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Powershift posted:Ya'll act like the euro BMW 1 series doesn't exist. Powershift posted:The lotus talbot sunbeam was 150hp in 2900lbs. Powershift posted:For the £25,110 toyota wants for the GT-86, you can get a 120D m-sport or 125i m-sport.
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angryhampster posted:Heh..in the process of black plasti-dipping a lot of the fake chrome on my '08 Maxima. Have considering doing some of the interior "wood" trim as well. And this is where Infiniti got things right with the g35 and up. Subtle accents of brushed aluminum here and there with no overwhelming tacky chrome everywhere.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 22:07 |
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InitialDave posted:It's probably the car I mentioned earlier, and the reason I specified a 20k price point for a RWD hot hatch. I'm talking about something to compete in the same arena as the Fiesta ST. InitialDave posted:Just find the extra £5k for the M135i if you're going down that path. InitialDave posted:It's probably the car I mentioned earlier, and the reason I specified a 20k price point for a RWD hot hatch. I'm talking about something to compete in the same arena as the Fiesta ST. InitialDave posted:Just find the extra £5k for the M135i if you're going down that path. Are you actually 2 posters using the same account, and sharing posts? edit: also, the 1 series is going FWD because british assholes didn't appreciate it Powershift fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 28, 2014 |
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Powershift posted:Are you actually 2 posters using the same account, and sharing posts? If you bring the 1-series into it at 25k, I would go straight to 30k and get the full-fat option.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 22:26 |
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Maybe renault will make a renaultsport twingo RS or cup that you still won't buy.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 22:41 |
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Powershift posted:Maybe renault will make a renaultsport twingo RS or cup that you still won't buy. I'll admit it would fit the nominal bill of a RWD hot hatch, even if I was thinking of good old front engine, rear drive with my previous comments. Though I would rapidly tire of even more inane review comparisons with the 911. Yes, it has the engine in the back. SHUT UP. Jesus.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 22:51 |
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InitialDave posted:It's probably the car I mentioned earlier, and the reason I specified a 20k price point for a RWD hot hatch. I'm talking about something to compete in the same arena as the Fiesta ST. Let me clarify I meant that the Sunbeam was probably the last RWD "economy" hot hatch. The 1 series is more of a premium higher class offering, and I think it's going FWD eventually.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 23:23 |
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http://m.autoblog.com/2014/09/24/sales-incentive-growth-clustered-brands-few-cuvs/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000015 Sounds like the brands without an assload of CUVs/SUVs aren't doing so well in an environment of declining fuel prices.Maybe this is the break Lincoln was looking for.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:01 |
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Cyrezar posted:http://m.autoblog.com/2014/09/24/sales-incentive-growth-clustered-brands-few-cuvs/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000015 If CUV = Coupe Utility Vehicle, then it sounds like a good time for GM to release the G8ST (I can only hope).
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:16 |
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Noeland posted:If CUV = Coupe Utility Vehicle, then it sounds like a good time for GM to release the G8ST (I can only hope). It means crossover utility vehicle. Basically lifted hatchback or Wagon
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:24 |
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I personally think BMW has lost the plot with turbocharging the M cars and are going in the wrong direction. If the M4 had stuck to the NA formula, I would likely have never considered a Viper. I'm also reading about defects in the new C7 Vettes now which tells me despite design improvements, GM still has lovely build quality. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-coupe-z51-manual-long-term-update-review and http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...en-getting.html Viggen posted:Didn't you just buy a Viper?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:31 |
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Well anyway back to trucks that people actually buy.quote:'Toughnology' Concept Shows Silverado's Built-In Strength I feel like they are really painting themselves into a corner, marketing wise.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:44 |
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For all the taglines about how it "reduces weight" vs aluminum, I don't actually see any numbers in there for curb weight.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 00:50 |
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Fucknag posted:For all the taglines about how it "reduces weight" vs aluminum, I don't actually see any numbers in there for curb weight. It doesn't say that, it says quote:
I'm not sure if Ford has released official curb weights for the F-150 yet, but the previous Silverado was already ~400lbs lighter than the previous F-150, The OHV enigine alone probably saves a bunch of weight over Ford's DOHC engine, so the difference isn't as pronounced as Ford would like you to believe.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 12:59 |
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Das Volk posted:I personally think BMW has lost the plot with turbocharging the M cars and are going in the wrong direction. If the M4 had stuck to the NA formula, I would likely have never considered a Viper. Weren't you complaining about how your old M3 had no torque and how great the Viper having torque was? And the new M3/4 has way more torque than the old M3 everywhere so...they're doing it wrong?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 14:45 |
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Throatwarbler posted:It doesn't say that, it says 4x2 SuperCrew 3.5L weighs in at 4475. 2014 model would've been right at 5200. And Chevy in same config with the 4.3L is 4942. For reference, a Genesis V8 is almost 4600. And a V6 AWD Genesis is only two pounds lighter than the F150.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 15:03 |
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sean10mm posted:Weren't you complaining about how your old M3 had no torque and how great the Viper having torque was? And the new M3/4 has way more torque than the old M3 everywhere so...they're doing it wrong? Doing it wrong for some buyers, yeah. There are huge differences between a high-strung NA motor, high-displacement/high-torque NA motor and a torque-everywhere turbo'd motor. Personally, I don't care what I'm driving as long as there's power somewhere. Other people are more picky about where and how the power comes on. Turbo cars can be highly non-linear in their response and that can be off-putting to some.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 15:17 |
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meatpimp posted:Turbo cars can be highly non-linear in their response and that can be off-putting to some. I don't know that there is anything more linear than a BMW turbo 3.0 BUT that doesn't make you wrong, only these engines aren't they you speak of. First image I found, no claims of 100% accuracy made FlerpNerpin fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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Spiffness posted:I don't know that there is anything more linear than a BMW turbo 3.0 BUT that doesn't make you wrong, only these engines aren't they you speak of. That's the most beautifully perfect powerband I have ever seen, good lord.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 19:00 |
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Spiffness posted:I don't know that there is anything more linear than a BMW turbo 3.0 BUT that doesn't make you wrong, only these engines aren't they you speak of. Keep in mind -- dyno charts are full-throttle and don't take into account partial-throttle/mid-rpm response, which is much more common in everyday driving. Like I said, I don't care what the response is, as long as it's there... but some people are sensitive. I also don't doubt for a second that there's a lot of residual "lol turbo lag" thoughts and associations in the marketplace as a whole. Driving a number of VW 1.8T/2.0T cars, as well as my wife's 1.5l Juke has shown me that turbo tuning has come a LONG way and I don't find it the least bit objectionable. In fact, if I was buying, I'd take a BMW 335i with some go-fast parts over an M3. I love driving dad's, but I like the immediacy and push of a strong turbo motor. Plus there's an improvement in gas mileage.
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Das Volk posted:I personally think BMW has lost the plot with turbocharging the M cars and are going in the wrong direction. If the M4 had stuck to the NA formula, I would likely have never considered a Viper. You two viper owners should grab some pictures driving together and be the Twin Snakes of AI. and touch butts
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Spiffness posted:I don't know that there is anything more linear than a BMW turbo 3.0 BUT that doesn't make you wrong, only these engines aren't they you speak of. The torque curve isn't the non linearity he's referring to, it's the lag associated with the turbo spooling up. For a certain throttle input, transitioning from cruising to acceleration, you'll experience a non linear "roll on" for power for a constant throttle input as the turbo transitions from vacuum to whatever boost level is appropriate for that particular rpm and throttle input. Commonly referred to as "boost lag" There are tricks to reduce this effect, twin scroll turbo, shorter intake piping, lighter and smaller turbo, sequential or twin turbo applications, variable geometry turbos, etc. But it's near impossible to completely eliminate this effect, especially on smaller high power engines. Some simply prefer the direct feeling of NA throttle response, no lag, no nonlinear responses to throttle input. Individual throttle bodies go a long way as well for helping with throttle response, one day I'll throw a set onto something I own. e:fb spent too much time writing this out on mobile
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Autoblog posted:Johan de Nysschen isn't afraid of taking quick, decisive actions, even if they are criticized. Since taking the wheel at Cadillac, he instigated moving the luxury division's base of operations to Manhattan's SoHo neighborhood and introduced a new naming scheme for the future of the brand, like he did at Infiniti. The polarizing boss recently explained his feelings about the future of Cadillac in more depth on his Facebook page, but unfortunately only his friends could read it. Thankfully, Daily Kanban posted much of the strongly worded missive for the whole world to see. I get where he is coming from as far as the 'lowest common denominator' thing and I truly hope he succeeds. Mercedes has been steadily expanding downmarket with the new CLA and GLA and to be honest I've always seen them to be the true Cadillac competitor at least ideologically speaking - a brand focused purely on luxury first before any sporting pretensions. It would be great if they could produce a competitive product other than the Escalade, and the new CT6 should be an indicator of where they are headed. Wonder how long his contract is for? Spiffness posted:I don't know that there is anything more linear than a BMW turbo 3.0 BUT that doesn't make you wrong, only these engines aren't they you speak of. Is that the new M4 engine? Jesus Christ. I do agree with DV though that the NA engines are where it's at. I realize that on paper the forced induction engines are superior but it seems like all the Germans are going for turbocharged V8s now. In my opinion they should stick the massively powerful twin turbo V8s into the M-lines (make an M550i) and leave the more hardcore M cars lighter and naturally aspirated. They are turning into AMG except AMG hasn't started playing engine noises over the stereo as far as I know.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 00:20 |
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Honestly, I have no desire to own a BMW any newer than an E60/E90. BMW still makes a pretty nice car, but they have really killed the "drivers car" aspect and just become another luxury car. Maybe I am just becoming less impressed with their offerings, or I have shifted my focus in what kind of cars I like.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 01:46 |
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Ideally, all cars should be exactly like the 1989 Nissan Skyline GT-R.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 02:20 |
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I have no desire to own a BMW newer than an E34
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 02:28 |
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I have no desire to own a BMW newer than an E28.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 02:33 |
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The E39 was pretty much the best looking sedan (in my opinion) that BMW has ever made. Plus the 540i gives killer performance with out the M tax.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Honestly, I have no desire to own a BMW any newer than an E60/E90. I always chalked it up to tastes changing. The average person couldn't tell you if their car was FWD or RWD, BMW probably correctly guessed that they were wasting their time making a drivers car.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 02:53 |
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E34s have a clamshell hood and E39s do not, ergo E34s are the better car e: this is kind of unrelated but a friend of mine showed me a trick where he undid the gas shock to my hood and them opened it up to 90* and there was a ton of room to work on poo poo, it's the simple stupid things that make me go
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 03:34 |
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E39s have a reliable V8 and E34s do not.ergo, E39s are the better car. The direction the hood opens is irrelevant if you never have to open it
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 03:44 |
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can't be thaaaat hard to swap a M62 into a E34 540i
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 03:48 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Here's what Buick needs to do. -Rebadge the Equinox, again (Terrain) -Rebadge a European station wagon, even though Americans hate wagons now, with a name that, historically, has not been associated with a wagon body style (Regal) -Rebadge an AUS car, which has been done twice already (SS, G8) -Rebagde a tiny European cabriolet which won't perform well or get good fuel economy because of the added weight -Keep the rebadged Cruze and Trax -Don't rebadge a RWD performance car Do I have that right? You're more or less saying that New GM should continue doing some of the same things Old GM did that led it to ruin. Reminder: GM spread the GMT360 platform across SEVEN brands! -Chevrolet Trailblazer (and SSR) -GMC Envoy -Isuzu Ascender -Saab 9-7X -Oldsmobile Bravada -Buick Rainier -Hummer H3 The only differentiation I can think of between all those trucks is that the Saab had the ignition switch on the console, the Envoy had that convertible cargo area roof, and the H3 tried its damnedest to look like a 3/4 scale H2 and had the 5 cylinder from the Colorado which made it a punk in the performance department. GMC is still around because of brand recognition. People still believe GMC is not just Chevy trucks with different body panels. This is despite the fact that, back in the 80s and 90s, Chevy and GMC even shared a truck nameplate (Suburban) with little to no alterations! But it sells, so keep it. Don't get me wrong. GM has made huge leaps in the quality department, by pulling their heads out of their collective rear end and learning how to properly put a car together from their EU arm. They've certainly come a long way from the Citation and Cavalier. But the last thing they need to do is more rebadging. The XTS is a prime example. They're trying to make it a bit different with the V, which has the turbo 3.6 with 400 goddamn horsepower and four wheel drive, but it's still on a pedestrian front-drive platform. Cadillac has always been about leading the company in styling and technology, and that seems like a step backward.
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With the popularity of hot hatches, the euro market being in the shitter and Nissan's relationship with Renault, it's disappointing they haven't rebadged the renaultsport megane or clio and brought them to north america. Or at the very least done something with the zoomy bits. They should also make the 370z, or at least the next z car less lovely. they're selling 1/4 of the 370s as they did 350s in the US at this point.
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1500quidporsche posted:I always chalked it up to tastes changing. The average person couldn't tell you if their car was FWD or RWD, BMW probably correctly guessed that they were wasting their time making a drivers car. I've said it a bajillion times already, but I think BMW needs a special high-price, luxury version of their cars, priced above the respective M-cars in each series. This way, the status-seekers don't end up in an M-car (which has been perennially the highest-priced version of their model lineups), then complain incessantly about how loud it is, how hard it rides, how poor the fuel economy is, etc, which in turn pretty much guarantees that subsequent M-cars are softer and cushier than their predecessors. Even though they are a performance brand after a fashion, maybe BMW should re-position Alpina to take up this niche? They can still build what they're used to building, but with a lot more opulence throughout. If I was running the shop at BMW, that would be one of many, many changes I would make.
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Left Ventricle posted:-Rebadge an AUS car, which has been done twice already (SS, G8) At least five in recent history. The last Pontiac GTO was a Holden Monaro with left hand drive, an LSx, and different badging + grill. The current Camaro platform is actually an Australian-designed platform (GM Zeta), and is related to the SS and G8. Except the Camaro is the only one of the above that's built in the US. There's also the new Caprice police car, which AFAIK is built in Australia (and also based on the Zeta platform). randomidiot fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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The crowd that bought those harsh M-cars new is old now and wants something softer. There is no younger crowd coming in to replace them. The younger crowd is more concerned with job security, student loan debt, and the enviroment. All that young person M money is going to loan payments, savings accounts, and teslas, which means BMWs problem isn't that the m-cars are getting softer, it's that the i3 is a goofy loving clown car, and not a mini i8.
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Left Ventricle posted:Basically you're saying: The Envision is not a rebadged Equinox, it's based on the new European/Other World midsize SUV platform that will also underpin a new Opel Antara. Since the Equinox/Terrain are getting fairly old they will be replaced at some point, possibly with another vehicle based on the same platform as the Envision, but possibly not. We don't know yet. The ENvision already exists and is already coming, so it's sort of a moot point now but it's the right car for the market presently.
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sean10mm posted:Weren't you complaining about how your old M3 had no torque and how great the Viper having torque was? And the new M3/4 has way more torque than the old M3 everywhere so...they're doing it wrong? R> C> P
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Left Ventricle posted:
- The wagon already exists, all the engineering has been done and the incremental cost to bring it over(Keep building them in Germany) isn't that much in the big scheme, it's a niche product but it can be profitable.Other car companies can take a page from BMW when it comes to niche products like manual transmissions or wagons. It's not a big market but they are your best customers. - Again, all this still already exists. - Thrice more, it already exists, make it stylish and it will sell, lots of people want a convertible and don't want a Corvette or Camaro. The old Sebring cab sold well, this can too. - The Verano isn't an ideal product for the US market, better for China, but it's getting to the end of its life soo and will be replaced by something that will be on a shared platform with the Envision. The Encore, well, I don't like the idea personally but tiny SUVs are all the rage right now. MB/Audi/BMW all have them, SUbaru has one and Honda will soon as well. Don't price the Buick version too low and it's fine. - Buick doesn't need a Z28 because it's not part of the brand identity. They *could* use a twin turbo Enclave though. Left Ventricle posted:Do I have that right? You're more or less saying that New GM should continue doing some of the same things Old GM did that led it to ruin. So I guess it's a good thing that the GMT360 and half those brands are dead then? The GMT 360 was the right product at the right time as well and made a boatload of money. The XTS is really a Chinese market play above everything else. Any incremental sales they get elsewhere is just gravy. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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