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rejutka posted:No. You can tell ICE loves travel journals and such as the book is a pretty interesting travel journal but the story stuff is pretty inconsequential or presented as such. Basically the most interesting part of B&B is the chapter intro blurbs. Those come from actual travel journals. I can't believe a book that heavily features Kallor could have been this boring. I might be the only one but my favorite ICE novel is Stonewielder, probably mostly on account of having only one plotline that goes nowhere and it being a minor one.
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I just finished Blood and Bone myself yesterday actually. I still think OST is his best book. I agree there was a lot of interminable slogging through jungle. The Osserc storyline was pretty inscrutable too. I didn't feel bored at all though, but there could definitely have been more revelation or closure at the end. Eh I won't bore you with a book report. It was a par ICE book.
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May 31, 2014 22:36
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I still think OST is his best book.
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May 31, 2014 22:59
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uh zip zoom posted:
Everyone wins.
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May 31, 2014 23:00
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Blood and Bone was a letdown for me only in the sense that it nudged along the meandering Crimson Guard plot. It was really just a book about fleshing out a part of the world that has been mentioned but not really explored, and as an exploration of the setting I thought it was really good. I think it's the best-written of Esslemont's and the best at capturing the feeling of the main series, even if it was skimpy on big revelations. I'll be less forgiving of the book if Assail proves to be a bust, but I personally enjoyed B&B a lot.
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Habibi posted:Story wise, yeah. I think his writing was better, from a technical perspective, in BnB. Yup exactly. I noticed too he has his pet words like Erikson's turgid: Cyclopean
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uh zip zoom posted:I like the "who would win in a fight" game. Let's play: Quick Ben, hands down. I just don't see Sormo knocking three dragons out of the sky. Apsalar, again hands down. I don't remember anything Lostara Yil did that was particularly impressive. As the OP says, though: there are too many wor'ds, so I may be forgetting something. Do you mean old, alive Hedge or new, Ascendant Hedge with an unlimited supply of cussers? If the former, then Apt. If the latter, I'd go even odds on Hedge. Rallick if he gets the drop on Baudin. Baudin in a straight up fight. Depends on who's on home turf. If on neutral ground, probably Kruppe given he seems to have some inside knowledge into the workings of Ascendants.
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Ynglaur posted:
Lostra was the one who killed a bunch of short tails when they busted through the heavies. It was described as a 'Mist of blood' by the guy who was laying on he ground wounded. I think that was it anyway.
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Spermy Smurf posted:Lostra was the one who killed a bunch of short tails when they busted through the heavies. It was described as a 'Mist of blood' by the guy who was laying on he ground wounded. I think that was it anyway. Didn't Shadowthrone say that Lostara was one of the best Shadow Dancers he had ever seen? I think I remember something like that being said to her in a conversation. Or she said she stopped doing it because reasons. The details area bit hazy, but I think that was two separate conversations.
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Spermy Smurf posted:Lostra was the one who killed a bunch of short tails when they busted through the heavies. It was described as a 'Mist of blood' by the guy who was laying on he ground wounded. I think that was it anyway. Wasn't that Cotillion possessing her, though?
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Jun 1, 2014 08:00
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anilEhilated posted:Wasn't that Cotillion possessing her, though? I honestly don't remember.
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Blood and Bone has Old Man Moon who seems pretty boss.
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uh zip zoom posted:I like the "who would win in a fight" game. Let's play: Which Apsalar are you talking about? First Heroes Apsalar or Cotillion-host Aspalar....either Apsalar would win versus Lostara Yil, so Apsalar vs. Apsalar? Kruppe vs Tehol is missing a fighter. You need to add in Iskaral Pust to make it a 3 man(Wits Only. No Weapons, No Warrens, No Wifes) fight. the real winner in this version would be the reader
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tuluk posted:
Forget all this prequal nonsense. I just want an alternate reality book about the three of them trying to run the Letherii Empire.
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tuluk posted:Kruppe vs Tehol is missing a fighter. You need to add in Iskaral Pust to make it a 3 man(Wits Only. No Weapons, No Warrens, No Wifes) fight. Also no donkeys. In my mind I am imaging this as an hilarious ineffectual slap fight where the combatants gets dragged apart when it gets pathetic enough.
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Cardiac posted:Also no donkeys. You are literally cutting the comedic value of the fight by 3000% Serious Thunderdome business: WhiskyJack vs Coltaine
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Cardiac posted:Also no donkeys. Agreed. Mainly because the only animal I remember being around tehol are plucked chickens. And plucked chicken vs. donkey vs. maybe-shadowthrone donkey is a gamebreaker. quantumfoam fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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pakman posted:Didn't Shadowthrone say that Lostara was one of the best Shadow Dancers he had ever seen? I think I remember something like that being said to her in a conversation. Or she said she stopped doing it because reasons. The details area bit hazy, but I think that was two separate conversations. No, he said that to Apsalar after she had torn through the Claw to exact revenge on Pearl. anilEhilated posted:Wasn't that Cotillion possessing her, though? Yes. E: QB, Apsalar, toss-up, Baudin, draw when they both pass out. Habibi fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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tuluk posted:Kruppe vs Tehol is missing a fighter. You need to add in Iskaral Pust to make it a 3 man(Wits Only. No Weapons, No Warrens, No Wifes) fight. Iskaral Pust is the judge. Also, I mean dead hedge and post gardens of the moon Apsalar. surely these fools won't notice the ad hoc manner in which I create this hypothetical contest
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uh zip zoom posted:Iskaral Pust is the judge. Also, I mean dead hedge and post gardens of the moon Apsalar. surely these fools won't notice the ad hoc manner in which I create this hypothetical contest Placing Iskaral Pust as the judge would end with Iskaral Pust declaring himself the winner in every match, regardless of the actual participants or outcome ....just like how Iskaral ended up the High Magus of High House Shadow. Mixing fact and conjecture at the same time is sure to cloud the issue sufficently to insure total victory
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anilEhilated posted:Wasn't that Cotillion possessing her, though? From my recollection Yil was the best shadow dancer that Cotillion had seen. During the fight she did get possessed. She was still good, just not that good. Apsalar wins
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I was in a rush this morning and set my copy of Reaper's Gale on top of my car as I was loading it. And then I drove away. Didn't realize it until I was already far down the road and had no chance to turn back. Sigh. So... has anyone read the eBooks lately? When I last checked on them, they were full of typos and formatting errors which made them pretty annoying to read. Is there a newer/better version I can get? I have an iPhone with all the relevant apps, so iTunes/Kindle/Nook are all open to me.
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the later malazan series ebooks had better OCR scans and way less typos. early malazan ebooks have horrible formatting & OCR scanning typos. note: unsure if amazon.com's "the Malazan empire" ebook collection fixed the earlier books formatting problems.
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Aranan posted:I was in a rush this morning and set my copy of Reaper's Gale on top of my car as I was loading it. And then I drove away. Didn't realize it until I was already far down the road and had no chance to turn back. Sigh. I bought the entire series after it came out. There were very few OCR errors until the third book, that thing is just riddled with errors. House of Chains as 0 so far that I've noticed
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There are a bunch of errors in the first three (like Toc the Younger turning into Toe the Younger occasionally), but it's not a big problem imo
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It's not a big problem if you're rereading the series, but it would be a major pain in the rear end for a first timer. I heard they fixed them for the complete release, but the original one was pretty goddamn terrible.
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I've used nothing but ebooks since starting the series a year or two ago. The versions from Google have not had any errors I've noticed. I read fairly quickly, so it's possible my eye simply skips errors and fills then in, but I haven't found it distracting, for whatever that's worth.
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I purchased all of them except for the first one from Amazon and I have no complaints. They even show me which passages are highlighted most often.
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Ynglaur posted:I've used nothing but ebooks since starting the series a year or two ago. The versions from Google have not had any errors I've noticed. I read fairly quickly, so it's possible my eye simply skips errors and fills then in, but I haven't found it distracting, for whatever that's worth. I started this year with the Google versions and haven't had any problem either. Holy poo poo I am having a tough time getting through Midnight Tides.
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The digital versions have been revised at least twice. For example GotM got a new pass probably taken from the 10th anniversary reissue. My wife worked on the kindle and when it released there was basically no selection at all. I remember when there weren't even kindle editions of any Erikson work :grandpa:
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Did they actually release an update to the Kindle versions or just use the revised versions for the omnibus? My versions are still rife with errors
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Well I don't know for sure, but if you have annotations on a copy you've downloaded (even last page read iirc) it won't overwrite with a new one since the locations could all get offset.
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anilEhilated posted:only one plotline that goes nowhere and it being a minor one. That does sound like Stonewielder, yes.
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Tooter posted:From my recollection Yil was the best shadow dancer that Cotillion had seen. Unfortunately this isn't a dance-off. (I believe Cotillion was talking about actual dancing, not killing, he saw Lostara dancing for him when he visited the temple).
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bucketybuck posted:Unfortunately this isn't a dance-off. The dance is a martial art.
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anilEhilated posted:The dance is a martial art. Yes, but there's a difference between theory and practice
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:For example GotM got a new pass probably taken from the 10th anniversary reissue. That's actually the old one  GotM has two versions on paper, the original UK, which was used for 10th anniversary too, and a revised one for Tor.
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Habibi posted:Yes, but there's a difference between theory and practice She seems pretty drat good in practice too. I still think Not Apsalar would win though.
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Abalieno posted:That's actually the old one lol, figures. What's the difference? Re typeset for the print edition and new OCR for the ebook?
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Masonity posted:She seems pretty drat good in practice too. Yes, that's the idea.
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