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At approximately 11:30am - 12:00pm GMT today, a hacker was able to exploit a security hole in my game and withdraw 0.4 BTC, which was the entire hot-wallet contents. He withdrew to this address: 16pknxjJF8yhL2iBPmXRw4rcoGhFYmGcoy Transactions: -snip- He used the aliases: 1gld,16p,x,y His attack was to use negative numbers for the BTC fields when creating a new game in blockchain-reaction, although these were checked for client-side, the server failed to do the correct validation. I feel pretty stupid since that's an obvious attack and I'm usually really careful with this stuff, but it just slipped under the radar. Obviously this is now fixed. I have covered this loss from my own personal bitcoin wallet, so no users will be affected. If you are the attacker and you are reading this, please consider returning these stolen coins, I have a suspicion you are a fellow developer / programmer, so please have a heart. Cheers, Paul.
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Robawesome posted:At approximately 11:30am - 12:00pm GMT today, a hacker was able to exploit a security hole in my game and withdraw 0.4 BTC, which was the entire hot-wallet contents. can somebody find that 'have a heart, kevin' post again
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transfatphobic posted:QR codes are a public key address guys this is bitcoin 101 which you don't need to read to accept. the buyer has to scan the seller's. adding read capability to a POS system has a million goofy internal reasons (bring this mailer for 0.5% off!!), but accepting bitcoins is not helped by this change
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Robawesome posted:i lost much more , much more. I bought when bitcoin was 1050 cause i waited to much and at that time it seemed it was going up, and exactely in that time there was the epic dump. I waited a bit, then when i saw price going under 700 i had to sell, i simply could not bear a bigger loss. BUt bitcoin recovered slowly so i made wrong decision. I decided to enter another time to get some money back and i was newly unlucky. Ok i should have hold. But i am not a long term investor, i do not give trust to bitcoin, to me is a temporary bubble and could end from a moment to the other and value go back to 10. This is cause i sold so fast. Totally i lost about 4-5000 euroes of 8000 euroes invested in 2 attempts, i tried cause all my friends were doing some money with bitcoin and convinced me, at last. So i tried to do the same, after being what i supposed to be well informed. I did my bitstamp account and bought. I was unlucky. It was maybe the worst moment of all year, almost. And even this second time, wrong moment. I will invest nothing on bitcoin or in other financial assets for all my life. I am a 25 yo italian boy and i am a father since 3 years ago, i have a little girl to breed and an uncertain job which gives me simply enough to eat and nothing more, and i am even trying to continue studying, even though is very difficult to find time.
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To be clear, for Best Buy to accept Bitcoin, they'd need to display a QR code for phones to scan. Something any display that isn't total poo poo could do. Scanning a QR code is only done when sending bitcoins.
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api call girl posted:you still wouldn't accept bitcoins by scanning somebody else's qr code, so no yeah i'm dumb AlbieQuirky posted:Try Storify.com both storify and tweetdeck want you to manually add every tweet to the story/timeline, there's no way (that i can find) to pull in a whole conversation and edit it using either tool i'm just giving up, twitter sucks, i'll cope
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really lolin at the idea of bit coiners doing their shopping at loving BEST BUY
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:really lolin at the idea of bit coiners doing their shopping at loving BEST BUY
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:really lolin at the idea of bit coiners doing their shopping at loving BEST BUY they do shop at overstock.com so...
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anthonypants posted:i looked through that guy's timeline and i can't find any new tweets, so maybe they got deleted he hasn't responded to me since i did the effortposting, i'm assuming that he doesn't want to talk to anybody who knows anything at all, conmen usually don't anyway this is the conversation starting with my original tweet, but when you look at that url it's missing this tweet and some of the conversation around it in fact that latter url pulls in the entire conversation between andreas and me, before and after, it's just linking to my original post that makes things go haywire. i have no idea what criteria twitter is using to pull in tweets when showing a particular url
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anthonypants posted:i looked through that guy's timeline and i can't find any new tweets, so maybe they got deleted he does delete tweets a couple weeks ago he got super mad about some dumb thing and made an rear end of himself in a twitter fight and then went back and cleaned up the mess
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bitcoiners are mad about the localbitcoins thing [–]chalash 55 points 4 hours ago (66|11) This is a big deal. Money transmission BEFORE a crime has occurred is now being treated as money laundering, which was previously the obfuscation of money sources AFTER a crime has occurred. [–]goonsack 10 points 4 hours ago (18|7) You're goddamned right. It's really concerning how these statutes are being stretched. The Charlie Shrem case being a perfect exemplar. Not sure if this Florida case is directly comparable though. It sounds as if these guys are charged with violating AML reporting statutes, and MSB laws, rather than being charged with money laundering itself (like Charlie was)? [–]diglig 13 points 5 hours ago (17|6) WTF? So you can't sell your own bitcoins now?? What's going on here. [–]nomminommi 14 points 5 hours ago (20|6) It was a trap. The undercovers told that they want to buy stolen credit cards and they still got the BTC from the seller + they were over the limit where they have to register as moneytransmitter (20k $ a year or whatever depends on location I guess)... So don't do those 2 things and you should be fine -_-  violating the law is a crime?! but we don't like that law!
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killhamster posted:he does delete tweets so far he hasn't deleted any of his conversation with me, he just came back and is ignoring it
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Fiat money has value because the governments said so. Bitcoin has value because people say so. (self.Bitcoin) submitted 11 hours ago by gabridome Governments banning bitcoins are building a wall between them and the people of their country who wants to share with the people of the rest of the world something that can change their life. Democracies are for bitcoin. Dictatorships are against it. "You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one" [–]usthing 1 point 2 hours ago* Semantics. Some people make every system and impose it on the rest via coercion of some sort. It's called leadership and organization. Disagreeing with the leader is a bad idea unless you can kick his rear end or do something better so that everyone else stops kicking rear end for him, or ends up kicking his rear end instead. -Democracy: The majority tells everyone what to do, and is usually in the minorities' worst interest. -Republic: Everyone picks a few leaders and they tell everyone what to do in everyone's best interest. -Anarchism: The scariest dudes tell everyone what they should do, and they can either leave or join. -Communism: Everyone does whatever the hell they want, but good luck getting anything done. -Feudalism and monarchy: The strongest family takes all the land and lets you live on it for services and money. -Fascism: The nation gives some scary dudes their total loyalty in order to make their country better. Actually a lot like anarchy if anarchists had a sense of national pride. -Tribalism: The oldest people are allowed to control what the tribe does for the betterment of the tribe. -Meritocracy: The most successful people control the rest. -Bitcoin: The technological or "intellectual" early adopters dictate prices by controlling supply and demand for all of bitcoin. [–]Rassah 11 points 7 hours ago I like Fiat is backed by men with guns, Bitcoin is backed by men with brains. more. [–]asherp 2 points 2 hours ago I was referring to the people I know who fully support the Fed's policies. One of my friends chooses not to use bitcoin on moral grounds, because it shields people from the Fed's benevolent policies. Many people believe the economy would collapse if not for the good intentions of a few people in power. There are cultists everywhere, my friend. [–]WhyAmISuchAJerk 5 points 9 hours ago It's not because they merely say so. It is because they demand payment in a specific currency, using the threat of violence. The value of fiat currency comes from demand produced by taxation. [–]WhyAmISuchAJerk 6 points 7 hours ago Lots of people use and accept USD who are under no obligation to do so. That would not happen without powerful sinks creating demand. At any rate, we're agreed that it's the threat of violence that ultimately creates demand. I think we should say thay rather than let it be implied by a euphemism like "says so." It isn't words or legislation, it's brutal men with weapons. [–]EcstaticShock 10 points 7 hours ago Stop paying your property tax, and all of your questions will be answered. Armed men will literally force entry to your home and remove you from it. [–]WhyAmISuchAJerk 1 point 1 hour ago If there were no threat of violence, most people would not heed the demands of the state. Taxes are collected by men with guns. Likewise, laws that say one must accept a specific currency are enforced with violence. [–]waxwing 2 points 2 hours ago The US dollar is accepted outside the US because of its utility in world trade. That utility is a direct result of threats of violence against nation states, and to a lesser extent, against US citizens refusing to pay taxes. The causation is not that difficult to trace. [–]i_wolf 2 points 5 hours ago Democracy is a movement from monarchy towards anarchy. The direction is right, but we need to go further. [–]dkmdlb -1 points 5 hours ago Don't you agree that democracy sucks? [–]Rism -1 points 3 hours ago* Requiring a solution has no bearing on the validity of an argument. Ill tell you why democrazy sucks. I have the right to vote. I vote that it should be illegal to grow cannabis. The law is passed. Now by decree of "the law" authorities have the legal right to enact violence upon people growing cannabis. Therefore the mere act of voting condones predation against my fellow man. Democracy is nothing more than mob rule with the use of violence to enforce arbitrary law. [–]Rism 1 point 2 hours ago "Laws are only enforced with violence if people don't comply or go quietly. It's not like you get beatup for not paying your taxes immediately." Is this not the definition of slavery or abuse then? "Do what i say or i will use violence to make you do what i say." Why should i be forced to comply with a violent institution? How is this not the same as abusing a woman if she isnt acting how you want her to act? "Yes. But the consequences aren't always violent." Unless of course you choose not to comply and in that case refer to my answer above about abusive relationships. Are you saying we should just comply with violence and then it will stop violence? "Punishment isn't something exclusive to democracy, that's something all forms of government seem to share, and historically, monarchy, dictatorships, and communism have been far worse when it comes to punishment." Punishment is exclusive to any person or institution who believes they are an authority and their decree must be followed. If you refuse to follow it you are met with coercion and eventually violence. This is why man has no right to rule other men, because man himself is imperfect. [–]MeanOfPhidias 4 points 7 hours ago It doesn't matter where I live. Democracies are failures [–]MeanOfPhidias -1 points 4 hours ago Inherently. There is absolutely nothing laudable about democracy. It is systemic corruption. [–]MeanOfPhidias -1 points 4 hours ago Nope, it's definitely democracy. It anything, democracy breeds stupidity and laziness. [–]bitcoinsammy 0 points 7 hours ago Unfortunetely, government is just a word that means powerful people. [–]kisstheblarney 1 point 6 hours ago* They are powerful because people have been systematically domesticated by a hegemonic institution that uses its monopoly on violence to force people to take money it prints out of thin air [–]ModernDemagogue 1 point 5 hours ago Because voluntary democracy is nonsensical when you think about what the social contract actually means. Participation in the social contract must be obligatory, or you must be put outside of the arena and unable to interact with those who choose to participate. [–]Rism 1 point 3 hours ago Just like religion, if children aren't indoctrinated at birth there is no way they would buy into the concept. [–]Rism 2 points 5 hours ago Do you understand the implications of democracy as a means to legitimize violence against the populace? [–]Rism 1 point 4 hours ago* That is because the concept of government is inherently to limit and control people, the only way to do this is through coercion. Ultimately this is not a possibility as an attempt to control humans is an attempt to control nature. This is also why revolution becomes common place. Man has no right to rule over other men, few man are even fit to rule over themselves. The problem is institutionalized and legitimized violence of the state. [–]Rism 1 point 4 hours ago "What the hell do you think happens when there's no one to tell these roaming bands of idiots to not kill and rape people while stealing their stuff and destroying everything in their path?" This is exactly what most government do. There is no way to know what life "would have" been like without sociopaths telling people what to do. However with the advent of internet and decentralized institutions its time to loving evolve beyond allowing the state to have a monopoly of violence. Violence is still violence no matter who does it and when government does it they get the backing of billions in tax payer dollars. Why do you trust violence so much? [–]Rism 1 point 4 hours ago* The difference is your arguments are theoretical. Full of ifs and maybe and could of been. My argument simply states that coercion and violence is unethical no matter what form it is. You seem to think violence is bad unless it is institutionalized government performing the violence. Why do you think the world has been going through these cycles of revolution and democracy? Do you suppose it may be because that paradigm doesnt work. You speak about following the rule of law, yet fail to realize that when power is centralized so is enforcement of these laws. Your fundamental arguments are wrong, government does not maintain order, it selectively enforces it. We have more man made destruction of the earth than ever before in history and its because government selectively enforces laws against corporations. Governments become corrupt because government are run by humans and humans are imperfect. You cannot say humans are the problem then offer government as a solution because the government is nothing but a group of humans. Do you understand this illogical thought process? Again i ask, why do you trust violence so much?
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quote:I bought $100 worth of bitcoin from MtGox to buy some weed on SilkRoad a couple of years ago. Now they're worth $10k, but MtGox won't let me cash out, and SilkRoad no longer exists. I only wanted to get stoned, not become a international money launderer. (self.firstworldproblems) yes i asked him why he couldn't find a weed hookup because hahahaha loser quote:[–]JacobShanee 24 points 7 hours ago
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Somehow Andreas Antonopoulos has become a blogger at BoingBoingquote:Apple yanks last remaining bitcoin wallet quote:Apple’s walled garden has always been touted as a means to ensure a safe and high quality, consistent experience for its users. The blockchain app had built a solid user base with more than 120,000 downloads and high ratings over two years. Apple had offered no warning or expressed any concern over the safety or quality of the application. Rather, it seems to have simply missed the application in its review process and just belatedly decided to drop the hammer once it was noticed. quote:Bitcoin is still a niche fad among geeks, but the underlying technology that made it possible is creating a revolution in de-centralized finance that is unleashing a tsunami of pent-up innovation. quote:Standing alone, in the guard shack at the entrance to its walled garden of applications, the world rushing by too fast for comfort, Apple may find that the role of the gatekeeper of innovation is a very lonely one indeed.
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Why I want to be 100% Bitcoin as a small merchant. (self.Bitcoin) submitted 10 hours ago* by Aylorian [blah blah chargebacks blah] [–]MuForceShoelace 12 points 5 hours ago Oh boy, as a merchant I can't wait till there is no consumer protections of any kind! [–]iamatworktho 1 point 5 hours ago I know! It's like people dont have to be responsible for their own financial purchases! [–]MuForceShoelace 4 points 4 hours ago Using money that has recourse for fraud IS being responsible. Of course the businesses want a system that consumers have no recourse at all. [–]physalisx 5 points 4 hours ago* Of course consumers want a system where they can exploit businesses. Oh and scammers and fraudsters, they really love that too! Having fraud protection on the sellers side makes A LOT more sense. Businesses depend on reputation, they can't scam continuesly without it becoming public very fast. Consumers (hackers, identify thieves) on the other hand can scam one business after the other and businesses can't even do anything to protect themselves since privacy rules forbid them from sharing reputation data about their customers (which on its own is a good thing of course) Also, this: Using money that has recourse for fraud The money you're talking about doesn't have anything like that either. Only other services have that that use that money. And exactly the same COULD be done for crypto. [–]iamatworktho 0 points 4 hours ago Yes, there is always the possibility of fraud and fraud is usually pretty easy to detect. When somebody signs up for something and doesnt read what they are purchasing or just out right forgets about it and wants their money back from 6 months ago, is the consumers fault and the merchant can not be blamed. Although if the consumer complains enough, they'll get their $50 dollars back and the merchant is left paying fees. [–]MuForceShoelace 2 points 4 hours ago And what about when the merchant CAN be blamed? [–]iamatworktho 2 points 4 hours ago If it happens continually and is clearly the merchants fault for negligence or failure to communicate with the customer or false advertisement, the company will go under very quick and have a poo poo reputation. Personally, I think, there should be laws that regulate products or services and identify if they are doing what they say they will and providing what they say they will. However, if the consumer is negligent and doesnt read the disclaimers about a product or service, it is their own fault. ProTip: You dont need to read the entire Terms of Use, just the billing section and the disclaimer. [–]MuForceShoelace 5 points 4 hours ago I never get the libertarian "it'll go under" answer. Like, great, it'll go out of business AFTER it's cheated people? How does that help anyone any at all? "I just lost 600 dollars but it's okay because this place could possibly go out of business eventually" isn't really as comforting as getting the 600 dollars back would be for most people. [–]Metagen 2 points 3 hours ago you just want to stick your losses to someone else just dont give some random never heard before guy 600$ and you will be fine [–]MuForceShoelace 1 point 2 hours ago So in the bitcoin world there would just never ever be new businesses? because you can't do business except with established ones? [–]Metagen 0 points 1 hour ago they would have to create an incentive for buyers to make a leap of faith and trust them [–]iamatworktho -1 points 3 hours ago Accidents happen all the time. I completely understand that something like that is devastating and I wish things like that could be completely avoided. Unfortunately that is just not realistic. Banks can only get so much of someones money back, and because people know all they have to do is say the words 'fraud,' 'BBB,' 'Attorney General,' they abuse the system and it cost more money than it should and only makes banks profit. Its hard to find a system that works for everyone. [–]Metagen 0 points 3 hours ago then the merchant wont be in business for very long i dont see the problem all this "consumer protection" acomplishes is hurting small business and helping the big boys since they can stomache a few fraudulent buyers but not your small stores that you will miss dearly when at&t for example shits on your head because they are the only ones in town left [–]Migratory_Coconut 0 points 2 hours ago I don't think there will be too many such scams. It just takes some consumer smarts. There will be escrow services like paypall that have merchants give their identity. So if you don't trust the seller you don't buy from them unless they're registered with an escrow service you can use.
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So you guys are just going to have to loving trust me on this one http://www.goatse.cx/ JadeRaven fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 8, 2014 |
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JadeRaven posted:So you guys are just going to have to loving trust me on this one Robawesome posted:it's been a busy day. did anybody post in this thread about undercover cops busting people selling butts on localbitcoins? because that happened
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JadeRaven posted:So you guys are just going to have to loving trust me on this one holy balls
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oh hello bitcoin thread these 300 posts were good while bitcoin falls, threadcoin has increased in pages, coincidence? i think not
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anthonypants posted:why do these people think that 120k ios downloads after 24 months isn't an incredibly tiny fraction because everybody who posts on or reads boingboing is a moron.
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JadeRaven posted:So you guys are just going to have to loving trust me on this one oh my loving god
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