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Shroud posted:Sigmar & Nagash re-retconned as the missing primarchs, then. They've always done stuff like this. In the Albion campaign in Fantasy you could buy your guys lightning claws, power fists and bolters.
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Abnett recently signed a deal with Gollancz to publish some books. Could be cool.
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There's space marine stuff in the Liber Chaotica as well. The author is given visions of the servants of chaos and in the volume on Khorne, he draws a berzerker and the description is basically "WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS?". There are a few other nods to 40k in it as well. A part of me still wishes that the end-times of fantasy basically resolves with a 40k short story of an inquisitor that passes by their planet, finds the whole thing unsavory and calls in an exterminatus on a whim. edit- or skaven in power armor. Either is good.
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Big Willy Style posted:They've always done stuff like this. In the Albion campaign in Fantasy you could buy your guys lightning claws, power fists and bolters. 
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amuayse posted:Well a large silver knight that can shoot blue bolts of fire from hand and is a pseudo immortal wanderer of the warp and demon slayer. Big Willy Style posted:It is Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights. I love the stupid Warhammer universe.
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I had thought there was something in some book somewhere that Abaddon had been explicitly forbidden from landing on a certain world by the Ruinous Powers as they had designs on it, and that it was implied to be the Fantasy world, but I can't find a source for it any more. Maybe I was just drunk?
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wiegieman posted:Who knows, Black Library has the worst loving website. Indeed, what does every other publisher in existance know with their 'Publishing Schedule' and 'Telling people about forthcoming books'. Advance notice is Heresy.
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ADB said in an interview a couple months ago that he wasn't really enjoying writing Horus Heresy stuff as much as 40k stuff and that Master of Mankind was dragging a lot. Edit: he also had a recent blog post featuring Zach Braff with a bolter.
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Big Willy Style posted:It is Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights. For ever in search of that fine rear end warp dust
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So, is the Nagash trilogy any good? I've been told poo poo is going down in the WHF universe, but I kind of stopped reading after, uh, Brunner?
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It's interesting since it shows the creation of the tomb kings and vampires and how Fantasy Egypt collapsed.
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Deptfordx posted:Indeed, what does every other publisher in existance know with their 'Publishing Schedule' and 'Telling people about forthcoming books'. Advance notice is Heresy. Well it is a part of GW, a company who pretty much hates talking to its customer base about anything other than in terms of "Buy this".  Sulecrist posted:ADB said in an interview a couple months ago that he wasn't really enjoying writing Horus Heresy stuff as much as 40k stuff and that Master of Mankind was dragging a lot. Based on the amount of love that Talon has received I think letting him loose on that series would've been a good idea from BL because I'm pretty sure you'd get some amazing stuff from that as it's apparently ADB really really wants to write more of that. But that'll probably not gonna happen any time soon since they obviously wanna milk the 30k books as much as possible. Same reason the next Ghosts book is probably gonna be shunted into 2016 or something as well. Also I saw the email about McNeill writing Alpha Legion earlier this week and my first reaction was "Eh  ". Kinda doubting he's the right author for those guys.
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Azran posted:So, is the Nagash trilogy any good? I've been told poo poo is going down in the WHF universe, but I kind of stopped reading after, uh, Brunner? The trilogy doesn't really directly play into the current End Times (aside from showing the origin of Nagash.) If you want to pick up on the actual "poo poo's going down" just pick up The Return of Nagash and The Fall of Altdorf. I haven't finished Nagash yet, but it is excellent for the 75% I have read so far. Chris Wraight wrote both books, so I assume Altdorf will be good as well. That being said, I think BL has been leading up to this for a while - the Dwarf and Elves books have hinted at the situation for a while, I guess. Things start going into gear with the Black Plague series by CL Werner. From there, you've got Archaon: Everchosen then Gotrek and Felix: Kinslayer. The The Return of Nagash book is the "true" starting point though. I think if you start there, you'll be ok. If you want to enhance the experience though, track down a copy of the fluff book for the WFB End Times: Nagash supplement. It has a really good overview of what has happened up to this point and is a great read.
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The real reason why everything went to poo poo was because Malekith's mom was crazy. Nagash learned necromancy from captured dark elves after all.
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I just finished up Ahriman: Sorcerer and it was pretty good. I think it's the first 40k book I've read that's really played around with the time travel aspect of the warp. It even has some members of the 13th Company show up. Though they're more of a plot device than actual characters. Ahriman is a little too puppet mastery at the end, but hey, it's Ahriman. That's kind of what he does. An insane, barely cohesive, impossible plan that somehow works is Tzeentchy as gently caress.
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Lincoln`s Wax posted:There's space marine stuff in the Liber Chaotica as well. The author is given visions of the servants of chaos and in the volume on Khorne, he draws a berzerker and the description is basically "WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS?". There are a few other nods to 40k in it as well. A part of me still wishes that the end-times of fantasy basically resolves with a 40k short story of an inquisitor that passes by their planet, finds the whole thing unsavory and calls in an exterminatus on a whim. Now I wish for a new space RTS where you control the Skaven's slow ascent into space. Hey, if those weird space-Japanese could do it with Eldar-help, then the Skaven should be able to do the same. After all, they're ten times smarter then both races combined.
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Libluini posted:Now I wish for a new space RTS where you control the Skaven's slow ascent into space. Hey, if those weird space-Japanese could do it with Eldar-help, then the Skaven should be able to do the same. After all, they're ten times smarter then both races combined.
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Legacies of Betrayal seems very..Uneven. It seems like Black Library is just raiding the waste baskets, pulling out half finished novel ideas and calling them special edition short stories. One of them is 2 pages long. I enjoyed most of the Horus Heresy short story collections but as they get closer to the battle of Terra they are trying to pull every cent they can.
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This might be stretching it a little, but one of my friends decided to get rid of his entire comic collection from his teenage years, and invited people to take what they wanted. Somehow this meant that a copy of the first volume of Daemonifuge ended up in my possession and... what a loving trainwreck. I can't actually tell what's going on in the art half the time and the story doesn't really gel in any possible way. Any time that you have to Google the book afterward in order to tell what actually happened... let's just say I was glad to get back to Know No Fear.
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I found a copy of it at some second hand stall at a con a while back and bought it for buttons. It is... not good.
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The real problems with it were the incoherent story, the complete lack of any characterization, and also the ineptitude of the artist - to the point where I not only couldn't follow what was actually happening on some pages, I couldn't differentiate between "that Sister who just got killed" and "the Sister who's in charge two pages later." Although there was that one great moment where one of the Sisters tries to tell the Inquisitor that he has no jurisdiction in their abbey. Yeah, that's gonna go well.
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Yeah, even the facial tattoos seemed to shift from page to page. The old comics really suffered from being a half-dozen pages in a short anthology for storytelling purposes.
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 Are you tired of reading books that turn out to be bolter porn? Do you think you can do better? Now's your chance. Black Library has an open submission window until the 26th of January.
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PantsOptional posted:
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quote:First of all, we are only looking for short stories featuring the Deathwatch, set in the current Warhammer 40,000 era. You can interpret that in any way you like, as long as the Imperium’s finest xenos hunters are showcased in a manner that fits with the existing background published by Games Workshop.
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It is such a loving shame that it ruled out being able to enter Doc Eldar 
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Arquinsiel posted:It is such a loving shame that it ruled out being able to enter Doc Eldar First thing I thought of when I saw the turn in ad.
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So I'm about half way through damnation of pythos and I'm wondering what the gently caress is the point of this book? Honestly there's space marines on a jungle planet there's some black monolith thing lots of beasties. The iron hands are still emo about Ferrus, and hate the salamanders and raven guard. That's it? . It sucks so far, like battle for the abyss levels of bad
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rocket_Magnet posted:So I'm about half way through damnation of pythos and I'm wondering what the gently caress is the point of this book? Honestly there's space marines on a jungle planet there's some black monolith thing lots of beasties. The iron hands are still emo about Ferrus, and hate the salamanders and raven guard. That's it? . It sucks so far, like battle for the abyss levels of bad 
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Arquinsiel posted:It is such a loving shame that it ruled out being able to enter Doc Eldar Sure you can, put him up against a Deathwatch kill team. They never said the Deathwatch had to be the protagonists or even win.
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The writing doesn't suck but yeah that book is ENTIRELY pointless.
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Have the Deathwatch investigating reports of Xenos massacres, turns out it is the Dark Eldar. Meanwhile Doc Eldar and his Rogue Trader boss provide assistance to the civilians, while Doc Eldar has to avoid the sight of the Deathwatch, leading to shenanigans.
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Arquinsiel posted:It is such a loving shame that it ruled out being able to enter Doc Eldar Solution, add a mention of Deathwatch marines looking for him since they do say they don't have to be the main feature of the story, just showcased. efb. Arquinsiel posted:The old comics really suffered from being a half-dozen pages in a short anthology for storytelling purposes. I don't think GW really knew what to do with comics (as per usual) back then. I've got the major 40k graphic novel collections on my shelf, which even then doesn't even collect half of the stuff published in Warhammer Monthly I reckon based on the few issues I've managed to get my hands on. This was also before they switched their stance to never really acknowledging the comics existence aside from the Kal Jericho print on demand collection. Anyway, the biggest issue is that the major plotline comics end far too abruptly and far too open ended for their own good. I think the only long comic with a proper conclusive ending is Bloodquest while the other two I know off in this case, Titan and Daemonifuge, are both really open ended and with huge tells that were is supposed to come but that never happened. Of those two I think Titan is the best one because the art stays the same up until the last story. Even then it's not bad at all compared to what people said about Daemonifuge, to which I can kinda agree. Or the later Kal Jericho stories which has some wildly fluctuating art quality. It still kinda annoys me that GW has just outright ignored everything that has to do with the comics because there seems to be a decent library of them available for both 40k and Fantasy that we'll never see because... Well there really has been any reason as to why they just haven't republished them really as far as I know. v v
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I'm going to write a story about a squad of Deathwatch termies getting the crap kicked out of them by a single Eldar. The Eldar hunts them down and eliminates them one by one, until only the captain is left. The Eldar, Lu'tant Broc'lae, finally corners the captain, and the captain begins begging for his life. The Eldar calls him a disgusting coward, and strangles him to death. The End. Black Library will probably appreciate this fresh take.
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How about brother Phonzarellius, noted deathwatch dreadnought fighting alongside a group of carcharodons against exodite eldar. At the climax of the battle, the carcharodon captain is about to be killed by a dragon knight just as Phonzarellius leaps over him and sacrifices himself. I'd like my Hugo wrapped to go, please.
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Cooked Auto posted:I don't think GW really knew what to do with comics (as per usual) back then.
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Lincoln`s Wax posted:How about brother Phonzarellius, noted deathwatch dreadnought fighting alongside a group of carcharodons against exodite eldar. At the climax of the battle, the carcharodon captain is about to be killed by a dragon knight just as Phonzarellius leaps over him and sacrifices himself. Sorry, but the Hugo is going to my Deathwatch: Revenge of the Hrud Queen novella.
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Lincoln`s Wax posted:How about brother Phonzarellius, noted deathwatch dreadnought fighting alongside a group of carcharodons against exodite eldar. At the climax of the battle, the carcharodon captain is about to be killed by a dragon knight just as Phonzarellius leaps over him and sacrifices himself. Is it told from the viewpoint of neophyte battle brother Ricardus Koeninghamn?
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Mange Mite posted:Is it told from the viewpoint of neophyte battle brother Ricardus Koeninghamn? Henry Zou posted:Well it is now! YOINK!
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