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I'm trying to crowdfund a peer-to-peer lucid dreaming homeless shelter ... but with bitcoins!
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:05 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 08:44 |
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Join the waitlist for an unusual frozen yogurt law firm ... but with bitcoins!
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:06 |
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What about a micro anarchist operating system ... but with bitcoins! I'm trying to crowdfund a niche dried strawberry TV show ... but with bitcoins! What about a redditor dumpster hackerspace ... but with bitcoins!
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:07 |
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Offline wallets are confusing, like every other tortured metaphor in Bitcoin land. Here's how it works: Bitcoin addresses have a private key and public key, with the public key being publicly shared to receive payment, and which is hashed from the private key. The private key is needed to actually send bitcoin transactions. So, if you grab yourself an offline computer with the Bitcoin address generating bullshit, and hook it up to a printer that has no ability to hook up to the internet or memorize previous print jobs (), print out the pair of keys, and slap a sticker over the private key so that nobody can ever steal it, you have an online wallet. Now, you can send bitcoins to the public key, ask for donations to it online (because you are a bitcoiner), and look up its balance through sites like Blockchain.info, and nobody can steal the private key, unless they take the paper. Also, watch out for paper's natural enemy, a flooded basement, or just losing it in your hovel.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:07 |
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I'm trying to hack up an online boob for toddlers... but with bitcoins!
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:12 |
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fleshweasel posted:I'm trying to hack up an online boob for toddlers... but with bitcoins! finally, an alternative to sucking the government teat
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:13 |
TVarmy posted:Offline wallets are confusing, like every other tortured metaphor in Bitcoin land. that's a loving load of bullshit because a truly "offline" key would have the public/private key kept completely hidden away, which effectively makes them useless because the address can't do anything without being a part of the blockchain so once again, bitcoiners make poo poo up that isn't completely/perfectly representative of the truth
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:13 |
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ArchWizard posted:i think i figured out why bitcoiners believe tipping is necessary: it doesn't occur to them to not give money to a business that provides poor customer service actually they love tipping because it's the only time in life that they get to exercise direct influence over a person with their money. it's the ultimate libtard power fantasy. well, that and prostitution.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:17 |
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The Management posted:actually they love tipping because it's the only time in life that they get to exercise direct influence over a person with their money. it's the ultimate libtard power fantasy. well, that and prostitution. and they're all too scared of women, sorry "females" to deal with hookers
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:41 |
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Janitor Prime posted:secret pizza magazine mods please!?
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:45 |
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Sweevo posted:and they're all too scared of women, sorry "females" to deal with hookers they're m'ladies, god
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:58 |
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Smello posted:it's something that already exists and works pretty well made more convoluted and risky by unnecessarily involving bitcoin, but that's not important right now 5
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 20:58 |
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Tanith posted:they're m'ladies, god only when talking to them, not about them
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:10 |
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there's also a kind of conspicuous consumption element to tipping that i imagine assholes would miss, i remember reading rush limbaugh is a huge tipper. it's charity for libertarians: overpaying as a very public gesture of appreciation versus something awarded arbitrarily. where you can assure your money goes to ''your type'' of people.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:23 |
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double sulk posted:that's a loving load of bullshit because a truly "offline" key would have the public/private key kept completely hidden away, which effectively makes them useless because the address can't do anything without being a part of the blockchain only with a stupid deflationary currency would you ever consider this a good idea, because your money is only safe until you try to use it
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:24 |
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theflyingorc posted:because your money is only safe until you try to use it J G Wentworth is rolling in his grave
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:43 |
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CoolCab posted:there's also a kind of conspicuous consumption element to tipping that i imagine assholes would miss, i remember reading rush limbaugh is a huge tipper. it's charity for libertarians: overpaying as a very public gesture of appreciation versus something awarded arbitrarily. where you can assure your money goes to ''your type'' of people. More than just charity, it's the CoI chance to be the magnanimous patron to the poor proles who serve him. The whole tipping thing is something that goes back to aristocracy, and for some it's still an expression of power. Tipping has, in observation, not been shown to have any effect on the service a customer receives, that depends on the dedication of the staff. Still, the idea that you're the one who gets to reward the server for pleasing or displeasing is a huge thing for some people. It's demented and hosed, but then again so is a lot of capitalism.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:44 |
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Samurai Quack posted:More than just charity, it's the CoI chance to be the magnanimous patron to the poor proles who serve him. The whole tipping thing is something that goes back to aristocracy, and for some it's still an expression of power. Tipping has, in observation, not been shown to have any effect on the service a customer receives, that depends on the dedication of the staff. Still, the idea that you're the one who gets to reward the server for pleasing or displeasing is a huge thing for some people. see, I think tipping can help in some situtations, say if you're a regular who always tips 20/25% whenever you go there. but if I go to a random restaurant, it seems pretty obvious that I wouldn't be getting better service through tipping. The tip only comes at the end of the meal, so why would a server adjust their behavior beforehand? PS always try to tip 20% because waitstaff have a loving lovely job.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:50 |
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Cantorsdust posted:PS always try to tip 20% because waitstaff have a loving lovely job.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:52 |
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Cantorsdust posted:see, I think tipping can help in some situtations, say if you're a regular who always tips 20/25% whenever you go there. but if I go to a random restaurant, it seems pretty obvious that I wouldn't be getting better service through tipping. The tip only comes at the end of the meal, so why would a server adjust their behavior beforehand? i'm a regular at a chain restaurant nearby cause I go there with my dad p. often for lunch i always tip 15% because the cc machine offers that as a one button option, and we always get top notch service my dad's theory is that most customers don't even tip that much
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 21:56 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Maybe an attack on bitcoin just started, maybe bitcoin miners are crazy people: It's happening. Bitterdammerung Actually, I have no idea if this is true, since it seems weird that such an exploit would be possible. But I can hope some sort of lovely optimizaqtion in the bitcoin code has opened up a glaring vulnerability that will kill bitcoin.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:05 |
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Little Blackfly posted:It's happening. Your concern is that this powerful miner has found a way to mint blocks with few transactions. The thing is that miners are free to pick and choose what transactions they want to include in a block, and at that point it is a probabilities game weather they manage to mint the block before someone else does. Bottom line is, some pool operator is trolling the blockchain, which they are free to do. /u/BS_filter is suggesting that if block rewards get reduced to be insignificant next to the fees, then the miner might be incentivized by greed to include more transactions. That is not going to happen short term, but it sure as hell will happen naturally long term (if bitcoin doesn't crash and burn first) thanks to the reward getting halved every 4 years. Trolls will still be trolls. It's a fact of life on the internet. Don't get your panties in a bunch over it, and don't just dismiss analysis of the problem and proposed solutions just because they don't throw the baby out with the bath water
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:42 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Maybe an attack on bitcoin just started, maybe bitcoin miners are crazy people: UPDATE: Only 192 transactions has been confirmed in over 1,5 hour because of this pool.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:43 |
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Robawesome posted:UPDATE: Only 192 transactions has been confirmed in over 1,5 hour because of this pool. lol
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:45 |
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Robawesome posted:UPDATE: Only 192 transactions has been confirmed in over 1,5 hour because of this pool. it's funny how often they talk about no fees vs. how they take it as a given that if you don't include fees your transaction will never be confirmed
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:46 |
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indigi posted:it's funny how often they talk about no fees vs. how they take it as a given that if you don't include fees your transaction will never be confirmed also instant != ten minutes or possibly forever
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:47 |
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Cryptonerds enlighten us: are there any significant chances this is a hitherto unknown vulnerability in the code relating to the transaction numbers (those get hashed for verification right?) rather than just a big miner making a big splash with processing power? Like, could something as seemingly simple as just using powers of 2 predispose the hash to have more leading 0s?
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:52 |
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quote:[–]TreeMonger 1 point 1 hour ago
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:54 |
Robawesome posted:UPDATE: Only 192 transactions has been confirmed in over 1,5 hour because of this pool. pathetic little tramp posted:poo poo this is so obvious and so simple I can't believe no one's figured it out yet - with the way they're doing this, they'll easily mine all known bitcoins by July, I'd say now is the time to sell if you've been holding onto your coins at all.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 22:55 |
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quote:<MagicalTux> I'm talking about technical security To which the person replies. quote:<Aquent> you probably know them, but have you tried these guys: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/people/egs/ EMİN GÜN SİRER and Antonopoulos
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:02 |
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what cs problems does bitcoin "solve" exactly? jesus christ Samurai Quack posted:Cryptonerds enlighten us: are there any significant chances this is a hitherto unknown vulnerability in the code relating to the transaction numbers (those get hashed for verification right?) rather than just a big miner making a big splash with processing power?
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:06 |
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Phoenixan posted:what cs problems does bitcoin "solve" exactly? "how can i sell off my stock of terrible video cards and power supplies"
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:08 |
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bitcoin does not solve problems, it in fact creates problems
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:09 |
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"bitcoin's elegance is in its simplicity"? lol the protocol is many things, but I would hardly call it simple
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:11 |
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bitcoin
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:12 |
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I'm the bitcoin expert with 10 years of experience
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:17 |
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satoshi is our only hope - mark kerpoiples
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:18 |
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still occasionally wonder what happened to this guy
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:19 |
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Phoenixan posted:
knee breaking js a hell of a thing
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 23:20 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 08:44 |
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Samurai Quack posted:Cryptonerds enlighten us: are there any significant chances this is a hitherto unknown vulnerability in the code relating to the transaction numbers (those get hashed for verification right?) rather than just a big miner making a big splash with processing power? there's no obvious advantage to only do powers of 2 transactions, the double hashing kills basically any chance of you exploiting fixed input weaknesses one possibility is that someone has written some custom miner software and didn't manage to get the way transactions are combined into a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree to work properly - when the number of transactions are a power of 2 the algorithm is simpler than non-powers of 2 one possibility is that this is a deliberate choice by the miner coders another possibility is that the miners are producing blocks with non-number of 2 transactions too but since they put them together wrong they are ignored by the rest of the bitcoin network the second possibility is what i hope for because if thats true you are only seeing a fraction of the hashing power that the mystery miner has available and when they eventually fix their code youre gonna have a 50% attack on your hands
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