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genericnick posted:In all fairness: The Martians suck at war. They barely cooperate, use their overtech to build silly gimmick robots which they then send out without any backup whatsoever, piloted by their commanders the death of which leads to shut down of all their engines. Yeah their whole faux-aristocratic honorable knight thing only works on any level because they can literally defy the laws of physics, and even then they somehow manage to lose more than zero percent of the time.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:06
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I'd give Slaine some credit since Inaho has plot-armor on and I am glad he's back in action if that counts. A ton of plot holes were just hand-waved away but OK. About the R-whatever being different during the broadcast? I completely forgot 75% of the show's jargon so anyone want to explain what Inaho meant during that scene? I think the reason the new princess can't inherit the role is b/c Seylum is still kinda alive? Well she is not dying at least. Her character arc got 0 development which I'm still a bit sad about. Inaho and his lack of emotions: He's consistent unlike some other people. We will probably never know what he's really thinking of but that's Ok b/c robot eye  Slaine's mental state: I think he went mad a few episodes from S1 finale during that interrogation scene and he's just barely hanging on the very edge atm. Still not sure why he's extremely devoted to Seylum despite her being nice to him umm 5-7 years ago? But her default state is: Kind.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:17
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Hey, let's not be too harsh on the Martians - they've completely taken two entire continents, which is no easy thing to do.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:18
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Darth Walrus posted:Hey, let's not be too harsh on the Martians - they've completely taken two entire continents, which is no easy thing to do. Given the unfathomable technological gap between the two factions, the fact they've only taken two continents in two years of warfare is actually pretty telling. I mean we're talking about one side using bog-standard military equipment and the other side using technology that can break the laws of physics in half. The Martians are at a huge personnel and resource disadvantage but they would have assuredly won already if not for the Orbital Knights being divided into aristocratic factions actively competing with each other.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:22
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Aseylum was taught by Slaine that the sky on earth is blue because of light diffraction and Inaho realizes that the one on TV is not her because he corrected her in season 1 and told her it was due to Rayleigh scattering.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:28
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Kanos posted:Given the unfathomable technological gap between the two factions, the fact they've only taken two continents in two years of warfare is actually pretty telling. I mean we're talking about one side using bog-standard military equipment and the other side using technology that can break the laws of physics in half. The Martians are at a huge personnel and resource disadvantage but they would have assuredly won already if not for the Orbital Knights being divided into aristocratic factions actively competing with each other. Continents are loving huge, dude. Even if your half-dozen deathrobots effortlessly waste everything in their line-of-sight, it's still going to take a while to have an occupying force deploy, dig in, and root out guerilla fighters from a landmass that vast. There's too few Orbital Knights for them and their Kataphrakts to be everywhere at once, which puts the ball in the court of the far less well-armed footsoldiers.
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Tamba posted:Why is the war still going on 19 months after the end of S1? Weren't the terrans basically down to one last major base? The guy failed to kill someone with a bullet to the head from three feet away, after all It's strange that Terrans have the tech to give Orange-kun a cool new cybernetic eye, but the best that the technologically superior Martians can give Asseylum is a bacta tank (and she still isn't even conscious!). When she does though, she's gonna be pissed. Waking up on the ship of the guy who organised the plot to kill her to martyr his war is bad enough, but finding out Slaine not only sided with the Count, but is letting some other princess use Asseylum's likeness to fuel the war that she tried her hardest to avoid is really going to set her off, imo. Slaine's going to get shot down by Asseylum (who will more than likely be rescued by Inaho) so hard that he'll have PTSD over it.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:35
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Shot down? Literally, perhaps. This poo poo seems designed to make an otherwise even-tempered character murderously angry. What's more, Edelrittuo is there for some reason. Assuming that it is the same person, Asseylum has a real ally nearby which helps her chances of getting out without a daring rescue from an autistic savant.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:57
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Darth Walrus posted:Continents are loving huge, dude. Even if your half-dozen deathrobots effortlessly waste everything in their line-of-sight, it's still going to take a while to have an occupying force deploy, dig in, and root out guerilla fighters from a landmass that vast. There's too few Orbital Knights for them and their Kataphrakts to be everywhere at once, which puts the ball in the court of the far less well-armed footsoldiers. The thing is that it's not like there's a rugged underground Earth resistance that is surviving by hiding in the vastness of the terrain, there's still a coherent Earth Army that has static headquarters and chains of command and supply lines and maintains dominant control over the majority of several continents. It's a functional government, not a guerilla army, which suggests that on at least some level the Earth has been able to directly militarily stand against the invasion, which given the tech gap we've seen and the relative ineffectiveness of regular Terran soldiers suggests that the problem lies with Mars. Continents are huge, yes, but at the beginning of season 1 we saw that the Orbital Knights have the technology to do otherwise impossible things like cut off global communications seemingly indefinitely. That coupled with the fact that while Martian Kataphrakts are few, they're so individually powerful as to be virtually unstoppable means that deploying against them should be utterly impossible. The thing is that due to their stupid aristocracy and internal competition the Orbital Knights aren't really fond of working with each other, which means that their few weaknesses can be exploited. Imagine if literally any two of the Martian Kataphrakts we've seen so far were paired up to work in tandem. How hard would Ice Bot have been to take down if it had Rocket Punch Bot running interference to stop anyone from closing the gap? How invincible would Saazbaum's unit be if Slaine's was supporting it from the word go instead of showing up when the fight is already over? I doubt even Inaho could come up with a way to hit Shield Bot's weak point if Sword Bot was lurking around waiting to kill anyone who tried to get to it.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:57
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Pairing shield bot with anyone else would be a bad idea, since it destroys anything it touches presumably including other super robots. That thing was a huge liability for anything except solo actions.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Pairing shield bot with anyone else would be a bad idea, since it destroys anything it touches presumably including other super robots. That thing was a huge liability for anything except solo actions. So...don't...touch it? An escort unit wouldn't need to physically jump into the thing to support it. It's an unstoppable battering ram with one real weak point, so deploying it with literally any other suit that can effectively cover its weak point would make it pretty much truly invincible.
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Jan 12, 2015 02:04
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Alder posted:About the R-whatever being different during the broadcast? I completely forgot 75% of the show's jargon so anyone want to explain what Inaho meant during that scene? I think the reason the new princess can't inherit the role is b/c Seylum is still kinda alive? Well she is not dying at least. Her character arc got 0 development which I'm still a bit sad about. Inaho told Asselyum that the blue skies are caused by Rayleigh scattering, not light refraction. Slaine told her it was light refraction, and Inaho corrected her when she said the same thing to him. I think that scene was Inaho figuring out it must be a fake Assylum, because "my waifu would never forget" Also a quick google reveals that Rayleigh Scattering is an actual thing and not show jargon. I didn't actually look to see if it's what makes the sky blue EDIT: ^^^ I think the idea is that if one mech is already pretty much unstopable, putting in another mech that can destroy it is nothing but a liability. You are only providing your enemies with a potential way to destroy the other mech (knock it into the shield mech), and unless Inaho is there it's not like the earth forces are going to win against one mech anyway ninjewtsu fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Jan 12, 2015 02:37
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ninjewtsu posted:Inaho told Asselyum that the blue skies are caused by Rayleigh scattering, not light refraction. Slaine told her it was light refraction, and Inaho corrected her when she said the same thing to him. I think that scene was Inaho figuring out it must be a fake Assylum, because "my waifu would never forget" The Meissner effect that Inaho talks about in this episode is also a real thing. They put a lot of thought into the physics of their physics-breaking robots.
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Jan 12, 2015 02:38
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Eej posted:Aseylum was taught by Slaine that the sky on earth is blue because of light diffraction and Inaho realizes that the one on TV is not her because he corrected her in season 1 and told her it was due to Rayleigh scattering. Oh Inaho and his capacity for remembering trivial facts. Thanks for the answer though because I'd been contemplating relying on wiki for episode summaries and that never ends well. Anyone else think how the weird tank=DBZ all over again? A part of me was expecting the annoying long battle scenes w/multiple boss forms to show up next time. I think why the Martians hadn't taken over the entire Earth because they probably want to keep some of it's resources over just say firebombing everything and re-living Heaven's Fall Part II. or I'll just accept that I have no clue either
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Alder posted:I'd give Slaine some credit since Inaho has plot-armor on and I am glad he's back in action if that counts. A ton of plot holes were just hand-waved away but OK. If it's the scene I'm thinking of where Inaho says it's not her, it's because he already explained to her the whole thing about blue skies in season 1.
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Jan 12, 2015 02:40
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Random theory time: the princess is actually dead for real, and the life signs are faked by the Count who wants to keep manipulating Slaine.
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Jan 12, 2015 02:47
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She probably is, he's crazy enough to imagine that she's responsive after all.
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Jan 12, 2015 02:52
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MonsieurChoc posted:Random theory time: the princess is actually dead for real, and the life signs are faked by the Count who wants to keep manipulating Slaine. This precludes her shooting Slaine so I reject it.
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Kanos posted:The thing is that it's not like there's a rugged underground Earth resistance that is surviving by hiding in the vastness of the terrain, there's still a coherent Earth Army that has static headquarters and chains of command and supply lines and maintains dominant control over the majority of several continents. It's a functional government, not a guerilla army, which suggests that on at least some level the Earth has been able to directly militarily stand against the invasion, which given the tech gap we've seen and the relative ineffectiveness of regular Terran soldiers suggests that the problem lies with Mars. There is at least one guerrilla force giving the Martians a hard time - they're the protagonists of the show. The rest of the military seems to have adopted similar tactics as well - see the transport ambush at the beginning of this episode that had the bad luck to run into an Orbital Knight with superspeed. Basically, the Martians are attempting to conquer and settle a planet with a moderately conventional military force plus a few dozen nigh-unstoppable god-machines. There's an obvious counter to that - be where the Orbital Knights aren't. Bomb settlements, murder patrols, ambush transports, and if you see a Kataphrakt coming, run like gently caress. They are, again, trying to secure entire continents for settlement and resource extraction against a hostile population, many of whom have military training. The Knights can't be everywhere.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Random theory time: the princess is actually dead for real, and the life signs are faked by the Count who wants to keep manipulating Slaine. Perhaps but then wouldn't the new princess just inherit A/Z right then and now? I think Seylum is alive but I bet you $20 she won't play a major role other than some flashbacks or Slaine "talking" to her in S2.
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Eej posted:Aseylum was taught by Slaine that the sky on earth is blue because of light diffraction and Inaho realizes that the one on TV is not her because he corrected her in season 1 and told her it was due to Rayleigh scattering. I had a feeling something was up with that scene, but that is brilliant. And now we get to despair as Inaho sits on that goldmine for a dozen episodes because ~drama~ (I hope not).
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Somehow I like that I can excuse Inaho's rad cyber eye because he's now sufficiently plot-important due to having space magic-battery powers that Earth would give him top of the line treatment. I like this dumb show too much.ViggyNash posted:I had a feeling something was up with that scene, but that is brilliant. Edit: Wouldn't surprise me. Besides Inaho being not super talky, it's kind of outlandish on its own to be able to say "that's an imposter, because I corrected this sort-of-girlfriend-I've-known-for-a-few-months a fact about physics once" booksnake fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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booksnake posted:Somehow I like that I can excuse Inaho's rad cyber eye because he's now sufficiently plot-important due to having space magic-battery powers that Earth would give him top of the line treatment. I like this dumb show too much. And yet also send him to the front lines where if he were to die all the magical space batteries of theirs would become useless.
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Lostconfused posted:And yet also send him to the front lines where if he were to die all the magical space batteries of theirs would become useless. Signs point to them only having the one Aldnoah Drive, so it seems reasonably logical to assign him to their most powerful field asset. It's not like he's going to be noticeably safer sitting at a base somewhere if the Martians find out about him and try to kill him, because we've already established that the Terrans aren't particularly great at holding out against concerted Martian attacks. At least the Deucalion can move.
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I just wanna see the Deucalion ram into more stuff.
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Megafunk posted:Did they do the loving T2 shotun reload the first season? a kitten posted:Speaking of; she's been counting down til the new season starts and here's the launch: The speech bubble to the left says "I'll be back" which is the greatest subtle hint ever. Someone might be a fan of a movie!
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Jan 12, 2015 05:10
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Lol thanks to Grouchio for spoiling what happens in the most recent episode. It actually got me to watch it. Slain is a creepy weirdo who can't actually accomplish anything WHAT A SHOCK.
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Jan 12, 2015 06:02
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The Vers are America and all of Earth is Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
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Eej posted:The Vers are America and all of Earth is Iraq and Afghanistan combined. So Inaho is... wily cousin Omar?  It makes sense now. His orange trainer is a Toyota Hilux, and the Vers mechs are F-22's and F-35's. Preechr fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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paragon1 posted:Lol thanks to Grouchio for spoiling what happens in the most recent episode. It actually got me to watch it.
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Lostconfused posted:And yet also send him to the front lines where if he were to die all the magical space batteries of theirs would become useless. Keep in mind if it is as simple as transfer a little blood become magic space tech key. Then Earth Force would have no reason not to just spread the activation factor to everyone who can hold a gun or walk. Its not like they have a dynastic regime built on who can and can't use alien tech. Hagop fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 12, 2015 |
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Hagop posted:Keep in mind if it is as simple as transfer a little blood become magic space tech key. Then Earth Force would have no reason not to just spread the activation factor to everyone who can hold a gun or walk. Its not like they have a dynastic regime built on who can and can't use alien tech. It might be that the blood has to come from the royal line. They give the activation factor to their knghts too, and I don't imagine the vers giving the key to the empire away, after all.
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Personally I think it's more likely that the activation factor is spread from the royal line by "willing it" while physically touching the receiving person. Only because Asseylum's a kid she has no loving idea how it works and unknowingly passed it to Slaine and Inaho via mouth to mouth.
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Maybe it only works if the person wanted to bone you. My god, Rayregalia must be the sexiest man alive.  (i think someone made this joke already)
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Mikl posted:Personally I think it's more likely that the activation factor is spread from the royal line by "willing it" while physically touching the receiving person. Only because Asseylum's a kid she has no loving idea how it works and unknowingly passed it to Slaine and Inaho via mouth to mouth. Honestly I just wondered if it's that simple why doesn't the Martians just have a blood bank for the Royals? Then they can have infinite power w/o any rules
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Alder posted:Honestly I just wondered if it's that simple why doesn't the Martians just have a blood bank for the Royals? Then they can have infinite power w/o any rules Royals said no?
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it's a genetic factor, this is actually star wars inaho is luke, asseylum is leia, and slaine is vader
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nuru posted:Royals said no? Not like they can fight off 100+ of people all at once Yasser Arafatwa posted:it's a genetic factor, this is actually star wars I said something like this as a experimental theory but I guess Seylum doesn't have any siblings 
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Alder posted:Not like they can fight off 100+ of people all at once Only if the people knew that would work. Cloak the knight making process in all kinds of rigmarole and bullshit so that people think you and only you can hand out the right to design and pilot your own autism chariot. Then you don't have to worry about the unwashed masses ganging up on you.
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