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...! posted:I just launched a new exchange for Gox BTC <=> Real BTC! (self.Bitcoin) can someone explain to a lazy moron like me who hasn't been paying attention to bitcoins what this means did the magic the gathering online exchange stop acknowledging other bitcoins or something
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Proteus4994 posted:essentially, what i'm saying here is that despite them being business rivals, any legislation, taxation, or whatever else that would benefit Pepsi will also benefit Coke by virtue of the fact that they make practically the exact same product I think everybody here understands that the companies would work together on things that are mutually beneficial. The quotes you're talking about are a result of a bitcoiner seeing no reason for anybody to compete with Bitcoin. quote:[–]couttsphotog 2 points 4 hours ago For even more context, he's talking about exchanges. People who don't know anything about anything
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Robawesome posted:I think everybody here understands that the companies would work together on things that are mutually beneficial. The quotes you're talking about are a result of a bitcoiner seeing no reason for anybody to compete with Bitcoin. i know i'm being spergy, but it was a bad analogy
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chmods please posted:can someone explain to a lazy moron like me who hasn't been paying attention to bitcoins what this means It's basically impossible to get bitcoins out of the magic the gathering online exchange because someone stole them all because they misimplemented the way that their exchange checks transaction IDs or something.
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:It's basically impossible to get bitcoins out of the magic the gathering online exchange because someone stole them all because they misimplemented the way that their exchange checks transaction IDs or something. if i've been following it correctly people were doublespending and mtgox was paying out twice and this was happening for a long time before mtgox caught it and they very well could literally be out of bitcoins/real money if they hosed up bad enough. nobody knows how bad it is there yet.
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Some iPhones have been demolished since the news about Blockchain, and we thought we'd add our iPad and MacBook to the pile of ashes. (youtube.com/user/ABillyRock) submitted 9 hours ago by Amanda_Billyrock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcl6BV1r3gU [–]kilorat 2 points 4 hours ago I wonder, are the same people that are offended/upset/embarassed/whatever by these the same people that don't understand why people like Dogecoin? Maybe its an age thing? I think this is awesome, and the negative reactions to people standing up to Apple continues to confound me. [–]aminok 2 points 3 hours ago It looks like the act of people who are committed to the vision of Bitcoin giving people control over their own money, and are willing to take a financial loss to make a stand for this vision. If financial interest was the motivator, people wouldn't be destroying their own electronics to make a point. To be clear, I don't agree with destroying your Apple devices to send a message. I think selling them makes more sense. [–]tamara44 3 points 7 hours ago But you are not mentioning, that for iPhone users who just needs mobile bitcoin wallet, this Apple decision will cost them quite a lot of money. For example, some people suggest, that if you don't like Apple phone, you should just buy Android phone. But what does this mean in practice? 1) You need to buy new smartphone 2) You need to research the app store for equivalent iOS apps you were using on your iPhone - that my take many hours, since you have to evaluate a lot of apps to find those you like most 3) Some Android apps are also not free, which is another investment. 4) Your iOS apps are useless, you will not get any refund for those. 5) Yes, you can sell your old iPhone device, but this do not counterbalance the first four points. From this perspective, Apple decision will cost those people money and time, and Apple not only would not apologize for that, they even do not try to explain their decision to their own customers! [–]i-want-waffles 1 point 5 hours ago* To me this is more of a message that the person won't put up with Apple anymore. Nice letters have been sent and no explanation on why any of the apps have been blocked. It is a peaceful protest and a "put your money where your mouth is" demonstration that they won't be using their products. It doesn't hurt bitcoin. No more than silk road has as for public perception. I think we survived that one and people should stop being so drat sensitive. If you are concerned about waste go protest at a demolition derby or any sporting event that wastes far more than these protests and for less ideological reasons. [–]Perish_In_a_Fire -1 points 6 hours ago What's more retarded is people supporting a Digital-Rights-Managed "walled garden" computing device. The Apple product treadmill has a single purpose - to make you upgrade to the latest model, whether you need it or not. Think of all those prior generation iDevices that still function, but forced iOS upgrades make them obsolete. The iTunes store won't let you install apps if your OS version is out of date, effectively locking you out of their little money-making machine. Great policy, eh? I think the world deserves more than a closed proprietary shiny gadget that gets thrown out after two years. [–]Perish_In_a_Fire -2 points 6 hours ago Oh no, someone is upset. iPad 1 can be upgraded to iOS 5 - and no further. Even with Apple allowing some legacy apps to exist, you know the writing is on the wall for your beloved iDevice. Why? Because you aren't making them any money by holding on to it. That is the "treadmill" I'm talking about, and even with them opening the gates just a fraction to allow you to load prior buggy releases and plain-old-broken ones doesn't really mitigate the core issue -- they want you to buy the newest and more profitable models. They have succeeded in convincing you to ditch your stuff every four years or less, so I guess you've proven that point for them. [–]i-want-waffles -2 points 5 hours ago If you cared about feeding the poor you would be better served bitching about a million other things than the few thousands of dollars wasted for a protest. You could find more waste than that on the curbs in my neighborhood every week. [–]i-want-waffles 2 points 3 hours ago What gets me is people don't say a word about more damaging waste that happens on a daily bases but suddenly a dozen people destroy their own property in protest and people are freaking out. It makes me think it is what they are destroying that has people pissed off. And people that have never said anything against waste on a site where displays of even greater waste are displayed constantly are suddenly ecowarriors. Seems like bullshit to me. [–]i-want-waffles -2 points 5 hours ago Peaceful protest. What does bra burning do? If you can't think of a reason then it is for a lack of trying. [–]i-want-waffles -1 points 5 hours ago Do you think fuel could be used to a better purpose than getting 50 cars together and turning left for 4 hours to see who goes the fastest. There are bigger fights if you really give a poo poo about waste. [–]futurebound 7 points 6 hours ago Sometimes you just get the urge to dump the tea into the harbor.
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So you know that retarded bird game that was all the rage and is apparently gone now because of nintendo pipes or w/e I honestly haven't been following it closely. Well someone made this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rzmwPjZ0ug And at the 00:30 mark, you'll see why this is relevant to the thread.
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Coinbase refuses to process Bitcoin payments for Washington-based marijuana dispensary (bitcoinexaminer.org) submitted 6 hours ago by BTCNews [–]Helvetian616 -1 points 2 hours ago Everyone is violating one law or another, especially if you have no regard for jurisdiction. Federal law has little or no jurisdiction within the states. [–]Helvetian616 2 points 2 hours ago They say they do (sometimes). But the big clue here is that a constitutional amendment was required to enable alcohol prohibition. Where's the amendment for drug prohibition? [–]Helvetian616 3 points 1 hour ago You're missing the fact that an amendment was required. The Fed has direct control over DC, forts, territories and etc. In those places, marijuana is illegal by fed law. Another clue: they've raided many dispensaries, but as far as I've heard, no charges in regards to fed drug laws have been made. This is just a fear tactic. When they rely on "interstate commerce", sometimes they win, sometimes they don't, but I'm sure they're wary of taking the chance. [–]Helvetian616 1 point 54 minutes ago You're right I suppose. You can get a ticket for jaywalking. There are dispensaries all over WA and CO, no tickets. [–]kilorat 1 point 4 hours ago I was going to say, they could have tried localbitcoins, but if you're going to keep lots of cash, you may as well have just taken cash in the first place. There has got to be a legal solution out there!
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Samurai Quack posted:So you know that retarded bird game that was all the rage and is apparently gone now because of nintendo pipes or w/e I honestly haven't been following it closely.  I want this to be real
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...! posted:iPad 1 can be upgraded to iOS 5 - and no further. Even with Apple allowing some legacy apps to exist, you know the writing is on the wall for your beloved iDevice. Why? Because you aren't making them any money by holding on to it. ah yes, a problem you will definitely not have with android
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chmods please posted:can someone explain to a lazy moron like me who hasn't been paying attention to bitcoins what this means People cannot get BTC out of MtGox. So certain people are selling their Bitcoin locked in MtGox (referred to as goxBTC) for Bitcoin in wallets that can actually be transferred (referred to as realBTC) for discount prices. So, if I had money in MtGox, I might offer to sell that to you for 80% of your non-Gox BTC. If you take the offer and MtGox releases the funds (and I don't scam you), then you made a profit. But really I'm going to scam the gently caress out of you, because I'm a bitcoiner.
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i hope those japanese criminals rob all these loving bitcoin fuckers blind and then btc goes to 1 cent and all these mother bitches suffer
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ty this is a bottomless pit of laffsryde posted:People cannot get BTC out of MtGox. So certain people are selling their Bitcoin locked in MtGox (referred to as goxBTC) for Bitcoin in wallets that can actually be transferred (referred to as realBTC) for discount prices. So, if I had money in MtGox, I might offer to sell that to you for 80% of your non-Gox BTC. If you take the offer and MtGox releases the funds (and I don't scam you), then you made a profit. the future of currency, everyone
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Heresiarch posted:thanks there was at least one major double spend during the .7-.8 hard fork, but since one of the two chains was abandoned it doesn't show in bc.info anymore
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chmods please posted:
Also the past of currency, before we had, you know, central banking.
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Bitcoins sent twice (self.Bitcoin) submitted 14 minutes ago by laptopdude90 I recently moved 0.04 bitcoins from one wallet to another. For some reason, it shows up twice on both wallets, but one is unconfirmed and the other is confirmed. Now I have lots 0.04 bitcoins, as they are shown as gone in one wallet, and unconfirmed in the other. [–]digimonlove 1 point 1 second ago You've fallen victim to the double-spending attacks going around the Bitcoin network. Backup your coins in a paper wallet next time.
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I want to get back at an unwanted miner. (self.Bitcoin) submitted 16 minutes ago by AbatedDust I'm a CS professor at a local junior college. I noticed a few months ago that a few of the machines in the computer labs were running a little harder than an idle machine should be. After a little poking around, I found that someone had stuck a bitcoin client deep into some of the program folders. I removed the files, but a few weeks later I discovered that now all the machines were running the client (CGMiner, btw) with the files sitting in the same location. I got IT to go over them with a scheduled wipe and clean everything out. Afterwards I left a little note in the folders as a mild deterrent and warning. Things were peaceful for a few months, but then the other day I once again heard the whirring of an idle machine that was working a little too hard and, viola, once again all the machines were running the client and the miner left me a little comeback. So now I'm a little pissed, since this guy is putting undue stress our lab computers that probably have short lifespan to begin with. Unfortunately, I haven't really interacted with bitcoin all that much, so I don't know how to easily get back at him. What I do know is that the client has a config file listing, among the various settings, a username and password which I assume is somehow connected to an account or wallet or something. The config file in question. (http://pastebin.com/SLSVUGxQ) My biggest concern is that whoever is doing this is not a student, but faculty, or worse yet, part of the IT department. Regardless of who it is, I want to make clear to them that mining on these computers will lead to them having a very bad day. This is the part where I need your help /r/Bitcoin. My ultimate goal would be to uncover the identity of whoever is doing this, but that may be a bit of a longshot. At the very least, I'm hoping that the info in the config file can somehow lead to an account that could either be hijacked, suspended, deleted, etc. [–]bbbbbubble 0 points 2 minutes ago Instead of trying to punish a student trying to make a few cents a day, why not take have proper computer security implemented, instead
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the canadian government released its 2014 budget plan today.quote:The Government of Canada is committed to a strong and comprehensive regime that is at the forefront of the global fight against money laundering and terrorist financing and that safeguards the integrity of Canada’s financial system and the safety and security of Canadians.
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https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=422 Update on Transaction Malleability Gavin Andresen Feb 11 2014 You may have noticed that some exchanges have temporarily suspended withdrawals and wondering what’s going on or more importantly, what’s being done about it. You can be rest assured that we have identified the issue and are collectively and collaboratively working on a solution. Somebody (or several somebodies) is taking advantage of the transaction malleability issue and relaying mutated versions of transactions. This is exposing bugs in both the reference implementation and some exchange’s software. We (core dev team, developers at the exchanges, and even big mining pools) are creating workarounds and fixes right now. This is a denial-of-service attack; whoever is doing this is not stealing coins, but is succeeding in preventing some transactions from confirming. It’s important to note that DoS attacks do not affect people’s bitcoin wallets or funds. Users of the reference implementation who are bitten by this bug may see their bitcoins “tied up” in unconfirmed transactions; we need to update the software to fix that bug, so when they upgrade those coins are returned to the wallet and are available to spend again. Only users who make multiple transactions in a short period of time will be affected. As a result, exchanges are temporarily suspending withdrawals to protect customer funds and prevent funds from being misdirected. Thanks for your patience. Follow us @BTCFoundation for updates as we learn more and make progress.
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lmao heresiarch someone in one of the local dev irc channels linked your tweet earlier. you must be getting popular
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Pinterest Mom posted:the canadian government released its 2014 budget plan today. I'm so conflicted. on the one hand, Harper and his ministers are a bunch of authoritarian fucks severely loving up everything good about Canada.  On the other hand, he's targeting butts, which is def something that should happen.
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...! posted:Somebody like Andreas Antonopoulos should start a regulatory agency that provides its seal of approval for the Bitcoin practices of an organization. Bitcoin Fed Chairman Andreas was found dead shortly after being sworn in due to what is being described as a suddenly onset of extreme irony.
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quadpus posted:I'm the taped-over webcam haha i never noticed that 
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Joementum posted:Bitcoin Fed Chairman Andreas was found dead shortly after being sworn in due to what is being described as a suddenly onset of extreme irony. could they suck this guy's dick more especially since he isnt actually that bright
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i'm the misplaced apostrophe in the currency of the future's press release.
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Dex posted:https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=422 [–]painlord2k 4 points 2 hours ago Evolution by Aggression. like other p2p opensource non proprietary systems bitcoin is evolving fast. As it is not protected from aggression like the old financial system, it must evolve and become more resilient. Every new attack vector discovered become a new attack vector neutralized. [–]Indy_Pendant 2 points 1 hour ago I know it's causing a little chaos, but I'm glad this is happening now, when it's more easily fixed, than ten years from now, and the number of people using/relying on Bitcoin is vastly greater. Thanks DoSers. 
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Robawesome posted:Instead of trying to punish a student trying to make a few cents a day, why not take have proper computer security implemented, instead ffs
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these idiots think there's something special about BTC i have made software before, this is how software works, a normal company would be heavily criticized for this
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Make the computers coin operated. Fiat coin operated.
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theflyingorc posted:these idiots think there's something special about BTC but it's open source
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api call girl posted:but it's open source which of course makes it more robust because of all the eyes checking for - oh, they just ignored this bug huH?
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Bitcoin is antifragile as they scared away all the rational actors who sell in response to evidence Bitcoin won't go up uP UP, leaving true believers who will hold and create weak rallies out of super-tiny volumes that disappear if one guy sells several thousand BTC at once and push the exchange down to $100.
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theflyingorc posted:which of course makes it more robust because of all the eyes checking for -
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Dex posted:Users of the reference implementation who are bitten by this bug may see their bitcoins “tied up” in unconfirmed transactions faith in algorithmsssssssssssssssssssssssssss.............................................. double sulk posted:lmao heresiarch someone in one of the local dev irc channels linked your tweet earlier. you must be getting popular like a bitcoin dev or something else? theflyingorc posted:which of course makes it more robust because of all the eyes checking for - the cathedral and the outhouse
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Samurai Quack posted:I'm so conflicted. on the other other hand (a.k.a. my dick) they're talking about bitcoin in a grown up forum this is good for bitcoin because
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Robawesome posted:once again all the machines were running the client and the miner left me a little comeback. i really want to know what they wrote 5
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Heresiarch posted:like a bitcoin dev or something else? no unfortunately, just one of the people in an irc for local programmers. but i figure it's getting noticed there was a ruby group meetup tonight but a large part of why i didn't go (aside from the fact that i have to feed a sick dog) is because some shmuck was gonna talk about bitcoins as the main thing
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