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chrisoya posted:The AI will be able to reconstruct you based on the frozen bits and any evidence if your existence that remains when it goes online. It is really amazingly ironic that a man who rejects the idea of infinity as a mathematical concept wants to live literally forever.
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potatocubed posted:I'm sure I read somewhere in one of his treatises that because we can recover data from a crashed hard drive, one day we will be able to recover the data from a crash-frozen brain.  Yeah. Because the human brain, much like a hard-drive, consists of a storage medium neatly separated from the read-write mechanism and the logical units. 
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Patrick Spens posted:That's unfair, trepanation was surgery, and likely helped with recovery from traumatic brain injury. It was crude, and likely failed often, but it did have some uses. Good point, I'm sorry. Better example: Compare modern pharmaceutical medicine to alchemical medicine, where you could get healing draughts full of lead, arsenic, and cinnabar!
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Swan Oat posted:Yudkowski began his monthlong vacation in the wilderness of North Carolina to finish up his stupid fanfiction yesterday. Google tells me he first summons his Carl Sagan patronus at the end of chapter 45. But read on to chapter 46, because that's where he starts getting snotty about it, and Yud has Dumbledore be in awe of it, and they start talking about him as if he'd discovered new magic which he has the right and privilege not to teach anyone else about! If you're looking for more obnoxiousness, check out how he thinks an adult should handle "bullies" in a position of authority over you. Chapter 18 demonstrates that his Harry Potter, whom he keeps insisting is supposed to be fully adult in every way except physically, should throw a screaming hissy fit at the first sign of a teacher not "respecting" you. And then he continues to throw a hissy fit at Snape's boss, and then he fake apologizes, but goes right back to being completely insubordinate and throwing temper tantrums repeatedly.
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Iunnrais posted:Google tells me he first summons his Carl Sagan patronus at the end of chapter 45. But read on to chapter 46, because that's where he starts getting snotty about it, and Yud has Dumbledore be in awe of it, and they start talking about him as if he'd discovered new magic which he has the right and privilege not to teach anyone else about! If I remember correctly, MoR Harry was pulled out of regular school and home schooled because he bit a teacher when she was wrong, and steadfastly believes it was the right thing to do with the hysterical justification of "but she was wrong!"
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pentyne posted:If I remember correctly, MoR Harry was pulled out of regular school and home schooled because he bit a teacher when she was wrong, and steadfastly believes it was the right thing to do with the hysterical justification of "but she was wrong!" That is a realistic portrayal of a certain kind of child, which makes me suspect it's autobiographical.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:The thing about cryonics that I don't get is, even assuming that it can work reliably, how the hell are they going to get me frozen before my brain tissue starts degrading? That takes what, five minutes? The only thing that I can think of is freezing while I'm still alive, and that's impossible since they'd still have to replace all of my blood with antifreeze (probably not a five-minute process) before starting the freezing itself. To be fair, you can be recovered after like an hour of drowning if you fell in barely-above-freezing water. Mammalian diving reflex is one hell of a drug. Tunicate fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Iunnrais posted:Google tells me he first summons his Carl Sagan patronus at the end of chapter 45. But read on to chapter 46, because that's where he starts getting snotty about it, and Yud has Dumbledore be in awe of it, and they start talking about him as if he'd discovered new magic which he has the right and privilege not to teach anyone else about!
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Sham bam bamina! posted:The only thing that I can think of is freezing while I'm still alive, and that's impossible since they'd still have to replace all of my blood with antifreeze (probably not a five-minute process) before starting the freezing itself. Here you go.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:That is a realistic portrayal of a certain kind of child, which makes me suspect it's autobiographical. Well, yeah, you'd expect a smart child with relatively mild autism/aspergers to do something like that and have no concept of why its considered inappropriate, but said child is also not going to be a super-being capable of rationally explaining everything and dismantling an entire society that's existed for centuries at the age of 11. I mean, Yud must have had parents at some point when he was at elementary/middle school age. He never speaks of being home-schooled, there's no indication of when he left schooling besides his claims of getting a 1410 on the SAT at 11, he founded his AI think tank in 2000 (at age 22), so does anyone really know what he was doing from the ages of 11-22? ...Does he think he was at Hogwarts? I wouldn't be surprised. pentyne fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Antivehicular posted:This is a perfect multiple-choice question of "what about this scenario is worst?": You're ignoring the probability of the fan going all Misery on him.
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Yeah, that's a piece about Alcor, the company that Yudkowsky recommends for all aspiring head-freezers. E: here is the book a former president of Alcor wrote about people sticking cans of tuna to the heads of the dead people they froze, and something about baseball bats? Anyway, it doesn't look good for you once you're in the vat. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003156B2C?pc_redir=1408884189&robot_redir=1 E2: Huh, apparently the author has been sued for defamation (obviously), but the lawsuit was dismissed because he went independently bankrupt. http://www.alcor.org/press/response.html SolTerrasa fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Aug 28, 2014 01:58
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LaughMyselfTo posted:You're ignoring the probability of the fan going all Misery on him. I am unable to imagine any of his fans going violent on him, largely because I'm pretty sure all of them look down on physical pursuits as insufficiently rational and haven't any idea how to use a knife for anything more dangerous than a steak.
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LaughMyselfTo posted:You're ignoring the probability of the fan going all Misery on him. I was going to make a joke about the fan torturing him to demand that he bring Hermione's troll-mauled, cryogenically-preserved corpse back to life, but I'm sure that's actually how the story is going to end: Harry triumphing over death, bringing Hermione back for a big cinematic kiss! Unfortunately, tragedy strikes when Hermione reveals that the troll touched her breast while mauling her and Harry concludes that this incidental sexual assault has decreased Hermione's mate utility value enough that he must go with the thankfully rape-free Luna instead.
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Now I wonder how big the overlap between LessWrong cultists and MRAs is. Yudkowsky seems like the kind of guy to buy hard into the  stuff.
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Cardiovorax posted:Now I wonder how big the overlap between LessWrong cultists and MRAs is. Yudkowsky seems like the kind of guy to buy hard into the There's a decent contigent of PUAs at least.
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Cardiovorax posted:Now I wonder how big the overlap between LessWrong cultists and MRAs is. Yudkowsky seems like the kind of guy to buy hard into the He seems like the kind of person who honestly believes he could logic a woman into dating him.
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Cardiovorax posted:Now I wonder how big the overlap between LessWrong cultists and MRAs is. Yudkowsky seems like the kind of guy to buy hard into the Someone posted a screenshot of his okcupid profile somewhere upthread; he's looking for another submissive woman to add to his harem. The whole thing is a fascinating read in the same way that reading Free Republic is fascinating.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:There's a decent contigent of PUAs at least.
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Christmas Present posted:Someone posted a screenshot of his okcupid profile somewhere upthread; he's looking for another submissive woman to add to his harem. Imagine being submissive to that.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Imagine being submissive to that.
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Nessus posted:YOU HAVE COME TO A WORLD CALLED HPMOR 3^^^3 whipcracks.
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Christmas Present posted:Someone posted a screenshot of his okcupid profile somewhere upthread; he's looking for another submissive woman to add to his harem.
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Hobnob posted:3^^^3 whipcracks. But is that better or worse than a mote of dust in all of the other people in Yud's life for 3^^^3 years?
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Don Gato posted:But is that better or worse than a mote of dust in all of the other people in Yud's life for 3^^^3 years?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Doesn't he... already have a full-time slave? What the gently caress do you need another one of those for? Pimpin' ain't easy.
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Antivehicular posted:I was going to make a joke about the fan torturing him to demand that he bring Hermione's troll-mauled, cryogenically-preserved corpse back to life, but I'm sure that's actually how the story is going to end: Harry triumphing over death, bringing Hermione back for a big cinematic kiss! Unfortunately, tragedy strikes when Hermione reveals that the troll touched her breast while mauling her and Harry concludes that this incidental sexual assault has decreased Hermione's mate utility value enough that he must go with the thankfully rape-free Luna instead. ahahaha what is Hermione really dead and in cryogenic storage?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Doesn't he... already have a full-time slave? What the gently caress do you need another one of those for? It's like Pokemon, isn't it?
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Swan Oat posted:ahahaha what is Hermione really dead and in cryogenic storage? I haven't actually read HPMOR -- I have better things to do with my time, like cleaning the cat box and staring aimlessly at walls -- but I've definitely read in the thread that this is a real plot development. Hermione gets mauled to death by the dungeon troll (since apparently this story is still happening in the first year?) and Harry has her frozen in the infirmary or something because HE WILL CONQUER DEATH!. Or something?
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AlbieQuirky posted:It's like Pokemon, isn't it? Nah it's like Pokegirls except a bit less hideous. Anyway, I would like to remind everyone out the sad state of humanity that Arron Swartz liked this abomination of a wank-fic.
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Swan Oat posted:ahahaha what is Hermione really dead and in cryogenic storage? Came to post this. Did Voldequirrel still child logic a troll into the school at Halloween/harry's birthday?
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The troll attack was there, killed Hermione but I don't remember the cryogenics thing and I'm not going back to check.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Doesn't he... already have a full-time slave? What the gently caress do you need another one of those for? Try asking a plantation owner.
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Namarrgon posted:The troll attack was there, killed Hermione but I don't remember the cryogenics thing and I'm not going back to check. It happened, Harry's immediate crisis response was to attempt to get her core body temperature down as quickly as possible. Nobody else wanted to do this because it's dumb. This makes them deathists, I think? I don't think he convinced them that it was worth it.
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one of the best written fanfics posted:Dumbledore was also looking healthier, though not fully restored. The old wizard's head turned for a moment, locked eyes with Professor Quirrell, then looked back to Harry. "Harry," Dumbledore said, "are you about to collapse in exhaustion and possibly die?" How do people read this poo poo
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Easy, read exclusively Douglas Adams and watch exclusively Joss Whedon shows.
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Let's make fun of something new, like Yudkowsky officiating at a wedding. http://lesswrong.com/lw/dqz/a_marriage_ceremony_for_aspiring_rationalists/
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quote:But in this day, and within this community, marriage necessarily takes on a different meaning. 'Until death do you part' is a different concept if you suspect that indefinite lifespan extension may be invented sometime in the next few decades. Once, getting married at age 20 meant you were probably a quarter of the way through your life. In this day, and in this community, you know that you might actually be getting married at zero point zero zero zero and some more zeroes one percent of the way through your life. 
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Djeser posted:Easy, read exclusively Douglas Adams and watch exclusively Joss Whedon shows. And think fanfiction is high art, instead of mediocre at best authors simply rewriting established IP with their own twists.
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Malderi posted:Let's make fun of something new, like Yudkowsky officiating at a wedding. It's totally not a religion, guys.
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