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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA: May 29, 2008

Shifty Pony posted:

somewhere there is an Examiner who is going to have to deal with a pro-se bitcoiner as an applicant. and i am glad i am not that Examiner.

Bitcoins are sadly too recent for lots of the applications to have been examined.

This one's pro-se for sure, but examination hasn't occurred yet.

This one's either pro-se or written by someone that wants an easy grant for a patent that doesn't actually cover anything

quote:

1. A method comprising:
a first user of a first electronic device configured to implement computer readable code connects said first electronic device to one or a plurality of electronic devices associated with one or a plurality of second users to access one or a plurality of forms upon said one or a plurality of electronic devices associated with said one or a plurality of second users, said one or a plurality of forms capable of accepting input into said forms from said first user transmitted by said electronic device of said first user;

accepting an instruction to initiate upon said electronic device of said first user computer readable code to capture images of said one or a plurality of forms upon said one or a plurality of electronic devices of said one or a plurality of second users;

accepting an instruction to initiate upon said electronic device of said first user computer readable code to perform an optical character recognition process upon said one or a plurality of captured images of said one or a plurality of said forms;

implementing computer readable code upon characters returned by said optical character recognition process to identify field labels and one or a plurality of data entry field masks types and ranges for shaping of data into data entry fields of said one or a plurality of forms;

loading into memory upon said electronic device of said first user a data store of field labels and associated data entry field masks types and ranges, if available, from a data store accessible via electronic device of said first user;

implementing computer readable code to match field labels and data entry masks types and ranges derived from said one or a plurality of forms against field labels and one or a plurality of data entry masks types and ranges of said data store accessible via said electronic device of said first user;

appending unmatched field labels and assigning data entry fields and said data entry masks types and ranges associated with said field labels to said data store;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post discovered matches of field labels and entries assigned to said field labels into a first section of a GUI upon said device of said first user;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post one or a plurality of content domains assigned to said field labels into a first section of a GUI upon said device of said first user;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post one or a plurality of processing classes assigned to said field labels into a first section of a GUI upon said device of said first user;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to extract from said data store one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value assigned to said matched field labels to post into a first section of a GUI upon said device of said first user;

accepting an instruction to initiate computer readable code to record keystrokes made by said first user as said first user changes one or a plurality of entries assigned to said field labels, one or a plurality of content domains assigned to said field labels, one or a plurality of processing classes assigned to said field labels, and one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value assigned to said field labels within said first section of said GUI;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to load a second section of said GUI upon said device of said first user;

implementing computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post into said second section of said GUI said unmatched field labels with associated data entry field masks types and ranges;

accepting an instruction from said first user to initiate computer readable code to record keystrokes made by said first user as said first user makes entries responsive to empty fields associated with said field labels within said second section of said GUI;

accepting an instruction to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user within said second section of said GUI to accept an assignment of one or a plurality of content domains of said unmatched field labels;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post into said second section of said GUI to accept an assignment to one or a plurality of processing classes of said unmatched field labels;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post into said second section of said GUI to accept an assignment of one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value of said unmatched field labels;

initiating computer readable code to record keystrokes and character inputs made by said first user as said first user completes entry fields associated with said one or a plurality of unmatched fields within said second section of said GUI;

initiating computer readable code to record keystrokes and character inputs made by said first user as said first user assigns said unmatched fields to said content domains within said second section of said GUI;

initiating computer readable code to record keystrokes and character inputs made by said first user as said first user assigns said unmatched fields to processing classes within said second section of said GUI;

initiating computer readable code to record keystrokes and character inputs made by said first user as said first user assigns said unmatched fields to one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value within said second section of said GUI;

posting to said data store said assignment of one or a plurality of said unmatched field labels to one or a plurality of content domains, one or a plurality of processing classes, said one or a plurality of price exchanges or trade value, and said one or a plurality of entries;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to update and save changes within said data store;

storing and retaining within said data store said assignments of one or a plurality of said field labels to one or a plurality of content domains, one or a plurality of processing classes, said one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value, and said one or a plurality of entries;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to post a list of one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said saved data field entries as being for sale or trading or exchange;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to transmit a notification to a second or a plurality of users listing said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said data field entries and announcing that said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said data field entries is for sale or trading or exchange;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to adjust or post one or a plurality of price exchange or trade value for said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said saved data field entries;

observing by the electronic device associated with said first user whether said second one or a plurality of users is positively responsive to said notification;

accepting into said electronic device of said first user an indication of acceptance of said price or trade or exchange value from said one or a plurality of second users;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to transmit a confirmation of an agreement to sell trade or exchange said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said saved data field entries;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to effect the sale trade or exchange and transmit said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said data field entries from a data store of said first user to said second user;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code upon said electronic device of said first user to connect to one or a plurality of payment trade or exchange entities to implement consideration for said sale or trade or exchange of field labels coupled with data field entries;

accepting an instruction from said first user to implement computer readable code to schedule one or a plurality of transmissions to a second or a plurality of users of said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said saved data field entries upon a change in one or a plurality of said data field entries; and

observing by said electronic device of said first user a notification of a change of terms regarding said one or a plurality of field labels coupled with said saved data field entries of the price or trade or exchange value by said second user, of a change of schedule for transmission of changed entries to said second user, and of a change of one or a plurality of payment trade or exchange entities to implement consideration from said second user for said sale or trade or exchange.

So no real luck yet, there will be crazy publications soon enough though. Maybe there are patents about Linden Dollars that were prosecuted pro-se which are hilarious.

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:30

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 08:01

sinekumquat: Jun 12, 2005; the most dangerous philosopher in the west; College Slice

Install Windows posted:

its just what would make sense to do once you found out you could consistently keep taking more bitcoins out of mt gox then you had put in.

how many of you fuckers work on wall street?

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:30

killhamster: Apr 15, 2004; SCAMMER
Hero Member

hey look what someone in irc found for us http://titanpad.com/B6zAf5Exxy

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:32

CISADMIN PRIVILEGE: Aug 15, 2004; optimized multichannel
campaigns to drive
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bitch!

how is bitcoin still going

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:34

Sham bam bamina!: Nov 6, 2012; ƨtupid cat

killhamster posted:

hey look what someone in irc found for us http://titanpad.com/B6zAf5Exxy

5Exxy

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:35

Dj Meow Mix: Jan 27, 2009; corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere

Ab Fablet posted:

how is bitcoin still going

poorly

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:35

Constant Hamprince: Oct 24, 2010; by exmarx; College Slice

FrozenVent posted:

if I'm ever in a position to hire people the application is going to include this:

have you ever consumed porn y/n
have you ever paid for it y/n

if they answer yes to either question you don't hire them, because either a) they're dumb enough to admit to looking at porn on a job application and b) they're stupid enough to pay for porn

also if they answer no to the first don't hire them, because they are either weirdos or lying.

Enderzero posted:

if I ever saw that question I would stop applying right then because if you're playing dumb games on the app imagine what a clownshow the working environment will be.

don't hire anyone who doesn't stop applying after this because they must have zero common sense

basically don't even post the job, just fire everyone + kill self

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# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:55

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

killhamster posted:

hey look what someone in irc found for us http://titanpad.com/B6zAf5Exxy

WELP

I have made a personal commitment not to reply in topics that start with a lowercase letter. Proper grammar and punctuation is a sign of respect, and if you do not show any, you will NOT receive any help (at least not from me).

*Note: An earlier version of this post incorrectly referred to Gangnam as a city in Seoul.

CUNT AND PASTE fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Feb 27, 2014

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:56

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

killhamster posted:

hey look what someone in irc found for us http://titanpad.com/B6zAf5Exxy

what the hell is it

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:57

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

ruined

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:58

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

MtGox Initiative

Current Plan:
1. Get note to Mark =) -- (Lao sent a msg through IRC)
2. Contact other people who can get in touch with Mark and help spread the idea
a. Charlie Shrem (sent a note IRC and twitter)
b. Roger Ver
c. Eric Voorhees
d. Other core developers are typically quoted quite a bit in the media
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors)

3. Circulate widely on:
a. Reddit
b. FB
c. Twitter
d. IRC
e. bitcointalk
f: BTC-e trollbox (be careful with this one though)
g. Bitcoin Foundation forum.

______
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yyrvf/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_voluntary/

Dear Mr. Mark Karpeles,
We are your investors. We are writing you this letter to inform you that we forgive you for the unfortunate demise of Mt Gox and we do not want to see you go to jail. We are also writing you to inform you that we have a proposal to save Mt. Gox and provide the Bitcoin community with what it truly needs: an exchange that has the trust of the entire community. This can be accomplished through a voluntary reorganization of Mt. Gox resulting in your depositors being granted shares in the new exchange.

The ideas behind Bitcoin are bigger than our personal stake and the numbers in our accounts. These ideas are bigger than the 750,000 Bitcoins that may or may not have been stolen from Mt. Gox and are bigger than Mt. Gox itself. The world is watching Bitcoin right now and waiting to see how we handle this. There are those who would love to see us panic and devolve into an angry mob stricken with personal greed and out get every last coin possible. But we are better than that. We know you are, too. This is why we are taking the first step and forgiving you for the mistakes that resulted in the current losses we all face, provided you agree to do what is necessary to make us whole. At present, the first step is to discuss the voluntary reorganization of Mt. Gox taking us on as shareholders. We are putting the idea of Bitcoin ahead of our personal stake because we believe in it, do not want to harm it, and believe that cooperation represents the best method for recouping our losses. We know you agree.

We have a long term vision of Bitcoin, as we believe you do as well. We are open to many suggestions as to how to resolve this, but at this point we believe the following points embody our best options: (1) shareholders should be offered a stake in the new company on a pro rata basis based on their holdings in Mt. Gox (we can come up with a formula for valuing Bitcoin denominated holdings later); (2) those who wish to leave should be offered a haircut. There are many details to be worked out, but this is the essence of the plan. It is a plan that will benefit your depositors, benefit yourself, benefit Bitcoin and benefit other virtual currencies. Most importantly, it will show the world we can regulate ourselves in the face of great adversity. Our ability to self-govern in this time of crisis will serve as a model for other governments and organizations the world over.

We welcome an open discussion about the possibilities for resolving this in a manner that benefits the Bitcoin community and movement as a whole, and balances those interests with our right to compensation while recognizing that you are human. Please restore our faith in yourself and in Mt. Gox by accepting this invitation to discuss our situation.

On Behalf of any Mt. Gox Depositors in Agreement,

Daniel J. Kelman, Esq.

Supporting reading from members of the community:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yyrvf/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_voluntary/
http://codinginmysleep.com/open-letter-mark-karpeles/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=489949.0

# ? Feb 27, 2014 23:59

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Sham bam bamina! posted:

5Exxy

you 5Exxy thing

:q:

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:00

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

dcseankun posted:

http://www.theawl.com/2014/02/the-g...l+%28The+Awl%29

Is that even possible?

it's possible, but bitcoiners would never go for it. occasionally someone will pop up on reddit or bitcointalk and start a thread along the lines of "hey, i have an idea; let's blacklist the bitcoins the fbi took from silk road so they'll be worthless!" and then gets immediately dogpiled by bitcoiners telling him to gently caress off. they say, "if we start blacklisting bitcoins, where does it end? there's a non-zero chance of someone taking a severe loss by accepting bitcoins they didn't know were blacklisted." frankly, that response is one of the least insane things i've seen bitcoiners say

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:01

Adult Sword Owner: Jun 19, 2011; u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

February 26th 2014

Dear MtGox Customers,

As there is a lot of speculation regarding MtGox and its future, I would like to use this opportunity to reassure everyone that I am still in Japan, and working very hard with the support of different parties to find a solution to our recent issues.

Furthermore I would like to kindly ask that people refrain from asking questions to our staff: they have been instructed not to give any response or information. Please visit this page for further announcements and updates.

Sincerely,
Mark Karpeles

Dear MtGox Customers,

In light of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.

Best regards,
MtGox Team

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:01

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

hey guys let's work on private poo poo on the open internet like a bunch of scrub babies

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:05

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

Werthog 95 posted:

what the hell is it

scroll back in the timeline, some folks were trying to put together a doc that forgives kerplopples and provides an escape route

then, poo poo, idk. people found it.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:08

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

Werthog 95 posted:

MtGox Initiative

Current Plan:
1. Get note to Mark =) -- (Lao sent a msg through IRC)
2. Contact other people who can get in touch with Mark and help spread the idea
a. Charlie Shrem (sent a note IRC and twitter)
b. Roger Ver
c. Eric Voorhees
d. Other core developers are typically quoted quite a bit in the media
(https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors)

3. Circulate widely on:
a. Reddit
b. FB
c. Twitter
d. IRC
e. bitcointalk
f: BTC-e trollbox (be careful with this one though)
g. Bitcoin Foundation forum.

______
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yyrvf/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_voluntary/

Dear Mr. Mark Karpeles,
We are your investors. We are writing you this letter to inform you that we forgive you for the unfortunate demise of Mt Gox and we do not want to see you go to jail. We are also writing you to inform you that we have a proposal to save Mt. Gox and provide the Bitcoin community with what it truly needs: an exchange that has the trust of the entire community. This can be accomplished through a voluntary reorganization of Mt. Gox resulting in your depositors being granted shares in the new exchange.

The ideas behind Bitcoin are bigger than our personal stake and the numbers in our accounts. These ideas are bigger than the 750,000 Bitcoins that may or may not have been stolen from Mt. Gox and are bigger than Mt. Gox itself. The world is watching Bitcoin right now and waiting to see how we handle this. There are those who would love to see us panic and devolve into an angry mob stricken with personal greed and out get every last coin possible. But we are better than that. We know you are, too. This is why we are taking the first step and forgiving you for the mistakes that resulted in the current losses we all face, provided you agree to do what is necessary to make us whole. At present, the first step is to discuss the voluntary reorganization of Mt. Gox taking us on as shareholders. We are putting the idea of Bitcoin ahead of our personal stake because we believe in it, do not want to harm it, and believe that cooperation represents the best method for recouping our losses. We know you agree.

We have a long term vision of Bitcoin, as we believe you do as well. We are open to many suggestions as to how to resolve this, but at this point we believe the following points embody our best options: (1) shareholders should be offered a stake in the new company on a pro rata basis based on their holdings in Mt. Gox (we can come up with a formula for valuing Bitcoin denominated holdings later); (2) those who wish to leave should be offered a haircut. There are many details to be worked out, but this is the essence of the plan. It is a plan that will benefit your depositors, benefit yourself, benefit Bitcoin and benefit other virtual currencies. Most importantly, it will show the world we can regulate ourselves in the face of great adversity. Our ability to self-govern in this time of crisis will serve as a model for other governments and organizations the world over.

We welcome an open discussion about the possibilities for resolving this in a manner that benefits the Bitcoin community and movement as a whole, and balances those interests with our right to compensation while recognizing that you are human. Please restore our faith in yourself and in Mt. Gox by accepting this invitation to discuss our situation.

On Behalf of any Mt. Gox Depositors in Agreement,

Daniel J. Kelman, Esq.

Supporting reading from members of the community:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yyrvf/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_voluntary/
http://codinginmysleep.com/open-letter-mark-karpeles/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=489949.0

(continued)

Other factors to consider in moving forward. Also exchange ideas to create interest and obtain depositers and traders.

3. Obtaining more information from Mark on coin situations. Find out if coins are infact gone and stolen or frozen and seized due to gov. If the latter, figure out if its possible to go ahead with the new exchange to free up the coins this way.

4. Break up control and ownership of exchange. Need more discussion on where mark fits here.

5. locate exchange to a finanically friendly location (outside of control of. Cook Islands) IS Japan not a financially friendly location?

6. have all transcations accounts as public as possible.

7. all bitcoin should be very easily accessible and controlled by users

8. introduce type of digital share in the exchange

9. have bitcoin generate interest, obtain this largely from the trading fee and have near 95% of all fees feed back in to the exchange

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# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:08

duTrieux.: Oct 9, 2003

oval office AND PASTE posted:

hey guys let's work on private poo poo on the open internet like a bunch of scrub babies

to the cloud!

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:08

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

salted hash browns posted:

where is the proof of this skimming/arbitrage scheme that has been mentioned?

the powerpoint shown to investors to convince them to bail mtgox out in its time of need

said powerpoint also talked of mark's plan of getting to 200k coins as backing and then reopening the exchange.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:09

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

surprise, surprise. bitcoiners have so little understanding of government that they think yellen's statement that the fed can't regulate bitcoins means that the entire us government can't regulate bitcoins. they're making lots of :smuggo:

at manchin

[�]folhowk 100 points 5 hours ago

Well Manchin must feel like an idiot.

[�]midoridrops 20 points 5 hours ago

I bet he doesn't care. He's still probably thumping his chest, like a doofus.

[�]bitsprint 3 points 1 hour ago

It's not a matter of authority; neither the Fed nor Banks nor Fincen have the ability to ban bitcoin. Yellen said that "there's no intersection at all, in any way, between Bitcoin and banks that the Federal Reserve has the ability to supervise and regulate."

[�]Benjamminmiller 4 points 1 hour ago*

Regulation of other currencies is not the duty of the Fed and at less than a tenth of the value of their monthly bond purchases I couldn't possibly see the Fed caring to make it their business.

When a Fed president, chair, governor says "that's not our duty" they're not saying "go legislate me more work". This is not a case of Yellen making a political grab at more responsibility, this is Yellen politely telling Manchin he has no clue what he's talking about.

I find your social commentary comically ironic in the face of your understanding of the Fed.

[�]throwawyacct 42 points 5 hours ago

She is, of course, correct. It really warms my heart that she said this publicly.

[�]justgimmieaname 10 points 3 hours ago

yeah, I'm a bit stupefied. 1 year ago I was 90% sure the Fed was gonna come down like a hammer as soon as the price broke 1,000 USD

[�]pyalot 15 points 4 hours ago

Who'd have thunk Yellen would educate Manchin... poo poo gets real.

[�]tedrick111 -3 points 4 hours ago

Anyone who "gets" money to the extent that a fed chairman does probably owns some bitcoin right about now.

[�]evoorhees 22 points 5 hours ago

In 3... 2... 1...

"Manchin calls for increased powers at Federal Reserve to protect American consumers."

[�]_professorcrypto_ 4 points 5 hours ago*

Yellen yelling at Joe: "Stop this nonsense".

[�]Anen-o-me 4 points 4 hours ago

Yellen gets it:

"It's not so easy to regulate Bitcoin because there's no central issuer or network operator. This is a decentralized, global [entity]."

And this is an admission of extreme difficulty for governments everywhere. Hooray!

[�]superfetatoire 11 points 5 hours ago

This will hopefully quiet down the tinfoil hat rage redditors that look at regulators through a rifle scope. It seems that the government is adopting a very sane and reasonable attitude towards crypto currencies.

[�]Dumbhandle 1 point 3 hours ago

Yellen has been given the duty to steer the ship through the iceberg fields - an impossible task. She is not going to bring about the collapse by shutting off the spigot. I feel funny about giving her kudos for a great bitcoin answer to a statement from an intellectually challenged senator, but that was nicely done. She does not seem too bad for having been assigned something impossible. They all know their time is limited and it's all going down. I kind of like her.

[�]fragdemuerte 1 point 2 hours ago

Very good news! Yellen made a very smart statement today, proving that Senator Manchin is a dolt. Very accurate response to say that "Bitcoin doesn't touch banks." That's because bitcoin goes around banks. It's a means of transferring wealth outside of the banks. We'll see what FinCen says now... I think we're going to be free-and-clear pretty soon. Mt. Gox is dead, and opposition is shrinking.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:13

theflyingorc: Jun 28, 2008; ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS; Young Orc

Uh.... Do these guys think the Fed is the only thing the government does

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:17

Constant Hamprince: Oct 24, 2010; by exmarx; College Slice

...! posted:

surprise, surprise. bitcoiners have so little understanding of government that they think yellen's statement that the fed can't regulate bitcoins means that the entire us government can't regulate bitcoins. they're making lots of at manchin

these people think the legal system is some kind of evil sorcery, like yellen was saying that she doesn't have the wizard power neccessary to regulate bitcoin. this is the same line of thinking that makes freemen on the land think they can get out of murder charges with the pseudolegal equivalent of casting 'dispel' at the judge

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:18

Lain Iwakura: Aug 5, 2004; The body exists only to verify one's own existence.; Taco Defender

the document is quite silly

Lain Iwakura fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 28, 2014

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:19

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

Jonad posted:

these people think the legal system is some kind of evil sorcery, like yellen was saying that she doesn't have the wizard power neccessary to regulate bitcoin. this is the same line of thinking that makes freemen on the land think they can get out of murder charges with the pseudolegal equivalent of casting 'dispel' at the judge

to them it's literally about power

like literal dbz-style 'over 9000' measurable power levels

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:19

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

well wouldya look at that

CUNT AND PASTE fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 28, 2014

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:20

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

look:
magic: uses latin words
law: uses latin words

therefore law is magic

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:25

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

Bitcoins are sadly too recent for lots of the applications to have been examined.

This one's pro-se for sure, but examination hasn't occurred yet.

This one's either pro-se or written by someone that wants an easy grant for a patent that doesn't actually cover anything

So no real luck yet, there will be crazy publications soon enough though. Maybe there are patents about Linden Dollars that were prosecuted pro-se which are hilarious.

those areas i think are still clogged with tons of applications so it might be quite a while.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 00:40

Crust First: May 1, 2013; Wrong lads.

has anyone said "gently caress you, got miners" yet

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:00

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

buttcoin had 120k page views this month :stare:

gg killhamster

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:03

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Let it be known that I thought of it first! (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 2 minutes ago by JaykieJake

A bitcoin interpersonal network.

1: no risk of lost keys, keys can be recovered through several security questions and text message

2: know who you are sending to, everyone will have a unique wallet linked to their interpersonal page

3: when you send funds they appear like a post on someone's wall, obviously these are private between the sender and receiver of the funds.

4: automatically selects correct fee so that the transaction goes through instantly

5: ease of funding. Because it is linked to your phone, you simply use your android go or itunes account to make an inapp purchase to load up. (we're talking regular dumb highschoolers and college kids here, most highschoolers don't have a understanding of a bank account or checks anymore.

The site will be provided for free and make money off business advertisements. What business wouldn't want to advertise on a site where you can purchase instantly?

Anyway, posting this on here because I don't know how to develop web and I figure if someone can and is interested in this maybe they could shoot me a p.m. and we can start. I do have a lot of skills in UX and application programming, mostly java and c++. I have an idea on the design and layout as well, and the mobile app.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:42

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Random Gox Speculation for Today: FBI and desperation. (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 7 minutes ago by Hunterbunter

So here it is:

Karpele is under a gag order, and the main cold wallet is frozen because the FBI want to stop criminals laundering money on Gox from being able to move it out, while they track it down.

He tried (and was allowed) to keep running as normal, but needed access to the frozen funds to keep going, and couldn't get it, causing a freeze on btc withdrawals. USD withdrawals were already hindered by bank delays, causing an increase in btc withdrawals beyond regular deposits.

Shutdown was caused after either pressure from mounting civil suits regarding withdrawals or FBI interdiction.

Meanwhile, the main deposit coins are still there, and being worked over by the FBI. In order to continue trading, he lied about stolen coins using a bs but plausible 'TM did it" excuse, to get some trading funds, but it was taken very badly. He couldn't say anything to correct anyone, and had to eat the resignation. TM was just a recent problem, and didn't make any sense under scrutiny, and he couldn't backtrack after it went sour because of the gag. Desperation to keep the exchange running drove him to seek support from other exchanges who ... reasonably believed he was retarded and threw him under the bus. He wasn't retarded, just his story was.

This fits what karpeles has actually said, eg "more or less true", "temporarily unavailable", "9gag batman", and the fact that known mtgox addresses are still sitting there with vast sums of coins unused. It obviously calls into question everything everyone else has claimed to know about what's going on.

I think there is one thing that's quite certain. No one has any clue what is actually going on behind the scenes at gox except for gox and the US govt.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:44

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

I enjoy the idea that the whole exchange being shut down by the FBI is a more desirable outcome than what actually happened

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:48

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

looks like maxim drank the kool-aid

http://www.maxim.com/money/after-the-huge-bitcoin-heist-we-ask-what-the-hell-is-bitcoin-anyway

After The Huge Bitcoin Heist, We Ask: What The Hell Is Bitcoin, Anyway?
February 26, 2014
By: Owen Reuther

You may have read rumors recently about a heist that saw around $350 million being stolen from something called Mt. Gox. And you may then have read slightly further and seen that the currency stolen was called "Bitcoin," at which point, you probably shrugged and moved on, figuring it was probably something to do with those crazy kids with their World Of Warcraft and their Facebook and smartphones and all-night discotheques with the fancy cocktails. But wait! Bitcoins are a real thing, and someday - maybe someday soon - they may even be relevant to your life. So in the interest of pretending we're occasionally useful, here's what you need to know about Bitcoins.

Okay, smartass, what the hell is a Bitcoin?

Short version: It's just an alternative form of currency, and it can be used to buy pretty much anything, provided the seller accepts it. Although described as a crypto-currency, certain physical retailers, caf�s, and restaurants around the country accept Bitcoins now, so it's not just relegated to an Internet currency anymore - there's even a Bitcoin ATM in Austin, Texas.

So why is Bitcoin kinda associated with more, uh, illegal kinda stuff?

Weellll, it's a pretty popular form of payment on the Dark Web. See, the Dark Web is a shady region of the Internet (because nerds love giving things awesome names); a sort of virtual underbelly far from Google's searchbots where criminal things go down. If you know what you're doing, you can buy anything from a brick of heroin to a machine gun to an assassin online, and the heavily-encrypted Bitcoin tends to be the currency of choice because it allows you to safely make a payment without entering your credit card details. After Silk Road - a sort of Amazon.com for drugs and other bad poo poo - got shut down, a lot of the news reports kind of lumped Bitcoin in with Silk Road, so it's still unfortunately associated with those kinds of nefarious activities.

So how do you go about acquiring these Bitcoins, then?

It's actually pretty simple.

Step 1: Set up a digital Bitcoin wallet using easily downloadable software.
Step 2: Exchange your money, either directly from your bank account or using a credit card, for Bitcoins. This is done through a Bitcoin exchange market such as Mt. Gox, which was, until yesterday, the largest and most important Bitcoin market in the world.
Step 3: Purchase things with your Bitcoins from vendors who will accept them.

As with all currencies, value is based on popular consensus. For example, we can�t hand our landlord an issue of Maxim Magazine and expect to pay our rent with it, but if, one day, people decided old issues of Maxim Magazine were the most valuable things on Earth (which we pray for every day), we would instantly become ridiculously wealthy. The point is, if enough people agree that something has value, or more importantly, if someone is willing to exchange goods or services for something, it becomes valuable. People in the digital world have agreed to assign value to Bitcoins, so whether you like it or not, they�re worth something.

So...is Maxim going to be lecturing us on digital currencies from now on, instead of showing us pictures of sexy girls and articles about farting?

No, it's just this one. Normal service will resume...now.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:49

CUNT AND PASTE: Aug 15, 2004; ~see my amazon wishlistu~

qirex posted:

I enjoy the idea that the whole exchange being shut down by the FBI is a more desirable outcome than what actually happened

this is what comes of "a bitcoiner wouldn't gently caress over bitcoiners AGAIN" thinking

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:49

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK: Sep 11, 2008; Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola
-Cheap Trick; Nap Ghost

...! posted:

Let it be known that I thought of it first! (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 2 minutes ago by JaykieJake

A bitcoin interpersonal network.

1: no risk of lost keys, keys can be recovered through several security questions and text message

2: know who you are sending to, everyone will have a unique wallet linked to their interpersonal page

3: when you send funds they appear like a post on someone's wall, obviously these are private between the sender and receiver of the funds.

4: automatically selects correct fee so that the transaction goes through instantly

5: ease of funding. Because it is linked to your phone, you simply use your android go or itunes account to make an inapp purchase to load up. (we're talking regular dumb highschoolers and college kids here, most highschoolers don't have a understanding of a bank account or checks anymore.

The site will be provided for free and make money off business advertisements. What business wouldn't want to advertise on a site where you can purchase instantly?

Anyway, posting this on here because I don't know how to develop web and I figure if someone can and is interested in this maybe they could shoot me a p.m. and we can start. I do have a lot of skills in UX and application programming, mostly java and c++. I have an idea on the design and layout as well, and the mobile app.

ill start the wiki

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:54

...!: Oct 5, 2003; I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

So what does Mark Karpeles deserve? (self.Bitcoin)

submitted 1 hour ago by Iamhollywood5

What does everyone think is a fair punishment for this guy? Life in prison? Assassination? He's already cost some people their entire lives and his actions have likely resulted in at least a couple of suicides so far.

I think life in prison is pretty fair.

[�]voluntaryistmitch 2 points 23 minutes ago

He should have all of his assets taken to recompensate his victims and then work for the rest of his life to try to repay them.

[�]tldrtldrtldr 1 point 59 minutes ago

I am down voting this because I don't think assassination is an option. Scam or not, this shouldn't even be asked.

[�]eldormilon 2 points 56 minutes ago

Not necessarily disagreeing with you on an ideological level, but in a world in which a $7000 rocket can kill multiple people who engaged in no crimes at all, how much value does the life of a person have if that person has destroyed the lives of others?

[�]benjaminsdad 1 point 28 minutes ago

Death via bitcoin bounty on his head.

[�]Prattler26 0 points 1 hour ago

Forced labour until he repays his debts.

[�]callmark81345501529 0 points 57 minutes ago

We need to know what he knows before we could think what a fair punishment is.

I say, give him a real incentive to share the truth to the world.

Seriously, someone force him to share the whole truth. Give him a polygraph and a brain scan lie detector, on video!

It could be pay per view, with bitcoins, to support the victims. Then, the victims can call in and ask questions, for more bitcoins, of course. Finally, he'll be put into the worlds first Running Man (see the movie), which you can watch via pay per view / bitcoins.

Give it to Netflix.

Netflix, meet Mark Karpeles, & Bitcoin.

[�]Vapor114 0 points 56 minutes ago

He should be charged with fraud and spend a prison sentence. A message needs to be sent that you have a responsibility when dealing with people's earnings. Mandatory dual authentication would be a start of due diligence.

# ? Feb 28, 2014 01:57

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

since it is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT that the collapse of mtgox will in the long run be good for bitcoin i say the guy deserves a medal for services to bitcoin

# ? Feb 28, 2014 02:02