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The Dark Eldar would be interesting to examine through an outsiders perspective. Clearly the best option is to have a series about one of the DE who throws off his race's proclivities and strikes out on his own, defeating the other races preconceptions through absurdly powerful battle prowess and a heart of gold. He can even carry two force scimitars Deofuta fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Anonymous Zebra posted:The scene in the Night Lords trilogy where they are working alongside another traitor chapter, get suddenly ambushed, and the other marines turn around to ask the NL for help only to realize they already ran away is still one of the funniest things I've read (next to a certain battle oath made by a character from the 3rd book). Which battle oath?
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How bad is that Ultramarines Warhammer movie? Like if i smoke a whole lot of weed will it be bearable? Dan Abnett did the screenplay.....
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Waroduce posted:How bad is that Ultramarines Warhammer movie? Like if i smoke a whole lot of weed will it be bearable? Dan Abnett did the screenplay..... It's literally the worst thing I've ever watched. No hyperbole.
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Fellblade posted:It's literally the worst thing I've ever watched. No hyperbole. It's really not that bad. It's a completely fan made movie that's good for what it is.
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Apr 4, 2014 17:10
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Fried Chicken posted:Which battle oath? The one Xarl makes right before fighting the Genesis Chapter champion. Something along the lines of, "These men are members of First Claw, and they will likely die as they lived...running away from danger like cowards."
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Apr 4, 2014 17:25
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Joe Videogames posted:It's really not that bad. It's a completely fan made movie that's good for what it is. Amusingly enough, the fan made 40k movie looks better than that piece of poo poo does.
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Joe Videogames posted:It's really not that bad. It's a completely fan made movie that's good for what it is. Bad CG. Bad story. Boring characters. Doesn't make sense in the lore. The voice actors are the only redeeming feature despite making space marines sound like old men.
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Fellblade posted:Bad CG. It's almost like it was made by fans without the benefit of a AAA studio with thousands of dollars of CG technology and experience! Maybe next time Pixar will pick it up and make you happy. The story was fine. Ultramarines fight chaos. Who cares? The only thing that bothered me was how much like World Eaters the Black Legion acted with all the reckless charging they did. Space Marines aren't really known for their depth. They're literally mass produced super soldiers. How does it not make sense in lore?
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Joe Videogames posted:It's almost like it was made by fans without the benefit of a AAA studio with thousands of dollars of CG technology and experience! Maybe next time Pixar will pick it up and make you happy. It's been years since I saw it and it's sat on my shelf without being watched since, but I'll try and remember. I do distinctly remember thinking that I'd seen better CG from people on my university course. The entire cast act like moronic stereotypes, it's like reading a story written by a 12 year old. While investigating why 100 Imperial Fists have suddenly died, veteran space marines with 100+ years of experience wander around ignoring their squad mates when they say they saw an enemy. While on the topic, why is 1/10th of a first founding chapter stationed to guard a book with no inquisition presence out on the eastern fringe.
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The only thing I remember about the Ultramarine Movie is wondering how the hell they manage to get John Hurt of all people to voice a character.
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Let's not forget scouts/initiates sassing a veteran Apothecary, and no one batting an eye.
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Joe Videogames posted:It's almost like it was made by fans without the benefit of a AAA studio with thousands of dollars of CG technology and experience! Maybe next time Pixar will pick it up and make you happy. Where are you getting that it was made by fans? It sure looks like it was made by an actual production company and has a bunch of credits for real industry people and actual actors.
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Muppetjedi posted:The only thing I remember about the Ultramarine Movie is wondering how the hell they manage to get John Hurt of all people to voice a character. He apparently had a family member who was a pretty big fan of 40k. I didn't mind the movie, I've watched it a couple of times since it was released. I personally never bought it, which probably contributed to my lack of vitriol towards the flick. The story was whatever. The animation was stiff, but they spent a lot of their time doing face capture to get all the expressions but even that was arguably less than stellar. The soundtrack was memorable in that the melody of that Astartes chant from the beginning of the movie got stuck in my head for days. Voice acting was the tops and I didn't mind the age in everyones tones. It was a disappointing first attempt at a GW animated movie to be sure, but I hope it did well enough for them to at least give it another try if only because I want to see more movies come out of this. Since it's been awhile and there hasn't been any rumors of anything like that, I doubt that'll be happening. Cream_Filling posted:Where are you getting that it was made by fans? It sure looks like it was made by an actual production company and has a bunch of credits for real industry people and actual actors. Maybe he's confusing it with Lord Inquisitor? Which will be a fully fan made movie whenever it gets finished. AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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I finally finished Lord of the Night, and it was amazing. The book is pretty drat dark for something the black library published.
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Thanks for the replies about the Dark Eldar books - I'm disappointed but not terribly surprised. I read one of the excerpts and it sounded somewhat promising, although it has hints of being written to 9th- or 10th-grade reading level, which is about what I expected. I guess as long as the plot is reasonable it might be OK light reading.
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UberJumper posted:The book is pretty drat dark for something the black library published. Hehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Doubly funny since warhammer 40k is grim and dark as poo poo so this makes basically zero sense.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:The scene in the Night Lords trilogy where they are working alongside another traitor chapter, get suddenly ambushed, and the other marines turn around to ask the NL for help only to realize they already ran away is still one of the funniest things I've read (next to a certain battle oath made by a character from the 3rd book). That's one of my favorite scenes as well. Without spoiling the story too much, the allies of the Night Lords go all out to serve as an example and to encourage them as fellow warriors of the long war only to find the Night Lords have used the battle as a distraction and thrown away an extremely beneficial alliance, wealth and power and a chance to actually do some damage to the Imperium all for the sake of reclaiming their 'honour'. It's an act that makes no strategic sense especially to a legion of pragmatists but it's really one of the only goals that they're all agreed on undertaking. Between that and things like the story about Talos' dog or the revelation that Talos joined the legion because he wanted to be a hero, The Night Lords really are the best written Legion.
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Kegslayer posted:The Night Lords really are the best written Legion. Which is great because before ADB got hold of them they basically had nothing written about them beyond "these dudes be scary"
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Fellblade posted:It's been years since I saw it and it's sat on my shelf without being watched since, but I'll try and remember. I do distinctly remember thinking that I'd seen better CG from people on my university course. Yes because complete amateurs made the movie. quote:The entire cast act like moronic stereotypes, it's like reading a story written by a 12 year old. So it's like 99.99% of the HH series books ever written. It fits right in. quote:While investigating why 100 Imperial Fists have suddenly died, veteran space marines with 100+ years of experience wander around ignoring their squad mates when they say they saw an enemy. While on the topic, why is 1/10th of a first founding chapter stationed to guard a book with no inquisition presence out on the eastern fringe. Who cares? First founding or 21st founding, Space Marines are doing all kinds of dumb poo poo around the universe. Some guarding a goblet full of 10k year old blood, others just dicking about in fortresses on backwater worlds. The book was able to open a chaos portal, so maybe the Fists, with their penchant for building fortifications and defensive structures, was tasked with guarding this immensely powerful book? I'm just trying to say that it wasn't that bad.
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The Ultramarines movie was loving horrid on pretty much every level -- art, animation, storytelling, pacing, editing, direction, voice acting, fitting the setting, really just everything about it was an absolute travesty. Why are you defending it?
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Mechafunkzilla posted:The Ultramarines movie was loving horrid on pretty much every level -- art, animation, storytelling, pacing, editing, direction, voice acting, fitting the setting, really just everything about it was an absolute travesty. Why are you defending it? Because it's all we have. Why don't you go make one better so we can forget about Ultramarine. It's just so goony to hate stuff for the sake of hating it. I just read a passage in Betrayer where Lorgar kinetics a boulder the size of a rhino into a Warhounds cockpit and kills it. In a series marketed to pre-adolescent boys, Ultramarine was loving Shakespeare. Oh and Angron stops a Titan from stomping him to death by holding its foot up like Mr. Incredible. Haha. Yea man, ultramarine was such schlock. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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Joe Videogames posted:Yes because complete amateurs made the movie. No, you're thinking of the other warhammer 40k movie which I think is still on production and CG wise at least looks a lot better than Ultramarines. The Ultramarines movie was made by an actual production company with real (relatively) big name actors doing the voicework and written by Dan Abnett, nothing about it was amateur or indy work. Games Workshop bankrolled it and it is real bad. e: This is the one made by 'complete amateurs': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7glPda2Lcc
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hopterque posted:No, you're thinking of the other warhammer 40k movie which I think is still on production and CG wise at least looks a lot better than Ultramarines. That looks awful. This is what I'm saying isn't as bad as everyone says: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvCLG1QZjs
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Joe Videogames posted:That looks awful. It does look pretty bad, but visually it's (mostly) way nicer looking than the Ultramarines movie, and is actually made by amateurs.
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hopterque posted:Hehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Eh, the books are grim dark, but most of them are clearly written for a much younger audience.
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There's no hating stuff for the sake of hating it, it's loving awful. The first 30 seconds of that video you linked that shows it 'wasn't that bad' is them going: 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye' I'd rather have nothing than have Ultramarines.
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Joe Videogames posted:This is what I'm saying isn't as bad as everyone says: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvCLG1QZjs You're right. It's worse. I don't see how in the gently caress you could say Lord Inquisitor looks worse than that lovely Ultramarines movie? Ultramarines looks like it was made along side Beast Wars or those other lovely cgi cartoon shows. I guess you think it looks better than the DoW intros (and Mark of Chaos, I'm guessing)? From what I've seen of it, I think the Space Marines game even looks better.
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I read GG up to Honour Guard and Necropolis was the only one I thought was worth reading. How many until there's another one that good? gently caress was it awesome.
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Mr. Soul posted:I read GG up to Honour Guard and Necropolis was the only one I thought was worth reading. How many until there's another one that good? gently caress was it awesome. Not too far as I think Sabbat Martyr is right around the corner chronologically and it's pretty good from what I can recall of it and then Traitor General is pretty good as well. Can't really remember much of His Last Command and The Armour of Contempt but after that you do have Only in Death followed by Blood Pact. Salvations Reach while having a lot of good subplots and such has a rather meh main plot.
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Haven't seen the Ultramarines movie, but drat, that video quality looks like a bit more polished cinematic from a game made in the 90's, like Chaos Gate. The videos from Mark of Chaos definitely looks better than this.
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Angry Lobster posted:Haven't seen the Ultramarines movie, but drat, that video quality looks like a bit more polished cinematic from a game made in the 90's, like Chaos Gate. The videos from Mark of Chaos definitely looks better than this. Every cinematic from any of the Dawn of War games, going back to 2004, looks a million times better and genuinely capture the gritty war atmosphere. The intro to the first Dawn of War was mindblowing at the time, and as someone introduced to the Warhammer 40k universe from that game it was more or less perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQkMVVdekg The Ultramarines movie looks like something an Oblivion mod team would produce.
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Angry Lobster posted:Haven't seen the Ultramarines movie, but drat, that video quality looks like a bit more polished cinematic from a game made in the 90's, like Chaos Gate. The videos from Mark of Chaos definitely looks better than this.
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Joe Videogames posted:Because it's all we have. Why don't you go make one better so we can forget about Ultramarine. Hating stuff because it's boring and ugly is not "for the sake of hating it". If you really think the Ultramarines movie looked good or was fun to watch, well, more power to you, but you have awful taste.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Hating stuff because it's boring and ugly is not "for the sake of hating it". If you really think the Ultramarines movie looked good or was fun to watch, well, more power to you, but you have awful taste. It was fun to watch. But I'm talking about it in a sub-forum that takes its bolter porn as seriously as rogue scholars and Shakespeare 
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Joe Videogames posted:It was fun to watch. I guess I have terrible taste in stuff marketed to kids Why the gently caress are you even in this thread if you're going to have this kind of "well it's for CHILDREN herp derp" lovely attitude? There's nothing stopping genre fiction or 'for kids' stuff from also being good and worth evaluating.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Why the gently caress are you even in this thread if you're going to have this kind of "well it's for CHILDREN herp derp" lovely attitude? There's nothing stopping genre fiction or 'for kids' stuff from also being good and worth evaluating. Becaue I like some HH series books too? Same can be said for your lovely, unrealistic standard set to a fan made episode of space marines. Sure, it wasn't a CGI masterpiece like some James Cameron movie, but it wasn't this piece of abject garbage all of you like to call it, and that's been my argument from the start. It was fun for what it was: watching space marines shoot chaos in the face.
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Joe Videogames posted:Becaue I like some HH series books too? By this logic Battle for the Abyss is the best HH book.
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Joe Videogames posted:Becaue I like some HH series books too? It wasn't fan made. We're piling on the Ultramarines movie because it looks like it's going to get outperformed by a movie that actually is fan made. The point is that you can enjoy a work of genre fiction while at the same time keeping some perspective and realizing it isn't Shakespeare, while yet again at the same time holding it to *some* relative standard. So: relative to a lot of 40k fiction, the Ultramarines movie was garbage. Joe Videogames posted:Because it's all we have. Why don't you go make one better so we can forget about Ultramarine.
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