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Fatherdog, you misquoted me. Pathetic. I take it you're done.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Knee on belly: a morally unjustifiable position THUG LYFE
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ICHIBAHN, seriously, gently caress off. Here's Karelin dropping people on their heads as a palette-cleanser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_dDKWmyz4k
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ICHIBAHN posted:Fatherdog, you misquoted me. Pathetic. I take it you're done. lol dude you are arguing from a perspective of morality in a sport where i dont think you get it, but the entire point is hurting people you tried to invalidate his argument from you know experience and know-how with "well thats not how i would do things" you are arguing something you know nothing about from the stances of your feels rather than literally anything concrete
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ICHIBAHN posted:Fatherdog, you misquoted me. Pathetic. I take it you're done. ? Like literally you can click the links and go directly to the posts where you post exactly what I quoted you posting. Are you simple or something?
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Why on earth would post in this thread if you don't know anything about grappling, don't do grappling and don't want to do grappling? I don't troll the knitting thread.
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Morals, dudes.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Morals, dudes. "hmm this man is trying to snap my arm, i wonder if i should focus on not letting him snap my arm or wonder about the morality of combat sports"
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Yuriy posted:please train more Ok man, clearly I haven't been in enough competitions to tell jokes in an SA grappling thread. 
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fatherdog posted:? Ok ill bite doggy, i didn't say this "I wasn't intending to argue. I was intending to call everyone in the thread who expressed a certain POV thugs, and then refuse to listen to any reasons my position may be unreasonable. Deal or chill."
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Can you describe a toehold for me?
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Dangersim posted:Can you describe a toehold for me? Go under their ankle and figure four your other hand that's grabbing their toes, do not apply pressure, instead wait for them to recognize the position and acknowledge it so that you don't hurt them
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Oct 10, 2014 23:21
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Is Ichibahn a Paul Pot rereg
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I'm the real deal oatmeal
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Do a double wristlock against their toes, do not apply pressure, instead wait for them to recognize the position and acknowledge it so that you don't hurt them No you loving noob you palm their toes and apply pressure until their toes crack and they lean back in ecstasy. Then pounce!
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ICHIBAHN posted:Ok ill bite doggy, i didn't say this "I wasn't intending to argue. I was intending to call everyone in the thread who expressed a certain POV thugs, and then refuse to listen to any reasons my position may be unreasonable. Deal or chill." Which is why that wasn't in quote tags. Are you familiar with the concept of "restating" as a tool of rhetorical analysis? Have you ever talked to an actual human being? Are you in fact a robot and your rigorous interpretation of the First Law is what is causing this unfortunate conflict?
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ICHIBAHN posted:Ok ill bite doggy, i didn't say this "I wasn't intending to argue. I was intending to call everyone in the thread who expressed a certain POV thugs, and then refuse to listen to any reasons my position may be unreasonable. Deal or chill." Yes, we know you did not say those exact words (that is why he did not use the "quote" function of the SomethingAwful forums, so that everybody would recognize you did not say those exact words). However, it is a totally accurate summary of your position. He could have added "comically ill-informed and self-righteous" without compromising accuracy. You seem to fully understand neither the nature of combat sports, competition in general, or how to structure an argument. And you DEFINITELY don't understand how to present yourself as anything other than a sanctimonious know-nothing. E: now im pretty sure we're being trolled.
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Even as a competitive fencer in high school and college you got hosed up and tucked up your opponents in competition. I once got my God damned arm pit ripped open badly enough to bleed through my lead underarm protector. High. School. Fencing. BJJ is awesome, chill compared to a ton of things, but sure as gently caress meant as a sport in which you literally try to break your opponent. The softy in me might not flip a person onto concrete in a competition if I could help it but I certainly wouldn't worry about it if it happened and I would drat well expect my opponent to do it to me given the chance. Some of y'all are high if you think competing = thug.
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Dangersim posted:Can you describe a toehold for me? Anytime I see the post count explode in this thread, I know its toe holds.
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ICHIBAHN posted:feels a bit like bullying here lads Dangersim posted:THUG LYFE
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ICHIBAHN posted:feels a bit like bullying here lads a feeling you should be used to
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ICHIBAHN posted:feels a bit like bullying here lads Being a complete jackass usually invites ridicule. Blame yourself.
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Heyyy 50 new posts in the grappling thread something cool musta 
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Someday I hope to win "Most Honorable Participant" at a BJJ tournament.
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Thug-based fighting arts
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Bundt Cake posted:Thug-based fighting arts I just realized this guy must not like Yves Edwards and that's not cool.
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When you fight someone in a tournament, you have both literally signed up to hurt each other. Do you get mad when your opponent punches you in a boxing match?
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Dangersim posted:I just realized this guy must not like Yves Edwards and that's not cool. Seriously, what the gently caress Ichibahn?
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I have been quietly annoyed that both this thread and the ask/tell thread have turned into the novice discussion zone (not that there is anything wrong about that since I'm not an expert) but this thread as of late has been pretty drat funny.
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Petition to get the crazy guy who trains with Ben Rothwell in here. I don't think he even grapples, but hell, it'll be fun.
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Ichi you are new to combat sports if I'm not mistaken and your sentiments are nice but during a competition you must put your faith in the refs and the sanctioning bodies to protect the competitors. Competitors are only obligated to compete as well as they can.
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Novum posted:Ichi you are new to combat sports if I'm not mistaken and your sentiments are nice but during a competition you must put your faith in the refs and the sanctioning bodies to protect the competitors. Competitors are only obligated to compete as well as they can. The samurai code can not be broken dude.
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:Heyyy 50 new posts in the grappling thread something cool musta Me coming into this thread. Only not as good looking or black.  Honestly I train BJJ partially for self defence because I don't want to ever punch anyone in the face if they're aggressor-ing on me, because there's poo poo in the news all the time about guys getting punched once, falling over and breaking their brain on the footpath. Regardless who is right or wrong in the eyes of the law, I'd rather not have that on my conscience. The other reason is because it's awesome exercise and rad as gently caress to train. I haven't competed yet because I've only been going for about six months, but I wrestled in high school, 17-something years ago, and my nose is still bent a little from one time I got dropped on it and ground into the mat, and that was the least of the poo poo that happened during competition. Competition is about winning, and pausing to consider whether the maneuver you're going to attempt in order to win is morally defensible is probably a really good way to lose. Lots of people train lots of combat sports and never compete, maybe that's what people who have a problem with the possibility of their opponent getting hurt should do. It's still going to be great fitness and cool fun even if you don't compete.
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Captain Log posted:Even as a competitive fencer in high school and college you got hosed up and tucked up your opponents in competition. I once got my God damned arm pit ripped open badly enough to bleed through my lead underarm protector. High. School. Fencing. How did this happen?
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Gadamer posted:How did this happen? in fencing people are hitting each other really hard with swords
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I've gotta admit, I sometimes trip out on the moral implications of our sport too. Like, consensual violence is still basically violence, right? And what does that mean for me as a pacifist? In fact, I think that kind of sensitivity to the ethical implications of our actions is good, just like it's good to be aware of their legal ramifications. But calling a room full of people who are trying to reason with you bullies and thugs is just asking for trouble. So like, if you're choking a guy and he gets a blood clot and dies because of your arterial manipulations, is that like unintentional assisted suicide or what? A Wry Smile fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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