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It would be realyl funny if they just skipped everything in the last 2 books and next season was the finale.
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In the book they're all killed by Coldhands, and aren't a plot point at all. Lands of Always Winter... eternal, 17 year mystery, revealed at the end of a random episode in Season 3 when there is still bucketloads of book content to wade through...
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Apr 28, 2014 09:35
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kcroy posted:What the gently caress happens to the group at craster's in the books. are they just not mentioned? I had written them off, but perhaps that was clever misdirection by the grrm? Coldhands kills them. Since Coldhands is cut, they wrote a new bit for Jon.
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I would guess the Showrunners decided that a proper adaptation of Bran's Book 3 and 5 plotline would have sucked, the mutineers being killed offscreen by Coldhands is anti-climatic (especially with Rast's larger presence in the series), and that the possibility of Jon and Bolton's man running into Bran north of the wall is a tempting story idea.
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Apr 28, 2014 09:35
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Jesus, that was great. I'm all for any new material in Westeros I can get, so the Bran/Others changes were definitely welcome. Can't wait to see what the Mountain that Blogs says about this. Saeka fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 09:56
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I found the unison chant by Craster's wives to be super cheesy, other than explicitly showing the transformation of a baby into an other there wasn't any new lore really, in the books when Sam spirits Gilly and her boy away from the keep he is told by the other wives that "the boy's brothers are coming", and those are clearly the others. Though I agree that the show's changes to Bran and the mutineers makes some decent TV and is generally a good change.
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Apr 28, 2014 10:30
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It's just more dudes for Jon Snow to badassfully kill.
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Apr 28, 2014 10:54
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I found the unison chant by Craster's wives to be super cheesy, other than explicitly showing the transformation of a baby into an other there wasn't any new lore really, in the books when Sam spirits Gilly and her boy away from the keep he is told by the other wives that "the boy's brothers are coming", and those are clearly the others. Its more the fact the guy with horns was confirmed as the Night's King, all but confirming a few theories and killing off a few others, as well as cementing the Others as a definite organised group etc.
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Apr 28, 2014 11:16
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Well well well. If I'd be Gurm, I'd be making GBS threads myself right now. I think the story changes so far are a sign of the show's writers' mistrust of Gurm and his ability to complete his own saga. I think they have taken an obvious choice to steer the show into the direction they see fit, with less regard to the books because they know by the time season 6 will start filming, they are on their own with no "source material" to use.
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Apr 28, 2014 11:27
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Yeah they're almost fully into completely new territory with some of the plot threads and books ahead with others.
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Apr 28, 2014 11:32
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Pretty interesting little change, or advance spoiler. Whatever we're calling it. Nice to see Darth Maul getting work.
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Apr 28, 2014 11:40
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Not to mention the entire Stannis - Jon + Winterfell storyline is shot to poo poo as Jon knows Bran is alive. Also this random Bolton chap at the wall (Locke?). No Coldhands has been confirmed by the actor that plays Sam. Possibly no Victarion, and Asha is loving off around the entire continent of Westeros with 50 men to march on the Dreadfort (LOL). Also loving hilarious how through a series of stupid scene jumps and lines, the following was revealed: - Blatantly obvious who killed Joffrey (lol this was just retarded, why did they make it so explicit) - Blatantly obvious Sansa will kill Littlefinger ("Shes not a killer... yet Cut to Sansa looking at Littlefinger") - Obvious Jon won't kill Ygritte, it'll be Random Orphan Boy Whose Dad Ygritte Killed - he's a "great archer" and they did a ton of lingering shots of him getting a good look at her. So yeah, I'm done.
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Apr 28, 2014 12:03
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Wait so the Wildlings who went over the wall still haven't attacked Castle Black or what?
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Nope. Supposedly, since Jon escaped back to Castle Black and they've lost their element of surprise, they trying to lure the crows out into the open using village raids. Some are theorizing that the show writers are going to have both sides of the attack happen simultaneously.
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Apr 28, 2014 12:19
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Lord Twisted posted:Also loving hilarious how through a series of stupid scene jumps and lines, the following was revealed: Yeah, I gringed at those scenes as well. Why were they done in such a manner? Usually good shows will leave a lot of questions unanswered and be as unambiguous as possible, but this time they decided to spell two key events out for the viewers. I can't see any good reason for this.
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Apr 28, 2014 13:34
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The show has finally spoiled the books! RIP A Song of Ice and Fire. Love live the Game of Thrones.
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Apr 28, 2014 13:41
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Oh poo poo I better go watch the new episodes fast before everything is revealed SPOILERS GUYS GEEZ 
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Apr 28, 2014 13:43
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Those who post often in TVIV know that they definitely have to make who killed Joffrey as explicit as possible.
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Shoehead posted:Wait so the Wildlings who went over the wall still haven't attacked Castle Black or what? They're biding their time 'til the season finale.
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Apr 28, 2014 15:07
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Lycus posted:Those who post often in TVIV know that they definitely have to make who killed Joffrey as explicit as possible. Yeah, I don't fault the showrunners for that. Even with poo poo being explicitly spelled out, viewers still find ways to not understand what the hell is going on. Of all the "mystery" murders (or attempted ones) in the series, which one is the only one to be clearly spelled out? The Jon Arryn one? Joffrey's is more connect the easy to see dots, and the Bran assassination attempt was a long after the fact supposition.
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Apr 28, 2014 15:35
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I just want TV watchers to come in here to try and spoil us on the books as the series progresses. I don't know about anyone else, but after all these years of waiting for the damned books to be finished I look forward to any confirmed spoilers.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I just want TV watchers to come in here to try and spoil us on the books as the series progresses. I don't know about anyone else, but after all these years of waiting for the damned books to be finished I look forward to any confirmed spoilers. Pod pops Brienne's cherry. You heard it hear first.
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Apr 28, 2014 16:30
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I couldn't care less about spoilers in general, and ASoIaF in particular. I'll read the books regardless so give me all the spoilers u can handle.
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unlimited shrimp posted:I couldn't care less about spoilers in general, and ASoIaF in particular. I'll read the books regardless so give me all the spoilers u can handle. death is certain
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unlimited shrimp posted:I couldn't care less about spoilers in general, and ASoIaF in particular. I'll read the books regardless so give me all the spoilers u can handle. A spoiler is proof that the story is making progress. I welcome this.
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Apr 28, 2014 16:45
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I haven't seen any of the show, but if it diverges from the books and goes its own way, I'll cheer it on. OhYeah posted:
He does that anyway.
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Kylaer posted:I haven't seen any of the show, but if it diverges from the books and goes its own way, I'll cheer it on. They sat with GRRM and forced him to tell them how the story ends.
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Apr 28, 2014 17:32
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End of episode White Walker looked like a blue Darth Maul. Immersion ruined.
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rypakal posted:I think book readers just officially got spoiled. Glad we don't have to wait 3 years. Lord Twisted posted:Well that's pretty crazy. Looks like winds of winter has already begun. Yeah, I almost shat on my dick when I saw that scene. Lord Twisted posted:- Blatantly obvious Sansa will kill Littlefinger ("Shes not a killer... yet Cut to Sansa looking at Littlefinger") You're probably right, I'm a retard so I didn't get these when I watched the show. But what I really want to see is more Diana Rigg.
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Apr 28, 2014 18:07
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http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night%27s_King I totally don't remember that at all, guess it was important...
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I figured that cut-to-Sansa was merely ironic emphasis on the fact that she was indeed involved in Joffrey's murder, don't know if it's such a blatant 'she's gonna Littlefinger' moment.
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Apr 28, 2014 18:12
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I found the unison chant by Craster's wives to be super cheesy, other than explicitly showing the transformation of a baby into an other there wasn't any new lore really, in the books when Sam spirits Gilly and her boy away from the keep he is told by the other wives that "the boy's brothers are coming", and those are clearly the others. I just hate the fact that both direwolves were captured so nonchalantly. That ending white walker scene was pretty awesome though, it was like a live action Frazetta painting.
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Apr 28, 2014 18:18
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Oh yeah that was confusing, why do they have ghost? Did Jon not take him with him when he joined the wildlings?
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I figured that cut-to-Sansa was merely ironic emphasis on the fact that she was indeed involved in Joffrey's murder, don't know if it's such a blatant 'she's gonna Littlefinger' moment. It's still pretty obvious she's going to end up killing Littlefinger though.
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CPFortest posted:It's still pretty obvious she's going to end up killing Littlefinger though. She'll hire a Faceless Man to do the job.
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Jeffrey posted:http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night%27s_King 
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Elman posted:She'll hire a Faceless Man to do the job. Arya will probably could kill both.
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my thoughts exactly
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Apr 28, 2014 18:27
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Why is she farting through her eye? Could someone fix this pic?
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Lord Twisted posted:- Blatantly obvious who killed Joffrey (lol this was just retarded, why did they make it so explicit) It's more explicit and drawn out in the books where Sansa plays 20 questions with Littlefinger about it on the boat or wherever the gently caress.
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