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Redgrendel2001 posted:The Modi article in the New Statesmen by William Dalrymple is the most extensive, detail-oriented piece I've seen out there. Well that's way worse than I thought it was.
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feedmegin posted:Expats everywhere tend to be more nationalistic than people in their home country, that's not just a Hindu/Indian thing. When you live somewhere it's just, you know, there; it's your day to day. When it's the Old Country that you probably sometimes feel homesick for but on the other hand don't spend much time in, it's easier to romanticise it. Well yes, that's what I meant with the first bit in parentheses. The thing is that Congress is technically a "nationalist party" in the vaguest cultural sense, it grew out of THE main nationalist organization of the early 20th century and has a long pedigree. So some extra explanation is required as to why the expats are going for this exclusive, Hindu-chauvinist version of nationalism. Obviously, dissatisfaction with corruption in the Congress party is a factor, but it's probably not the only one. shrike82 posted:Yup, the Economist, neoliberal paper of note, refused to endorse Modi due to his involvement in the anti Muslim pogrom. I'm not sure Western media has been that fawning of him. That article was really funny though. "We'd love to support Modi because of his gestures towards liberalization, but unfortunately there's all this religious conflict in his background. It really is a shame though because we would really love to endorse him, based on his economic policies!!! Also, the alternatives suck almost as much as him. But we regret that he is too chauvinist, and thus we cannot do that in good conscience. Just saying though, we would totally endorse him otherwise."
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goatse.cx posted:What about the opposing 'Kerala model'? Can someone familiar with the subject elaborate on it a bit? The Kerala model is based on redistribution, on state-directed development. Despite a relatively low per capita income, Kerala has achieved a lot of progress on HDI indicators over last ~30 years. Literacy rate of 91% (national rate is 65%), increases in life expectancy, drops in infant mortality, etc. That being said, state still has high unemployment, is not very industrialized, and sends a lot of workers to the Gulf. Gulf remittances play a large role in Kerala's economy. I'm in a bit of a hurry, so I can't source each individually, but here are some resources: Basics about Kerala Model Kerala & Gulf Workers
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# ? May 19, 2014 16:04 |
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If India could impose the Kerala model plus industrialization and increase exports relative to IT and other services then they'd be in a good place. Nehru briefly tried that somewhat, but in a stop-and-go and low-effort way.
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# ? May 19, 2014 17:39 |
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So did anyone watch John Oliver's show on HBO last night? He has on Fareed Zakahria where he talked about how Modi is not like those other third world political parties that promise things to people or offer subsides, a soft socialism (I swear to god he said that) instead Modi is offering growth.
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# ? May 19, 2014 17:53 |
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OwlBot 2000 posted:If India could impose the Kerala model plus industrialization and increase exports relative to IT and other services then they'd be in a good place. Nehru briefly tried that somewhat, but in a stop-and-go and low-effort way. Any model which depends on selling part of your population into slavery in the Gulf is not a good model.
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# ? May 19, 2014 17:55 |
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KomradeX posted:So did anyone watch John Oliver's show on HBO last night? He has on Fareed Zakahria where he talked about how Modi is not like those other third world political parties that promise things to people or offer subsides, a soft socialism (I swear to god he said that) instead Modi is offering growth. He's a plagiarist hack who studied under Samuel Huntington, what did you expect? Badger of Basra posted:Any model which depends on selling part of your population into slavery in the Gulf is not a good model. Obviously the dependence on Gulf migrants should be offset by rapid, state-led industrialization and ISI. OwlBot 2000 fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 19, 2014 |
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OwlBot 2000 posted:He's a plagiarist hack who studied under Samuel Huntington, what did you expect? Yeah I know that it's still just shocking to hear people say stupid poo poo like this and it goes unquestioned
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# ? May 19, 2014 18:05 |
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From our favorite state of India, Uttar Pradesh. So, it's hot, and the power system starts to break down under the strain, what do you do?
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 12:56 |
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SpannerX posted:From our favorite state of India, Uttar Pradesh.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 13:13 |
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Torka posted:"Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!" I wonder what would in a Western country in 116+ F heat without air conditioning (not a dry heat either).
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 13:49 |
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Ardennes posted:I wonder what would in a Western country in 116+ F heat without air conditioning (not a dry heat either). I've done it, on a ship in Cuba and Trinidad loading dusty cargo so we couldn't even open our portholes. For a month. Didn't start burning the ship because the a/c didn't work. That having been said, I can understand why they did it. Any power that was still working was probably going to corrupt officials to keep them cool. Power to the people!
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 13:55 |
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OwlBot 2000 posted:Obviously the dependence on Gulf migrants should be offset by rapid, state-led industrialization and ISI. ISI is exactly the reverse of the macroeconomic effect of remittances, surely, where one exports labour working at depressed wages and receives a foreign inflow for it. so these are not substitutes. where is the inflow going to come from?
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 17:40 |
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I'll just leave this here Punished by axe: Bonded labour in India's brick kilns
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What the ever living gently caress? What the ever living gently caress?
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