I remember they showed the kids watching a lot of homeschooling poo poo and being really excited about it. The main family they profiled also had their massive copy of Lord of the Rings taking up a lot of space in the middle of their dinner table which makes me think it was intentionally staged their for some reason. If there's two things homeschooled kids loving love it's LOTR and Narnia.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:If there's two things homeschooled kids loving love it's LOTR and Narnia.
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Casimir Radon posted:The movies must be a pretty schizophrenic experience for them. Ian Mckellen is gay, and Disney loves them queers. Some Baptist association has long had a "boycott" against Disney for the Gay Days thing at Disney World and Disneyland (which Disney doesn't have anything to do with, they just let the people into the park for the day) and they temporarily ended it so their churches could go see Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe (Disney even had a phone line to call to book church screenings of the film)
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Some Baptist association has long had a "boycott" against Disney for the Gay Days thing at Disney World and Disneyland (which Disney doesn't have anything to do with, they just let the people into the park for the day) and they temporarily ended it so their churches could go see Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe (Disney even had a phone line to call to book church screenings of the film)
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Casimir Radon posted:The movies must be a pretty schizophrenic experience for them. Ian Mckellen is gay, and Disney loves them queers. A lot of Christians understand that actors aren't the people they play. There's also a lot of diversity in the strains of whack-a-doodle beliefs amongst homeschoolers (but there's always some) and LOTR and Narnia are things that even parents who won't kids read Harry Potter will still permit, so they create a kind of shared acceptable degree of pop culture for homeschool kids who exist at different states of cultural filtering. Weirdly enough, Douglas Adams is pretty popular with a lot of homeschool kids.
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# ? Dec 20, 2013 04:11 |
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The X-Files parody was unexpected.
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# ? Dec 20, 2013 04:39 |
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I spent my summer in Utah, and one day several of us went to Temple Square in SLC. We caught a showing of the Joseph Smith biographical film. It is magical. It's like the worst B-movie with great production values. I want to own a copy of it. Apparently, there's a few different versions and scenes that the Church rotates out on a regular basis to encourage people to come back.
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Casimir Radon posted:One Christmas grandma gave a VHS copy of The Creation Adventure Team: 6 Short Days, One Big Adventure to my brother. They can't even get their dumb, outdated X-Files references right. Scully/Dinosaur Man is supposed to be the skeptic, not Non-Descript White Man/Mulder. If they can't reference a 90's TV show right, how am I supposed to trust their theories?
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VeggieTales is bland, at worst, but there's occasional gems like these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcf_qD3GW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uv8Ej4CEoQ Actually, the Silly Songs are pretty much always the best part. Still, as mentioned most of them are child-friendly versions of Biblical stories and such teaching various morals and life lessons. Light-hearted and inoffensive (unless you just find all religious stuff offensive), and a great way to keep my nephew entertained when babysitting.
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Bibleman is the lamest superhero ever. He just tries to stop kids from gossiping or fighting and has the worst villains. They always tried to be cartoony and lightly meta about how goofy the bad guys were but really it's just poo poo. Sometimes I like to daydream about interesting ways to launch a Bibleman reboot that would be lightly subversive, and kind of Hijack an IP.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Bibleman is the lamest superhero ever. He just tries to stop kids from gossiping or fighting and has the worst villains. They always tried to be cartoony and lightly meta about how goofy the bad guys were but really it's just poo poo. Maybe something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-oU0_PKAY
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Casimir Radon posted:One Christmas grandma gave a VHS copy of The Creation Adventure Team: 6 Short Days, One Big Adventure to my brother. I live about 45 minutes away from the Creation Museum. I was going to go see it once, but I got to the door, and decided that $35 for pseudoscience was not worth that much. So I went to the aquarium and petted some sharks for $20 instead.
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Casimir Radon posted:One Christmas grandma gave a VHS copy of The Creation Adventure Team: 6 Short Days, One Big Adventure to my brother. I'm a minute in and this is already amazing "Scientists say dinosaurs never co-existed with man, how do they know, I mean, were they there?"
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I'm going to choose to believe man and dinosaurs lived together, and man rode dinosaurs, because that's just far too cool to let silly things like 'facts' and 'science' to get in the way of.
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Improbable Lobster posted:When me and my sister were wee tots we loved Veggietales. I watched this in religion class. My teacher would bring various forms of Christian media in hopes to get people to enjoy it. She had no issue with me mocking everything from DC Talk to Plus One but my two exceptions were the crush I had on Stacie Orrico and that Cheeseburger song from VeggieTales.
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OldTennisCourt posted:I'm a minute in and this is already amazing "Scientists say dinosaurs never co-existed with man, how do they know, I mean, were they there?" The best part is the dinosaur just tickling him because Death wasn't A Thing yet.
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Hewlett posted:Maybe something like this? We don't really have much of a fundie culture here in the UK (although the recent gay marriage laws really pulled them out of the woodwork) so I initially found the Holy Avenger scenes to be kind of awkward and unnecessarily mean. Realising that they were making fun of a show that actually exists was a surreal bit of culture shock.
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Lets! Get! Weird! posted:The best part is the dinosaur just tickling him because Death wasn't A Thing yet. The Creation Museum looks like it has a really nice facility, I wish they'd go bankrupt so something nice could be put in there.
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