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Jan 24, 2015 19:26
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I have to admit...the exact way this happened was quite ridiculous, but the idea isn't bad. Of course, now that the Count is finally out of the picture (a little behind schedule)...Slaine will keep climbing up the ranks and when the princess wakes up it'll all be his fault!
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Jan 24, 2015 19:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E44jeO1c-k&t=110s
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Jan 24, 2015 19:57
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wielder posted:I have to admit...the exact way this happened was quite ridiculous, but the idea isn't bad. Slaine had Aldnoah on his side, in the form of a device that could accurately predict the future hours in advance. That's entirely plausible given the kind of insane bullshit Aldnoah is capable of, and explains a lot about this episode. What's Tharsis's range, for a start? Was Slaine just monitoring the battle in orbit to see where the Dioscura would be, or did he even manage to forecast that he'd be named Saazbaum's heir? Was discovering he'd be the heir why he staged the hit in the first place? Either way, our boy's got a hell of an edge. Basically, it was the cool kind of ridiculous where they set up a whole bunch of stuff in advance, and then push it to the most insane (but still consistent) conclusion possible, though it does underline yet further what a narrow-minded dumbas Cruhteo was. Guess you should have taken a break from your BDSM sessions with the Terran kid and fired up your 'Phrakt once in a while, dude.
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Jan 24, 2015 20:01
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OK, now I can see where this season's going, and boy do I look forward to it. Momentous, last minute shakeups aside, I actually felt that there was some much-needed character building/interaction; nice to see that Inaho actually has a friend in Calm, and the chess game between him and the captain was a good way to illustrate their relationship.
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Jan 24, 2015 21:08
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Darth Walrus posted:Slaine had Aldnoah on his side, in the form of a device that could accurately predict the future hours in advance. That's entirely plausible given the kind of insane bullshit Aldnoah is capable of, and explains a lot about this episode. What's Tharsis's range, for a start? Was Slaine just monitoring the battle in orbit to see where the Dioscura would be, or did he even manage to forecast that he'd be named Saazbaum's heir? Was discovering he'd be the heir why he staged the hit in the first place? Either way, our boy's got a hell of an edge. I'll grant you that explanation is consistent with the way this series has been doing things. The rest is a matter of perspective. Side note: after this turn of events...am I the only person who thinks this could basically end like Toward the Terra now? Except with Aldnoah powers and whatever instead of the whole ESP/psychics aspect.
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Jan 24, 2015 21:18
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wielder posted:I'll grant you that explanation is consistent with the way this series has been doing things. The rest is a matter of perspective. I think it's a little more than just typical for the show - it fits with the setting's established and implied logic. Up until now, the Tharsis felt kind of underpowered for a Count's weapon. Its bullet-dodging trick is neat, but as was explicitly pointed out this episode, it's not that far off what Terran technology can accomplish, and not a patch on 'freeze everything in a one-kilometre radius', 'turn myself into a single, unbreakable molecule and ram you', or 'gently caress you, I have all the powers'. And, as I said, this is a neat workaround for any contrivances or unlikely coincidences in this episode - being able to accurately predict the future hours in advance means that you can basically dictate the situation as you wish.
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Jan 24, 2015 21:51
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Actually Slaine says both that it was intended as a trap for Inaho and that the Tharsis can't see that far into the future. So it was pretty much luck and opportunism.
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Jan 24, 2015 22:02
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Yeah, Slaine explicitly says 'not even the Tharsis can see that far into the future' after firing those bullets and activating a six hour countdown, and then he mentions that Harklight calculated the region he aimed at. So he probably just blindfired into a spot that would end up close to the most probable battlefield and then used the Tharsis' more limited future sight to manoeuvre the dogfight into the path of the bullets.
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Jan 24, 2015 22:03
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Alright, Aldnoah, you win. I think I actually like Slaine after this episode.
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Jan 24, 2015 23:55
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Overlord K posted:Alright, Aldnoah, you win. I think I actually like Slaine after this episode. He's still a huge loser with an intensely unsettling "nice guy" relationship with a vegetative woman floating in a bacta tank from Star Wars, but at least he's got a fancy coat now.
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Jan 25, 2015 00:07
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Kanos posted:He's still a huge loser with an intensely unsettling "nice guy" relationship with a vegetative woman floating in a bacta tank from Star Wars, but at least he's got a fancy coat now. Yeah he's still a huge loser. Just that trap he laid was quite impressive and he made full use of it, even if it wasn't who he wanted.
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Jan 25, 2015 02:55
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I'm going to miss Saazbaum, he was the only Orbital Knight worth a drat. I expect Slaine and Harklight to invest further into Martian line kats. They got slaughtered by Terran line kats, even after Saazbaum broke from tradition and ordered some sets for his troopers.
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Jan 25, 2015 02:57
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Jan 25, 2015 03:06
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I wonder if the OP will be updated with Slaine's new coat.
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Jan 25, 2015 03:08
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Am I the only one who got some serious C&C/Frank Klepacki vibes from the music during the preparation/beginning of the battle?
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Jan 25, 2015 03:18
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Just got past 11 or 12,whichever one has the INSANE GODDAMN ENDING. How do they go on from there? I'm afraid to keep watching. Also slaine is loving weird.
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Jan 25, 2015 04:23
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They go into space.
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Jan 25, 2015 04:30
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Alright, Aldnoah, that was actually pretty goddamn clever. I actually really loved the whole bit with him and his butler after the appointment of him as Saazbaum's heir. "NO SHUT UP I HAVE NO DREAMS" It's a shame it means No more Saazbaum. Rest in pieces you Crusader Kings-playing son of a bitch.
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Jan 25, 2015 05:48
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Am I too late for the after party celebrating Slaine's first successful homicide?
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Jan 25, 2015 06:04
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Slaine killed bowlcut earlier. And a bunch of random EDF mooks, but that's not really homicide. He really likes to kill people on the sly.
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Jan 25, 2015 06:06
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Man, I was just thinking that Saazbaum was the only reason I still felt compelled to watch the show to see what exactly they were going for. It turns out they had no plan for him and the only thing that matters is this uncompelling rivalry between two ridiculously inconsistent characters. I mean seriously the writing for this show is just baffling.
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Jan 25, 2015 07:37
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Well they killed sleazebaum. My favorite character outside of Lt Mohito. Why you doing this show? Wasnt I good? Didnt i watch you every week like a good audience member? The rest of this better make up for it. God damnit.
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Jan 25, 2015 08:09
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RIP best character with the most complex motives
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Jan 25, 2015 08:27
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My only hope is that Slaine inherits those complex motivations as well.
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Jan 25, 2015 09:04
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I can't wait until Slaine's new dad shows up again in 3 episodes, perfectly fine/with some robot bits
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Jan 25, 2015 09:13
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Inaho was already kind of boring before he had a deus ex machina implanted in his face.
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Jan 25, 2015 10:30
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Saazbaum seemed pretty pleased with the outcome, I think. It's what he wanted from a son.
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Jan 25, 2015 14:59
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Kanos posted:He's still a huge loser with an intensely unsettling "nice guy" relationship with a vegetative woman floating in a bacta tank from Star Wars, but at least he's got a fancy coat now.
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Jan 25, 2015 15:17
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Whatever happened to Inaho's sister and lieutenant PTSD anyway? Oh and that doctor guy! He was a character too!
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Jan 25, 2015 16:32
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paragon1 posted:Whatever happened to Inaho's sister and lieutenant PTSD anyway? They're all in the OP, but haven't appeared proper yet.
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Jan 25, 2015 16:40
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I spent the rest of the episode in anticipation once Slaine let those shots off into the middle of nowhere. I had a vague theory and it was fun to see it be mostly true. I'm not sure I've enjoyed any other episode of Aldnoah this much. I was kinda bored with this season so far but if they can keep this up it's going to be a good time. It's kinda nice having a protagonist and antagonist who are both totally on top of things, instead of it being an uneven power balance. EDIT: Looks like Shimura posted a sketch of the Troyards and Saazbaum/Orlaine having tea. Adorable. http://a0ikit0iki.tumblr.com/post/109109224772/if-3 Kaelan Zero fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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Jan 25, 2015 16:41
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Yeah. Slaine actually preparing to fight against an OP character because even his super robot can't do much against Inaho was nice to see. The moment Saazbaum wanted to fight Inaho by himself because of revenge for their past encounter, I knew he was done for. He just had to become like the other Knights, believing they can take care of a problem alone. I really like that the backpack attachment to the earth robots is used for pivoting around space. I can't imagine it being too useful in an area full of debris unless you're aware of all the debris and know where you'll end up or you'll faceplant into a huge rock. I guess that does mean Inaho is the only one able to use it effectively and why the grunts aren't seen using it so far.
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Jan 25, 2015 17:24
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BurningDance posted:Yeah. Slaine actually preparing to fight against an OP character because even his super robot can't do much against Inaho was nice to see. The moment Saazbaum wanted to fight Inaho by himself because of revenge for their past encounter, I knew he was done for. He just had to become like the other Knights, believing they can take care of a problem alone. (The debris wasn't really a problem other than throwing off aim, they said as much)
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Jan 25, 2015 17:29
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So I'm one of those giant needs who likes to explore his reactions to fiction, and I'm trying to figure out why I can enjoy this show in a (mostly) unironic manner when I can't do the same for, say, Guilty Crown. Thoughts so far - it owns its silliness better, keeps a tighter rein on its tone, and is far, far shorter on weird, gross bullshit. Any other suggestions?
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Jan 25, 2015 18:08
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Darth Walrus posted:So I'm one of those giant needs who likes to explore his reactions to fiction, and I'm trying to figure out why I can enjoy this show in a (mostly) unironic manner when I can't do the same for, say, Guilty Crown. Thoughts so far - it owns its silliness better, keeps a tighter rein on its tone, and is far, far shorter on weird, gross bullshit. Any other suggestions? Guilty Crown was objectively bad hth
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Jan 25, 2015 18:48
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AnacondaHL posted:Guilty Crown was objectively bad hth I absolutely get that, I'm just figuring out what makes it bad that A/Z doesn't have, allowing me to genuinely enjoy the latter. I know there's a difference, I'm just trying to pin down what it is.
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Jan 25, 2015 18:51
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Anyways, for you chess nerds, it's puzzle time! (Board 1, white to play) Here's my best estimate to the position of the board as the episode begins:  (Board 2, white to play) After the Queen and King move:  (Board 3, white to play) After the Rooks move:  (Board 4, black to play) And after the ridiculous Queen sac, where they first show the board and have the 70%-30% dialogue:  (Board 5, black to play) Finally, the position after Inaho's coy "leave it to your imagination":  Puzzle 1: Confirm that Board 5 is checkmate. Notably, how does white win if black goes Rxd3 or f5 or even Nc3. Puzzle 2: Do any of the earlier boards offer a better opportunity for checkmate/material imbalance? Spoiler answers which lead to a thematic observation for the show: Puzzle 1, yea it's checkmate. For puzzle 2, Board 2. Bishop takes knight on e7 is a straightforward move and there's little to stop the Queen from crashing in on f6 leading to mate or eventually forking the black queen. In any case, assuming this puzzle was chosen specifically for the show, I find it hilarious that they are saying Inaho's style is to sacrifice the queen to flush the king out into the open 
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Jan 25, 2015 19:57
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Darth Walrus posted:I absolutely get that, I'm just figuring out what makes it bad that A/Z doesn't have, allowing me to genuinely enjoy the latter. I know there's a difference, I'm just trying to pin down what it is. If it makes you feel better, with the current OP and direction the show is heading it absolutely could become a Guilty Crown.
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Jan 25, 2015 19:58
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AnacondaHL posted:Anyways, for you chess nerds, it's puzzle time! it's taken from an actual (semi well-known?) game: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1104948
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