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Chair Huxtable
Dec 27, 2004

Heavens me, just look at the time


kru posted:

Post in the Singapore thread about it!!!

Why does Singapore have their own thread? Ours isn't expensive enough for them? Don't they drink to excess and sleep in the streets, too?

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kenner116
May 15, 2009
The mountains of northern Luzon were great. Sagada and Banaue/Batad have redeemed the Philippines for me. I'm at Ninoy Aquino Terminal 3 now and reported last week's incident with the taxi driver to the airport police. The policeman was very friendly and even offered to find me a couple of Pinay girlfriends, since apparently they like "tall and handsome men".

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Chair Huxtable posted:

Why does Singapore have their own thread? Ours isn't expensive enough for them? Don't they drink to excess and sleep in the streets, too?
I think it's symbolic that no one notices it except Singaporeans and expats unless they're traveling through on business.

pogologism
May 11, 2007
Est.1885
If anyone finds themselves in Penang some time in the next month (possibly longer), send me a message or announce your plans here. I just started a job at a new party hostel that is already ranked #1 on TripAdvisor. Mostly dorm beds for rm25-30 but there's 3 private rooms as well. Cheapest beer around and can get a goon discount on the already cheap rate.
If you're looking for somewhere to go in Malaysia and you enjoy partying, the best food, and staying up late, this is your place. I've been having a loving blast here so far.

Looking at you, kru.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

kenner116 posted:

The mountains of northern Luzon were great. Sagada and Banaue/Batad have redeemed the Philippines for me. I'm at Ninoy Aquino Terminal 3 now and reported last week's incident with the taxi driver to the airport police. The policeman was very friendly and even offered to find me a couple of Pinay girlfriends, since apparently they like "tall and handsome men".

Glad you enjoyed your stay despite a lovely start! :)

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

pogologism posted:

If anyone finds themselves in Penang some time in the next month (possibly longer)

Hey world of coincidence. I'm going to be in Penang this weekend with a lady friend. We've already got accomodation booked (and she's more into hotels than hostels, sadly as I think they can be great fun). Be getting in late Friday night and heading off Sunday afternoon, so far have put together a list of eateries to try from EatAsia blog, Bourdain and Time Out but if you're got any recommendations that would be awesome. I don't have PMs but you can email me at nowher3man at gmail.com Would be cool to grab a drink Saturday or maybe even Friday if we can get ourselves organised. We're staying in a hotel in George Town.

Also she was looking for some sort of cool, colonial-era looking bar if you know of any?

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Chair Huxtable posted:

Why does Singapore have their own thread? Ours isn't expensive enough for them? Don't they drink to excess and sleep in the streets, too?
Hey, if we want to go on a bender we just catch a cheap bus to Malaysia or a cheap flight to BKK...

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Life in the suburbs right there!

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Moonbase Asia reigns supreme!

creamyhorror
Mar 11, 2006
the incredible adventures of superworm across America

kru posted:

Moonbase Asia reigns supreme!
Liking this name right here. Seriously though I need to visit Penang or Georgetown sometime, hear they've been getting hip an' poo poo.

Chair Huxtable
Dec 27, 2004

Heavens me, just look at the time


Gail Wynand posted:

Hey, if we want to go on a bender we just catch a cheap bus to Malaysia or a cheap flight to BKK...

Pfft. You're the SE Asia equivalent of the bridge and tunnel crew.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Chair Huxtable posted:

Pfft. You're the SE Asia equivalent of the bridge and tunnel crew.

Tell it to the relevant government institution

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
We'd like to, but as you know we only have one relevant government institution and we're not allowed to tell them things.

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

It's kind of like the bridge and tunnel crowd, except we make 3 times as much as the locals and have real jobs.

Anyway mainlanders do better at the "bad manners and ugly bling" aspect..

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
It's more like the relationship between every major city in America and New Orleans. Yeah, you guys have nicer cities and things work well and your kids look like J. Crew models and there's a simulacrum of fun among the mechanical birds and singing rocks, but we all know where you go when you want to have real fun, before flying back home to where it's safe and you don't have to dodge motorbikes on the sidewalks.

Meanwhile, we'll be having fun. EVERY. DAY.

EDIT: Sadly we did not get NOLA's fantastic music culture. Quite the opposite :(

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Feb 11, 2014

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

kru posted:

Tell it to the relevant government institution
This is the thing you do when you give the policeman money, right?

creamyhorror
Mar 11, 2006
the incredible adventures of superworm across America

Gail Wynand posted:

It's kind of like the bridge and tunnel crowd, except we make 3 times as much as the locals and have real jobs.
Hey now, I have a real job at least :smith:

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

This is the thing you do when you give the policeman money, right?
Frankly, we're much better at corruption here than in most of the neighboring countries. Thai cops will actually give you change on your bribes.

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
Today I almost crashed my motorbike because I was staring at pretty girls walking down the street.

I heard in Singapore you get caned/whipped/shot for staring at pretty girls, confirm/deny?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
pretty girls in s'pore 555

kru
Oct 5, 2003

ReindeerF posted:

pretty girls in s'pore 555

Hard to get a bum hose though

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

This is the thing you do when you give the policeman money, right?

Back in Kuala Lumpur, today I got my car towed because I thought running down to grab a couple of stuff for 10 minutes shouldn't be a problem. Ha ha.

The fine is meant to be RM 150 but they added another RM 100 for "towing charges". Then they added another RM 50 because I needed to make a statutory declaration the car is mine, and then another RM 50 because "we could technically start taking things from your car and we were nice enough not to, so pay us our Nice Fees."

ReindeerF posted:

Frankly, we're much better at corruption here than in most of the neighboring countries. Thai cops will actually give you change on your bribes.

I wish we had Thai cops.

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

duckmaster posted:

Today I almost crashed my motorbike because I was staring at pretty girls walking down the street.

I heard in Singapore you get caned/whipped/shot for staring at pretty girls, confirm/deny?
Nope just shamed on the internet:

http://therealsingapore.com/content/dear-trs-my-daughter-harassed-huge-mob-foreign-workers-siloso-beach

Excuse me while I pour out some potable tap water in commemoration of everyone's plights with corruption.

Soy Division fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Feb 11, 2014

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Can someone go do this in Ubon please and see if it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMDBjjD3M1o

kru
Oct 5, 2003

I'd actually rather be in Thailand, admitting it now. With the same job obviously.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Gail Wynand posted:

Excuse me while I pour out some potable tap water in commemoration of everyone's plights with corruption.
Haha, touche. Counterpoint, NEWater.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Can someone go do this in Ubon please and see if it works:
Oh man, loving lol. I mean that's horribly mean, but still funny. And you know they've done that about 25 times before thinking to film it.

EDIT: I actually loving lol'd at both of these posts.

B-Rad
Aug 8, 2006
Any Thailand veterans want to weigh in on the property market in Bangkok/Chiang Mai? I'd like to buy a small flat in BKK near one of the new Airport link stations or somewhere affordable as an investment/income property but I'm worried about the King dying and the political situation so I thought I'd wait. I know the ASEAN summit is coming up, which might increase prices.


Bad/good idea?

I know Chiang Mai is ridiculously oversupplied, but also very cheap. You can get a nice second-hand condo for next to nothing. It seems rich Thais only want to buy off the plan and the cost per square meter is overly-inflated.

Thoughts?

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I don't actually know anything but I have listened to a lot of old gits complain about trying to buy property in Thailand. The issue usually isn't getting a condo, it seems like pretty much anyone is allowed to own one of those (literally one). Apparently the problem is if you're trying to buy land where its legally more or less impossible -- only apparently Americans are supposed to be able to own a single parcel and even then you have to expect to meet a lot of resistance at the local administrative level from various headmen and stuff. Other nationalities end up with bizzaro arrangements where they own the house but lease the land for 99 years, or create some legal fiction that they own 49% of, some Thai silent partner owns 48% of, and an actually non-extant Thai legal ghost owns 4% of (so that it's Thai owned but in the absence of the non-existing person you control), or whatever.

As far as actually buying something and my vague opinions I will say that it seems Thais cling to property the way Italians glom onto the memory of their dead sainted mother. Except in two cases. The first is if its haunted. The second is if they are wearing a Donald Trump tie and think for that particular hour or so that they're real estate moguls.

Oh also Thai people are often not thrilled about moving into used apartments and old houses because of scary ghosts. So anything new is going to have a premium attached to it more than the usual WASPy "wiring up to code" effects.

If you're looking at this just from an investment point of view why you wouldn't just wait until the big log drops and buy something right then is beyond me. Obviously most kinds of investments in SE Asia are going to be on the risky side but at least get the wind at your back first instead of straight into your face. Also I'm sure there are similarly priced bits of poo poo you could buy up there in the lovely and scenic Mainland so I'm not sure why you'd decide to spend your money a few countries over instead unless there's even more red tape up there (which would not be surprising) or you're thinking "golly gee I could buy something in Thailand as an INVESTMENT and then stay there too when I visit tee hee hee" which isn't a great idea when hotels and other temporary accommodation in Thailand is still so cheap. If you were looking at a investment/use thing (I think money people usually frown on that without other advantages built in) I personally wouldn't buy a condo in Bangkok so far from the city center. I mean, at least it's near transport, but for me it'd have to be on the other side of the river and vaguely near a BTS station to even think about it. Otherwise I wouldn't use the thing AND I'd be left with something that only Thai people would be interested in buying later which means a) now I have to sell them a HAUNTED GHOST HOUSE and b) no shot at dumb farang dollers later.

Of course if everyone else thinks the same way I do maybe the price would be really good on what you're looking at.

Edit: Basically what I'm saying is hire a Burmese ghost to haunt the place you want to buy

raton fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Feb 12, 2014

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Now's not a good time to buy investment property. The Baht is definitely weak, which is good, but the property market is in a bit of a bubble - not huge, but enough to mean you'll overpay by probably 25%. Still, if you want to do it you can PM me any numbers you get and I can give you the local read. The family owns a fair amount of property and seem to have a sixth sense about property values, heh (market-based valuations are another story).

Personally, I'd wait until you open up the paper and read about someone not being around anymore.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Feb 12, 2014

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Should I buy Thai Baht to invest for Forex or is it too volatile? I don't mind some small amount for experimental risk but that doesn't mean BITCOIN

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Invest in Thai? Buy when he die.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

caberham posted:

Should I buy Thai Baht to invest for Forex or is it too volatile? I don't mind some small amount for experimental risk but that doesn't mean BITCOIN
Kinda offtopic, but "Should I buy/do X?" when it comes to investment is a question that can never be answered. Completely up to you, and up to your desire of risk and investment horizont. Currency is generally speaking volatile, and rarely a sound, long-term investment.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Long term? No way. But enough to pay for a budget air asia ticket? Definitely worth a shot for me.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Invest in Thai? Buy when he die.

Haha good point. Maybe that will be the biggest drop then.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
It's sitting at like a five year low I think, but that's almost entirely due to international capital flow, really. Thailand's like 1% of the world economy or something, probably a bit less, absent something catastrophically stupid like running out of money supporting a pegged currency with a hyperinflated economy and starting the Asian Financial Crisis of 1997, they are hardly big enough to stab themselves in the eye. Australia's slowing down a bit and the US is slowing the flow of free money little by little, so less money's coming over here everywhere. That means a short-term buy is a lot riskier than a long-term buy, in my opinion, because the overall trend should be weaker (with fluctuations).

And, as well, there's the old X factor. Coups and all this street war stuff might account for a short-term point or two this way or that, but there's no evidence they have much of an effect and it doesn't last too long (for complex reasons). The one event that could very well have a material impact for a longer term is unpredictable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQxH_8raCI

EDIT: Disclaimer, I may be a total idiot and you should never listen to financial advice from Internet People!

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Feb 12, 2014

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Speaking of which a certain author of subversive internet articles posted a very interesting text on Facebook about what happens to the old man's worldly remains. Crazy stuff.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

caberham posted:

Long term? No way. But enough to pay for a budget air asia ticket? Definitely worth a shot for me.
Maybe it'll pay for it, maybe it'll make it twice as expensive. No one can tell, no matter how wise they claim to be, and no matter how much you analyze it. Sorry, but I can tell from your posting that "investing" in currency on a whim like this isn't something you should dive into. :) - (Edit: Unless you just want to do an alternative version of gambling at the roulette table at a casino, then feel free to go ahead with a small amount of money).

Pilsner fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 13, 2014

MothraAttack
Apr 28, 2008

Gail Wynand posted:

Speaking of which a certain author of subversive internet articles posted a very interesting text on Facebook about what happens to the old man's worldly remains. Crazy stuff.

I don't know. I found Richard Barrow's stuff on the closing Lumpini muay thai joint to be pretty boilerplate.

MothraAttack fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Feb 14, 2014

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Pilsner posted:

Maybe it'll pay for it, maybe it'll make it twice as expensive. No one can tell, no matter how wise they claim to be, and no matter how much you analyze it. Sorry, but I can tell from your posting that "investing" in currency on a whim like this isn't something you should dive into. :) - (Edit: Unless you just want to do an alternative version of gambling at the roulette table at a casino, then feel free to go ahead with a small amount of money).
Just buying Thai baht is the wrong way to speculate on this anyway, Bangkok stock exchange ETFs would be a much more sensible method.

Looks like THD, iShares MSCI Thailand Investable Market Index Fund, might be a good one.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

I'm investing in black pudding/santa hat futures atm

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Just keep an eye out on the fees and loads over here and time-based penalty clauses. They're pretty loving hilarious because it's American financial marketing wizardry against a public that's completely new to market-based investments. Basically it's a field day.

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