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except you're forgetting about towns E and F that insist on the road connecting to them despite being 20 miles out of the way in opposite directions, oh and the speed limit has to drop by 30mph when it goes through town E
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Magic Underwear posted:City A and City D want a roadway built between them and want to split the cost fairly. City B, directly between A and D pleads poverty and won't give any money toward it even though they will get use of the road. What are they going to do, spend extra money just to avoid city B? City C is slightly out of the way but wants the road to detour to them, but they are poor too. City D is willing to put in way more money than anyone else, but only on the condition that the construction of the whole road is done by a company owned by the mayor's brother. The mayor of D also wants to route around B because the mayor of B mistook the mayor of D for a valet at a party 8 years ago. the road is finished 3 years late and severely overbudget, and bypasses B and C entirely, out of spite. this is why roads are stupid and in the glorious bitcoin future everyone will use trains. nobody ever asks "who will build the tracks?" because the answer is freedom, and they're scared. also buy your tickets before you get on the train because if your transaction doesn't confirm before you get to your station, you get
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rjmccall posted:except you're forgetting about towns E and F that insist on the road connecting to them despite being 20 miles out of the way in opposite directions, oh and the speed limit has to drop by 30mph when it goes through town E also town E's entire income is based on giving out tickets from that sudden speed change
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May 24, 2014 22:08
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fortunately you can shoot everyone in town E for initiating force against your sovereign geo metro
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May 24, 2014 22:09
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rjmccall posted:lol if you think this isn't the standard for local government projects anyway
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Magic Underwear posted:City A and City D want a roadway built between them and want to split the cost fairly. City B, directly between A and D pleads poverty and won't give any money toward it even though they will get use of the road. What are they going to do, spend extra money just to avoid city B? City C is slightly out of the way but wants the road to detour to them, but they are poor too. City D is willing to put in way more money than anyone else, but only on the condition that the construction of the whole road is done by a company owned by the mayor's brother. The mayor of D also wants to route around B because the mayor of B mistook the mayor of D for a valet at a party 8 years ago. the road is finished 3 years late and severely overbudget, and bypasses B and C entirely, out of spite. rjmccall posted:lol if you think this isn't the standard for local government projects anyway
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May 24, 2014 22:57
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What kind of voluntaryist utopia has mayors anyway?
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FMguru posted:the current state of planning for californias bullet train project is exactly like this except cities A-F are all suing to stop the train from being built anyway because reasons
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rjmccall posted:lol if you think this isn't the standard for local government projects anyway i think he was arguing in favor of federal government roadways
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west coast needs at least 20th century railroad mainlines badly lmbo
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May 24, 2014 23:13
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people just automatically attach a negative stigma to taxes
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May 24, 2014 23:38
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funny thing is californians voted for it in 2008
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there's a lawsuit going on right now about how the rail planning is now technically under partial federal jurisdiction, and thus might be exempted from strict local environmental and economic impact laws and i'm in the camp that's all "good, just build the fucker already goddamn"
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it's not like it's a complex system • one line going from sd-la-sf, with a junction midway between la and sf • a spur from somewhere along the northern half of the line to sacramento • a spur from somewhere along the southern half of the line to vegas fucker will pay for itself, just loving do it god
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Eegah posted:funny thing is californians voted for it funny thing is that the straight line from sf to la is basically all mountains so theyre routing it through the central valley, where it will have to zig and zag and make regular stops in order for them to get the rights of way they need. plus once it gets close to sf it has to slow down as it passes through fancy neighborhoods like palo alto. the whole thing will cost several hundred billion dollars and be no cheaper to travel or take less time than flying or driving i want a statewide hsr system so badly i can taste it but this thing is a lemon
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FMguru posted:they might - might - break ground on the first segment of it by 2020. incidentally, the first segment will run from fresno to merced or something like that gently caress local concerns
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May 24, 2014 23:52
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we should build a giant machine to just bore an enormous undergroudn tunnel underneath all of these nimby fuckos
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i voted against that poo poo when it was on the ballot what was the original cost estimate, like 30 billion? did anyone ever believe that
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Linguica posted:i voted against that poo poo when it was on the ballot no. i didn't believe it and i still voted for it.
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duTrieux. posted:we should build a giant machine to just bore an enormous undergroudn tunnel underneath all of these nimby fuckos
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May 24, 2014 23:54
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FMguru posted:just reuse parts of this: http://idlewords.com/2007/04/the_alameda-weehawken_burrito_tunnel.htm exactly, it's not like the technology doesn't exist
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May 24, 2014 23:55
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wrap people up in warm blankets that smell of flour and butter and then load them into pneumatic tubes that get them where they need to go
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FMguru posted:just reuse parts of this: http://idlewords.com/2007/04/the_alameda-weehawken_burrito_tunnel.htm seriously though everybody needs to read all of these words (and there are a lot of them) quote:By the time they reach Cleveland the burritos are fully heated through and traveling uphill at about twice the speed of sound. A series of induction coils spaced through central Pennsylvania repeats the magnetic process in reverse, draining momentum from the burritos and turning it into electrical power (though Weehawken residents still recall the great blackout of 2002, when computers running the braking coils shut down and for four hours burritos traced graceful arcs into the East River, glowing like faint red sparks in the night).
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duTrieux. posted:we should build a giant machine to just bore an enormous undergroudn tunnel underneath all of these nimby fuckos on the other hand it was digging a cars-only tunnel so maybe it was just karma
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Crust First posted:also buy your tickets before you get on the train because if your transaction doesn't confirm before you get to your station, you get i read a book once where gunslinger-librarians ruled the world after an emp war left the world without electricity or computers in the book the trains ran on human pedaling power and the price of your ticket varied according to how much you pedaled during the ride
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Heavy Zed posted:What kind of voluntaryist utopia has mayors anyway? all of them they're called warlords though
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Thesoro posted:don't do this, we tried it in seattle and some surveyor missed a six inch pipe so now the machine's broken and stuck for 18+ months locating pipes after the fact if they weren't properly recorded is a shitshow, even with the tech we have today coulda just been a lovely surveyor though
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Samurai Quack posted:locating pipes after the fact if they weren't properly recorded is a shitshow, even with the tech we have today BLOCKCHAIN
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high speed rail is pretty much useless at most distances, since you can generally get along just fine slightly slower
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Samurai Quack posted:locating pipes after the fact if they weren't properly recorded is a shitshow, even with the tech we have today
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Thesoro posted:don't do this, we tried it in seattle and some surveyor missed a six inch pipe so now the machine's broken and stuck for 18+ months as an employee of a company that makes nde equipment, i'd like to thank you and all other moron construction companies that damage pipes 
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Greyhawk posted:i read a book once where gunslinger-librarians ruled the world after an emp war left the world without electricity or computers swoleocracy errybody got sweet glutes in the future
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seattle shouldn't have decided to raise its street level up by dumping trash and debris and piling dirt on it in the first place tbh
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Greyhawk posted:i read a book once where gunslinger-librarians ruled the world after an emp war left the world without electricity or computers ugh now ive remembered that Revolution was a tv show and now i feel ill
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hobbesmaster posted:as an employee of a company that makes nde equipment, i'd like to thank you and all other moron construction companies that damage pipes edit: like i'm sure it got damaged when the 60ft diameter boring machine clunked into it but that's not rly the problem
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Adult Sword Owner posted:ugh now ive remembered that Revolution was a tv show and now i feel ill theres totally nothing implausible about a virus on a usb drive preventing electricity from working, jeez
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Install Windows posted:theres totally nothing implausible about a virus on a usb drive preventing electricity from working, jeez it was actually AI networked nanomachines
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Thesoro posted:boring machine
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FMguru posted:i thought these were mostly used to generate your posts
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wait, I thought the pipe that broke the tunneling machine was from a test bore to make sure that the tunneling machine could operate in that area
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