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After watching this thing here, here are the other Rider shows I'm interested in from the concept and the designs: Amazon, Kuuga, G (holy poo poo that belt), W, OOO, and Fourze. Black's henshin is one of my favorites in there but I've already watched it. It looks like I've lucked out and all the ones I'm interested in have options other than TV-Nihon so that's cool too. I already know that G is just a 20 minute special, so I have that downloading and plan to watch it tonight. Can anyone give me more information about the quality of the other ones? jonjonaug fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jan 13, 2014 |
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Ｗ, OOO and Fourze were all subbed by W-Time/Over-Time, so you should be good on subs for those series. Also, all three are well done. OOOs takes a little bit to get going, but has a really great ending while Fourze's overall plot never really goes anywhere, but it's saved by it's amazingly likable protagonist. W has a bit of a plot hiccup midway through, but otherwise is a strong show all around. And an early episode that a lot of people dislike: Heaven's Tornado! It's not that bad.
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G is a lot of fun and very watchable, you'll probably enjoy it. Dare I say it has a higher production value than a lot of the other shows too. A lot of people will probably recommend Kuuga to you but honestly I couldn't stand it. Kuuga's own effects might be okay but I found the monster suit designs to often be really lacking and the drama just fell flat for me a lot of the time. Oh, also it wasn't filmed in HD, if that bothers you sorry, but it is what it is. I'd say watch OOO first and then go back and watch W. After that I suppose you can start Fourze if you want but if its not grabbing you feel free to drop it as it never really goes beyond its initial concept. People say Fourze was saved by its main character but honestly I much preferred the supporting cast of OOO and entire cast of W to Gen. Can't comment on Amazon as I haven't seen it. The other big one people tend to recommend, though he wasn't on your list, is Kabuto. I've never seen it but ehh, its probably good.
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jonjonaug posted:After watching this thing here, here are the other Rider shows I'm interested in from the concept and the designs: Amazon, Kuuga, G (holy poo poo that belt), W, OOO, and Fourze. Black's henshin is one of my favorites in there but I've already watched it. It looks like I've lucked out and all the ones I'm interested in have options other than TV-Nihon so that's cool too. Start with W. It's probably the most overall solid of the most recent Kamen Rider shows. I'd go for Kuuga after that which is just an excellent show all-around.
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V3. V3. V loving 3. For the love of Christ, the villains of the first four episodes are Scissor Jaguar, Bazooka Turtle, TV Fly, and Fire Squid AND THEY'RE ALL SUPER COMPETENT. It is, despite everything, one of the most serious Rider shows while still being one of THE most fun and adventurous, and it is fantastic all the way through with a fantastic leading man and great action complimented with some brilliant places they filmed the fights in when they could. And it has the best Rider villain ever, Doktor G. Also Rider-Man. Watch V3!
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Cliff Racer posted:After that I suppose you can start Fourze if you want but if its not grabbing you feel free to drop it as it never really goes beyond its initial concept. People say Fourze was saved by its main character but honestly I much preferred the supporting cast of OOO and entire cast of W to Gen. You know, thinking about it, this sort of sentiment is probably from watching it weekly. Though, it was aired opposite the last half of Gokaiger and the first half of Go-Busters which were both really good. Compared to those, Fourze wasn't nearly as entertaining, but Gentarou was really good in the protagonist role and the suits were really good. On the negative side Fourze's supporting cast dragged things down a little. In the beginning it took way too many episodes to introduce them all because each one had their own 2-episode arc, and then after the Seniors graduated it felt like they all became catchphrase-spewing cutouts. Then Meteor's story arc ended with a fizzle due to a reveal that tied a bunch of plots together in a slapdash, thrown together sort of way that was unsatisfying. Now, if I had to deal with watching the episodes in a more compressed fashion and where I wasn't enjoying Sentai alongside it I can see not enjoying the show as much.
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Cliff Racer posted:Oh, also [Kuuga] wasn't filmed in HD, if that bothers you sorry, but it is what it is. It was actually shot in HD (1080i, same as Hibiki), but edited in an SD letterbox. And the final episode masters were output to analog tape, which buries the already small image under a layer of mud (the Kuuga Special Edition, which was edited and output digitally, while still letterboxed looks MUCH better). Now, the entire reason Toei shot Kuuga in HD was so that they could go back and re-edit the whole thin in HD at some point in the future Star Trek: The Next Generation style. Hopefully they'll do that soon. (Now, Agito-Blade? Those were shot in SD)
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Potsticker posted:You know, thinking about it, this sort of sentiment is probably from watching it weekly. Though, it was aired opposite the last half of Gokaiger and the first half of Go-Busters which were both really good. Compared to those, Fourze wasn't nearly as entertaining, but Gentarou was really good in the protagonist role and the suits were really good. On the negative side Fourze's supporting cast dragged things down a little. In the beginning it took way too many episodes to introduce them all because each one had their own 2-episode arc, and then after the Seniors graduated it felt like they all became catchphrase-spewing cutouts. Then Meteor's story arc ended with a fizzle due to a reveal that tied a bunch of plots together in a slapdash, thrown together sort of way that was unsatisfying. I watched Fourze in a week long binge. It's pretty good like that and I can see how it would get annoying if it was that for a year. It's got a momentum that's strong but can't survive a year. Pretty much, watch Fourze if you want a combination of Kamen Rider and Breakfast Club/Saved by the Bell.
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Cliff Racer posted:Can't comment on Amazon as I haven't seen it. The other big one people tend to recommend, though he wasn't on your list, is Kabuto. I've never seen it but ehh, its probably good. Kabuto is kinda terrible, and nearly put me off rider as a whole. Mind, the suits are great, there's fantastic food porn, and the absurdity of it all is hilarious, so it can be rather enjoyable, but the Mary Sue main coupled with nonstop easily avoidable drama bog it all down, and resulted in me abandoning the series. While a large portion of the thread seemed to echo this, it was also heavily reccomended to me off SA, so  e: removed redundancy. everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jan 13, 2014 |
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jonjonaug posted:After watching this thing here, here are the other Rider shows I'm interested in from the concept and the designs: Amazon, Kuuga, G (holy poo poo that belt), W, OOO, and Fourze. Black's henshin is one of my favorites in there but I've already watched it. It looks like I've lucked out and all the ones I'm interested in have options other than TV-Nihon so that's cool too. I haven't finished Kuuga yet, but from what I've watched it's really good. It keeps you on the edge of your seat, the plot is quite a bit darker than I expected, and the non-Rider cast (Ichijou, Sakurako) are likable. My only problem with Kuuga is Kuuga himself, while not nearly Tendou-level, I find him a bit too perfect for my taste. G is great and you should watch it. There's little to say, it's short, to the point, and really drat good. Plus wine. W was considered a return to form for Rider after a bunch of unsatisfying series and there are very good reasons for it. The cast is likable, it doesn't have Inoue's horrible tendencies (let's ignore each other and just beat the crap out of each other because talking is apparently too hard!), the writing is solid, and the Riders' own abilities are so bizarre at times, they get you to smile. Plus that bitchin' scarf. My only problem with W is how forced the comedy feels at times, but it's a minor complaint, W is great and definitely a must-watch. OOO...is pretty love it or hate it, but I'm definitely on the love it side. It's a Kobayashi series, with all the Kobayashi strengths (incredibly well-developed enemies, excellent main cast, a plot that's deeper than you expect at first), but shows Kobayashi's flaws more than any other series I've watched (holy poo poo is the middle portion slow). Watch it, but ask a person who knows of the series what episodes you can skip, it'll make the experience far more enjoyable. Fourze is...different. The plot is rather weak, for one. Nonetheless, the quirky main cast, cool villains and incredibly hot blooded action make the show, and it's a blast to watch. It's not an intelligent or deep show nor it tries to be, it's as close to a generic shonen anime Kamen Rider's gotten but holy poo poo is it fun. Nakashima's writing shines, he knows how to make super hot blooded heroes that just make you shout their catchphrases with them and Gentarou is the very definition of this. If you're trying to go for a serious, hard story, watch any of the previously mentioned series. If you just want something goddamn FUN, watch Fourze. Though I'd recommend watching Fourze after OOO, because then you can watch Megamax in order and Megamax is awesome.
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Potsticker posted:W has a bit of a plot hiccup midway through, What's this referring to? I remember W's plot being pretty consistently good the whole way through.
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It was Wakana turning evil which didn't make a lot of sense and tossed her character development.
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everythingWasBees posted:Kabuto is kinda terrible, and nearly put me off rider as a whole. Mind, the suits are great, there's fantastic food porn, and the absurdity of it all is hilarious, so it can be rather enjoyable, but the Mary Sue main coupled with nonstop easily avoidable drama bog it all down, and resulted in me abandoning the series. While a large portion of the thread seemed to echo this, it was also heavily reccomended to me off SA, so Kabuto seems to be a very like/hate kind of show. Most people I've seen who like Kabuto (which isn't many) don't love it, and everyone else is severely put off by Tendou and/or Hiyori. It was my first Rider/tokusatsu show and the only one I could tolerate watching until I got used to toku's brand of goofiness, and I was coming right off Korean dramas, which are utterly unbearable with the "nonstop easily avoidable drama" problem in addition to having painfully incompetent and ridiculously stupid lead characters, so Kabuto and Tendou were a breath of fresh air for me. But I would have no idea how to recommend it to anyone given that there's so much in it that could easily turn people off.
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Apollove posted:Holy poo poo I'm in love  Old toku is something that always gets me. Every time it seems like it can't get any better, it does.
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I downloaded all of Sun Vulcan from Gao Soul Forever recently. I've heard it's an absolute treat to go through.
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When it comes to OOO's I'm of the opinion that you should watch up till Shauta(the all blue form) debuts and then you can safely skip to the last two episodes, because the only things you need to know that happen between those points is; Eiji gets a purple dinosaur form that breaks his other medals and is turning him into a Greeed and Dr Maki has some of the purple medals and has become a Greeed(and that a pair of jackass pterodactyl Yummies pointlessly grim-derped the show by killing a bunch of people), that Ankh had his primary medal cracked, which is slowly killing him, and that there are two Birth suits now
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Mister Olympus posted:
Which series is this from?
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Mister Olympus posted:
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melodicwaffle posted:Kabuto seems to be a very like/hate kind of show. Most people I've seen who like Kabuto (which isn't many) don't love it, and everyone else is severely put off by Tendou and/or Hiyori. It was my first Rider/tokusatsu show and the only one I could tolerate watching until I got used to toku's brand of goofiness, and I was coming right off Korean dramas, which are utterly unbearable with the "nonstop easily avoidable drama" problem in addition to having painfully incompetent and ridiculously stupid lead characters, so Kabuto and Tendou were a breath of fresh air for me. I would really love to watch Kabuto but I want to actually know what people are saying, and not just what the words mean. Scratchman Apoo posted:I downloaded all of Sun Vulcan from Gao Soul Forever recently. I've heard it's an absolute treat to go through. The talking dog in the first episode makes me laugh uncontrollably every single time.
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drrockso20 posted:When it comes to OOO's I'm of the opinion that you should watch up till Shauta(the all blue form) debuts and then you can safely skip to the last two episodes, because the only things you need to know that happen between those points is; Eiji gets a purple dinosaur form that breaks his other medals and is turning him into a Greeed and Dr Maki has some of the purple medals and has become a Greeed(and that a pair of jackass pterodactyl Yummies pointlessly grim-derped the show by killing a bunch of people), that Ankh had his primary medal cracked, which is slowly killing him, and that there are two Birth suits now I don't agree with this. While the story does slow at this point, there are important character building parts in between Eiji and Ankh and the Greeed slowly turning on each other makes the villains far more then one note "Let's send a monster out and hope for the best" that a lot of other toku tend to do.
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HKR posted:I don't agree with this. While the story does slow at this point, there are important character building parts in between Eiji and Ankh and the Greeed slowly turning on each other makes the villains far more then one note "Let's send a monster out and hope for the best" that a lot of other toku tend to do. Plus you spend a lot of the time wonder what exactly Cake Boss is up to and whether or not he's a helpful presence or an antagonistic one. Sure he turns out on the up and up, but for like 40 episodes you're constantly questioning whether or not Eiji can trust this crazy rich guy.
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jonjonaug posted:After watching this thing here, here are the other Rider shows I'm interested in from the concept and the designs: Amazon, Kuuga, G (holy poo poo that belt), W, OOO, and Fourze. Black's henshin is one of my favorites in there but I've already watched it. It looks like I've lucked out and all the ones I'm interested in have options other than TV-Nihon so that's cool too. From oldest to newest: Amazon is a pretty great show that has a lot of trademark old toku cheesiness (foam blood) but is very different from any other Rider to come before and after it. That's not to say it isn't fun, mind, but if you have a very ingrained idea of what Rider is versus what it isn't, you'll probably be put off. (As I recall, Amazon's original actor thought he had killed Kamen Rider with his performance and was shocked when he came out of seclusion like 20 years later to find that not only was it still going strong, but that people loved Amazon.) Kuuga is a slow-burn cop drama that plays out more like a Showa show than a Heisei show, and is the last thing Ishinomori worked on before his death. It also features the only actual helicopter in Rider history, and is a relatively brutal show. It takes itself pretty seriously, but is amazing and the fact that we still don't have an HD remaster of it is a drat shame. W is amazingly solid, but I personally have problems with the fact that the main villains' objectively nebulous goal doesn't really go much of anywhere (nor do we really learn what it is, and when we do, it means about three different things depending on who you ask.) There's some dropped characterization in the form of Akiko, and has a few flaws with the 2-episode format already apparent (the villain got away near the end of the episode, so we'll just catch him next week!) BEyond that, I would say the middle section involving Weather is fantastic, and it ramps up into an enjoyable end. OOO is what you get when you sort of marry the thematics of Kuuga and Blade together, with all the pacing problems of both. OOO has two speeds. "Incredibly Slow" and "JESUS loving CHRIST". It's got a very entertaining supporting cast, and some of the best secondary riders, but it takes about 30 episodes to get its momentum built up, but at that point it gets definitively insane in the best way. Fourze is what happened when you let Gurren Lagann's head writer write Persona 4 and is about as fun as you'd expect that to be. The characters eventually get a little degraded near the end (a side-effect of multiple writers), but their intros are all solid, and the cast carries the show, even though it's light on plot. I wouldn't say it goes nowhere, but its definitely not the focus. It's a lot better as a binge watch, as it has a very strong week to week momentum. While Meteor does kind of slow things down for a while, he's not necessarily bad, and grows into his own soon enough. Fourze is probably one of my favorite Rider shows, just from how much fun it brings to the table.
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Dexie posted:Which series is this from? V3. V3 is the loving best.
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My favorite part of Fourze is still (ending spoilers) how they never show the people on the station getting back to earth. "And eventually they were rescued by...oh, let's say, Moe."
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e: Nevermind, I'm dumb.
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Monathin posted:It also features the only actual helicopter in Rider history, In Double A-Z, Eternal blows up a helicopter with that american guy in it who says KAMEN RIDER in a really matter-of-factly voice.
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There was a helicopter in G too but I'm not sure if that counts. I'm on my fourth episode of Amazon right now. It's pretty good so far, I like how the monsters don't explode.
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HKR posted:Just be warned, when Meteor gets introduced it kinda drags Fourze down for a while and his plotline is incredibly stupid. Meteor's story goes on for several episodes but is barely prominent enough in most of those episodes to become remotely tiring. Especially considering it isn't exactly edging out any other subplots at the time. I've really only ever seen this sentiment in this thread and I have to assume it's a result of watching it weekly, making Meteor feel way more like he's monopolizing the plot for like two or three months. Raizor fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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Raizor posted:Meteor's story goes on for several episodes but is barely prominent enough in most of those episodes to become remotely tiring. Especially considering it isn't exactly edging out any other subplots at the time. I've really only ever seen this sentiment in this thread and I have to assume it's a result of watching it weekly, making Meteor feel way more like he's monopolizing the plot for like two or three months. I dunno, I watched it after it had ended and I definitely felt the Meteor stuff dragged on longer than it needed to. I absolutely love Fourze but it has giant pacing problems and 8-10 episodes all about Meteor in the middle there really did not help matters.
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MOTORCYCLE BLUEPRINTS FROM THE JUNGLE OK this show is pretty drat neat.
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Raizor posted:Meteor's story goes on for several episodes but is barely prominent enough in most of those episodes to become remotely tiring. Especially considering it isn't exactly edging out any other subplots at the time. I've really only ever seen this sentiment in this thread and I have to assume it's a result of watching it weekly, making Meteor feel way more like he's monopolizing the plot for like two or three months. This is the exact opposite of the way I felt. Meteor took over the show and rendered it nearly unwatchable. I've also seen it brought up plenty of places and it doesn't seem like an uncommon sentiment. Meteor's plot was just bad. It was redoing Accel's plot but much more tediously, right down to Whoops, turns out my masked mentor who is urging me down the dark path is actually one of the villain faction all along. I mostly enjoyed Fourze but almost everything with Meteor was a big misstep. Which is unfortunate because he can be a fun character on his own. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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