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Digital War posted:Here's the finished product. Yup.  I drove out to see it a few months back and was amazed.
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Someone needs to sneak over there in the middle of the night and put that thing out of its misery. Then when the fire dept. shows up to put it out, someone at the city eventually figures out that there wasn't a permit or inspection for it.
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Couldn't you just call up the local regulatory agencies and tattle-tale on it? Burning it down or just pushing it over might destroy the evidence of how terribly it's built.
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Leperflesh posted:just pushing it over might destroy the evidence of how terribly it's built Somehow...I feel like this might not be the case...
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Apr 25, 2014 05:31
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So we're having Veridian Homes build us a house. It's pretty exciting for I've never built a house before. Right now it's just an empty corner lot.
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Apr 25, 2014 12:46
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When is the last time you were sorely disappointed by nothing happening when there was supposed to be something happening?
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Suave Fedora posted:When is the last time you were sorely disappointed by nothing happening when there was supposed to be something happening? I can think of a few dates I went out where I was sorely disappointed by nothing happening. They said the time from starting to dig the hole until move in time is 4 months. Of course it all depends on selling my condo. Anyone want a condo in Madison, WI?
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Haha, good counter. I'm just ribbin' ya. I hope it goes as planned but the unfortunate reality (as it is in South Florida) is that these things often get delayed, at a minimum, by three months. I have a friend waiting on a house to be finished in August, and another relative in September, and the September one is still getting kickback from the county on permits.
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Apr 25, 2014 17:32
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4 months to build a house??? That seems crazy, unless it's "dropping off a mobile home on a slab and hooking up utilities".
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Baronjutter posted:4 months to build a house??? That seems crazy, unless it's "dropping off a mobile home on a slab and hooking up utilities". I know right? We'll see. It's this home: http://www.veridianhomes.com/build/plans/the-kennedy?sort=alpha-rev&show=12&page=1 I see all these horror stories in this thread and it makes sense to pay extra so I don't have to worry as much. 30 year warranty on water in the basement makes me thrilled.
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Apr 25, 2014 17:47
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Six to seven months is average, so I could see 4 for a template home. Things move a lot faster when you have made the same house 30 times.
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Apr 25, 2014 17:55
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So it's like a company that has set designs they know how to build really quickly?? That's an interesting concept. I guess if you've been building the same house over and over and have all the supply chains and work-flow down pat you could maybe pull it off. Never seen anything like that before. It's called a template home?
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Yeah basically they have like 20 set designs, but it's totally customizable. For instance, I'm adding 4 feet to the garage, removing the half wall up the stairs and putting in a railing system, removing the tub in the master bath and putting in a kick rear end shower, etc etc etc. The house might be 219k, but it's gonna be closer to 275k when it's all said and done. One of their engineers added all the changes to the schematics and printed them out for me.
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Apr 25, 2014 17:59
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On a semi-related note, one thing I've always kind of wanted to do is build a geodesic dome house from a kit. It just seems like it'd be a lot of fun to build, though I'm not so sure how usable all the square footage would be since a lot of the walls are curved.
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GreenNight posted:So we're having Veridian Homes build us a house. It's pretty exciting for I've never built a house before. Right now it's just an empty corner lot. You know this is the terrible construction thread, right? Was this just an introduction so we'll all know the backstory?
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uwaeve posted:You know this is the terrible construction thread, right? Was this just an introduction so we'll all know the backstory? Welp. I'll shut up now.
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GreenNight posted:Welp. I'll shut up now. I wasn't trying to be a dick, I honestly hope you don't have content for the thread  This may be the right place for general construction stuff, I don't know. It just hit me that it's like a grand setup: you've picked out your custom dream house. You're a courteous, pragmatic person introducing yourself so we know what's going on when it comes time to tell us about the bonus fecal fountain in your yard or how the garage wound up down the hill or something.
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Honestly, I've been following this thread for ages, and didn't have much to contribute. I am absolutely terrible at home improvement and not very handy. It's one big reason I'm going with a new build. I guess I can talk about the shirt I found in the dryer vent half way in the attic of my condo. Almost burned the drat place down.
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Baronjutter posted:4 months to build a house??? That seems crazy, unless it's "dropping off a mobile home on a slab and hooking up utilities". I've been watching some new homes come up next to the highway on my drive into work, and while I haven't been keeping careful track (nor seeing the state of the interior), they're easily beating 4 months. Maybe even 3. Checking now, they're Veridian. uwaeve posted:You know this is the terrible construction thread, right? Was this just an introduction so we'll all know the backstory? If it holds true to what I've heard of Veridian's reputation, he posted it in the right thread. (to reassure GreenNight a little bit, I've only heard from people who's opinions are definitely colored by their distaste for the cramped cookie cutter subdivision, which of course Veridian specializes in)
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Pretty much every house here is unique and designed by an architect and they're mostly pretty ok, yet still ugly cheap suburban looking poo poo gets built. I'm not even talking a matter of taste ugly, I mean objectively by every measure really badly designed ugly poo poo. It boggles my mind how someone can hire a trained architect, pay like 10k for the design, 500k for the land, and 400k for the construction, and out of all of that they decided "Huge cheap stucco box with off-the-shelf details inconsistently tacked to the outside in a horrible mix of eras and styles."
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Yeah, our lot is quite small, so I definitely understand. They didn't hide that fact and you can easily see it when you drive around the neighborhood. People have no room to complain about that though because they know it going in.
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Yeah, I don't understand how people can buy a house in a subdivision and then complain about the house being in a subdivision.
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Slugworth posted:Six to seven months is average, so I could see 4 for a template home. Things move a lot faster when you have made the same house 30 times. uwaeve posted:You know this is the terrible construction thread, right? Was this just an introduction so we'll all know the backstory? Just wait. Those houses are typically slapped together with pre-built walls and trusses. They're quite interesting as the age or burn.
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GreenNight posted:So we're having Veridian Homes build us a house. It's pretty exciting for I've never built a house before. Right now it's just an empty corner lot. Veridian?!  Yeah your house is likely going to belong in this thread. I would REALLY suggest visiting the construction site on a regular basis to make sure things don't get to messed up.I have lived in Madison, WI my whole life and the people that run Veridian, formerly Don Simon Homes and many others, have a reputation as being home "slap it together with cheap unskilled day labors-ers" rather than actual home builders. This review pretty much sums up most people's experience with a Veridian home.
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MH Knights posted:Veridian?! I've been in Madison the last 20 years or so. We'll see what happens. This is the first negative thing I've seen concerning them. I work with a half dozen or so folks who have had houses built by them and has nothing but good things to say. Might be moot though, because the lady that was suppose to buy my condo canceled after driving around the neighborhood saying that there was too many minorities for her liking.
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Too many minorities for her in Wisconsin? That's pretty impressive racism. Don't let the thread freak you out - Staying on top of the company as they build the place will ensure that it comes out OK. Contractors will only be as lazy as they think they can get away with. Find a friend that knows construction or even periodically hire an inspector to visit the site with you.
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When I hear Veridian, all I see is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRQieGR1iUU
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I have a couple of building design questions, and this seems the most appropriate place to ask. These are for the detached backyard workshop that I'm still slowly working on (current status: first round of planning approval failed, mostly because my site plan needs more details). In the interests of not having the resulting structure show up in this thread... 1) I belatedly realized that my plan doesn't call for eaves on the "ends" of the building (the 16' walls of the 16'x24' structure). There's eaves on the long walls, but not on the short. Is this a problem? We have a fairly mild climate (San Francisco Bay Area) but do get the occasional storm with driving rain. 2) Any recommendations on siding? My house is blue stucco, which I'm not about to try to replicate, but part of the approval process is that they want to make sure that the structure doesn't clash too much with the house. Why this matters considering the structure won't be visible from the street, I don't know. The siding will be placed on 3/4" sheathing, for what it's worth. 3) On that note, any opinions on OSB vs. plywood sheathing? 4) Currently my plan is to handle building construction first and then do electrical later, just in the interests of simplifying the main construction phase (I'll be contracting out the electrical work anyway). This will apparently require two planning approval processes. How stupid is this? Should I just bite the bullet and plan in the electrical system now? 5) On that note, I'd like to have accessible ceiling outlets so I don't have to run power cords into the middle of the room. However, the ceiling is a vaulted ceiling, with the rafters hanging from a ridge beam that's 12' off the ground. I guess I could run some 16' beams across the room at intervals and stick outlets on those, but that seems kind of hokey and defeating the purpose of having a nice open ceiling. Any ideas?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:3) On that note, any opinions on OSB vs. plywood sheathing? quote:5) On that note, I'd like to have accessible ceiling outlets so I don't have to run power cords into the middle of the room. However, the ceiling is a vaulted ceiling, with the rafters hanging from a ridge beam that's 12' off the ground. I guess I could run some 16' beams across the room at intervals and stick outlets on those, but that seems kind of hokey and defeating the purpose of having a nice open ceiling. Any ideas? Alternately, if you're going to have a slab poured, put some 2" conduit to strategic places in the floor and not have any electrical cluttering the floor or airspace where you don't want it. That's my plan, some day, if I don't get to do the raised floor like I want. And if I do, the electrical will STILL be under the floor surface. 
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It's cool, they used an "old work" box since the drop ceiling tiles are old. If it was spinning while it fell, the romex would probably hold it up while it thrashed around the room destroying itself.
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GreenNight posted:Yeah, our lot is quite small, so I definitely understand. They didn't hide that fact and you can easily see it when you drive around the neighborhood. People have no room to complain about that though because they know it going in. Hey, I don't know Veridian's work, but, based on looking at your link, and what I've seen from a friend's recent house-buying issues, you need to seriously ask them what the plan is, if you have a plumbing issue with those bathrooms. In one, the wet wall is in a walk-in closet, so it's easy to put in an access panel, but the other one, holy poo poo, the wet wall backs up on the main hallway. If you have a leak or something, and it's very possible, considering it's being put up in a loving hurry, you're doing demo-work to get at it.
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kizudarake posted:Hey, I don't know Veridian's work, but, based on looking at your link, and what I've seen from a friend's recent house-buying issues, you need to seriously ask them what the plan is, if you have a plumbing issue with those bathrooms. In one, the wet wall is in a walk-in closet, so it's easy to put in an access panel, but the other one, holy poo poo, the wet wall backs up on the main hallway. If you have a leak or something, and it's very possible, considering it's being put up in a loving hurry, you're doing demo-work to get at it. Good point. They do give a 30 year warranty against water in the basement and a 10 year against plumbing (and electrical) issues, but that's something to be aware of too.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:5) On that note, I'd like to have accessible ceiling outlets so I don't have to run power cords into the middle of the room. However, the ceiling is a vaulted ceiling, with the rafters hanging from a ridge beam that's 12' off the ground. I guess I could run some 16' beams across the room at intervals and stick outlets on those, but that seems kind of hokey and defeating the purpose of having a nice open ceiling. Any ideas? I say run beams (ceiling joists) so that you can store extra poo poo up in the rafters, copy the last picture fron this post. That post from AI's horrible failures thread is a little shop of horrors that belongs in this thread.
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kizudarake posted:Hey, I don't know Veridian's work, but, based on looking at your link, and what I've seen from a friend's recent house-buying issues, you need to seriously ask them what the plan is, if you have a plumbing issue with those bathrooms. In one, the wet wall is in a walk-in closet, so it's easy to put in an access panel, but the other one, holy poo poo, the wet wall backs up on the main hallway. If you have a leak or something, and it's very possible, considering it's being put up in a loving hurry, you're doing demo-work to get at it.
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Crotch Fruit posted:I say run beams (ceiling joists) so that you can store extra poo poo up in the rafters, copy the last picture fron this post. That post from AI's horrible failures thread is a little shop of horrors that belongs in this thread. Part of the goal of the vaulted ceiling was so that I wouldn't have ceiling joists; I want a nice open space here (and I also have specced in skylights in the roof plan; not much point for those if there's joists in the way!). I mean I guess I could have joists over only part of the space...ehh. Also, that workshop is even more of a deathtrap than my garage is. Cripes.
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