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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:If you are one of those people that really didnt see Stannis dying to Brienne a mile away youre really overthinking it. To be honest, we haven't seen her kill Stannis. I can imagine that she chooses not to kill him and that he ends up being rehabilitated or redeemed in some way. I mean, it makes sense that she kills him and I won't be surprised if she does but that end result was not shown. I agree that the show telegraphs things more but part of that is just because we already know a lot of the secrets they are going to reveal so any foreshadowing stands out. That said, I agree that a lot of the new material they had to come up with just wasn't as good.
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If she spares him, what the hell would Stannis do? Does he still think he's king? Or does give all that up to travel the land to right wrongs and sing grammatically-correct songs?
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Jun 15, 2015 14:44
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Lycus posted:If she spares him, what the hell would Stannis do? Does he still think he's king? Or does give all that up to travel the land to right wrongs and sing grammatically-correct songs? Take the black perhaps.
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Jun 15, 2015 14:48
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To draw a parallel. In the books Robert Baratheon starts a war in the name of love, a classical cliche. He sees the prince and future king claim Lyanna and decides that if that's what it takes, he'll take down the entire dynasty and become the king. He succeeds even but alas, tragically she dies in the process. Similarly in the show, Allister Thorne starts a mutiny with the Night's Watch against Jon Snow in the name of his love for boy rear end. "Damnit" he says to himself, "if that's what it takes to get me that Ollie's boy rear end then Ill kill this Jon Snow rear end in a top hat and become the Lord Commander." He success as well, but alas Ollie was destined for greater things, to be king of Westeros with Daenerys as his queen. So you see, GRRM in wrong is saying that the show and the books are two different things. They're pretty much the same, just with some characters swapped around here and there. Similar themes and all that.
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Jun 15, 2015 14:49
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I can never take Alliser Thorne seriously because he looks almost exactly like Father Jack from Father Ted.
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Jun 15, 2015 14:50
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Lycus posted:If she spares him, what the hell would Stannis do? Does he still think he's king? Or does give all that up to travel the land to right wrongs and sing grammatically-correct songs? Yeah he's dead, sadly. Slain by a really boring character too. gently caress her and gently caress Ramsay. Two mary sue characters that need to die very soon.
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Jun 15, 2015 14:58
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"Bad pussy"
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Jun 15, 2015 15:16
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D&D accomplished the nearly impossible task of taking very dull and plodding material, speeding it up, inserting fight scenes and drama filled moments, and make it seem worse GRRM the ball is in your corner, time to over disappoint
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Jun 15, 2015 15:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:Tommen tries to get an audience with the high sparrow and is rebuffed. I guess I picture that changing once they kidnap and basically start torturing his mother. w/e, I'm just bitching. In the book Kevan basically lets it happen right? I assume he is spending that time consolidating power / his grip on the consul, etc. Rhgr posted:The Benjen troll is a thing of beauty. I honestly thought we were gonna get a reveal. yeah i got trolled too I wish they had given us some set up / hint of the warg.. I don't know even a wolfs howl or something glimmering in his eye - something. I was expecting to see Mel's shadow on him in the last few seconds, or fire reflected in the blood. If there isn't some hint - it's like they are just pulling it out of their asses. And I mean something more than "Previously on game of thrones... [guy warging into eagle] . Why did they even include that big about Benjen in the "previously..." section anywway. The scene would have worked just fine even if you didn't remember who Benjen was - the fact that Jon jumps up quickly SHOWS you it is important. You don't need loving background on the story to appreciate it.
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Jun 15, 2015 15:40
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I can never take Alliser Thorne seriously because he looks almost exactly like Father Jack from Father Ted. That does significantly improve the show, though.
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Jun 15, 2015 15:44
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Love thst its been pointed out that Balon Greyjoy wins War of Five Kings.
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Jun 15, 2015 15:55
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kcroy posted:Why did they even include that big about Benjen in the "previously..." section anywway. The scene would have worked just fine even if you didn't remember who Benjen was - the fact that Jon jumps up quickly SHOWS you it is important. You don't need loving background on the story to appreciate it. I liked that. It was a set up to add another layer of surprise/misdirection to viewers that haven't read the book. It makes that scene seem like something totally different and gives the stabbing more impact.
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Jun 15, 2015 15:56
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I can never take Alliser Thorne seriously because he looks almost exactly like Father Jack from Father Ted. Craggy Island, also known as Castle Black
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Jun 15, 2015 17:21
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I did the classic "what? Is she gonna die here?" while Myrcella was hugging Jaime lol. What the gently caress is the play there anyway, they have trystane and that boat was like 50 feet away from shore.
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Jun 15, 2015 17:22
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I did the classic "what? Is she gonna die here?" while Myrcella was hugging Jaime lol. I was half-expecting to see Jaime in the distance dive off the ship's deck and start paddling back towards Dorne comedically fast.
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Jun 15, 2015 17:29
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Jun 15, 2015 17:30
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Did I just get spoilered by the loving television show? I'm never watching it again.
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Jun 15, 2015 18:11
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ZombieLenin posted:Did I just get spoilered by the loving television show? I'm never watching it again. you're actually watching the only form of resolution the story will ever have, sadly
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Jun 15, 2015 18:17
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:you're actually watching the only form of resolution the story will ever have, sadly Every time I see GRRM I think, "man you look worse than Robert Jordan's corpse." At least there appears to be significant work done on the next novel, so if GRRM eats one to many pieces of bacon and drops dead, something will be published.
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Jun 15, 2015 18:21
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Even if GRRM dies by falling on his Amiga and destroys the WoW file, D&D know the ending so at least they'll (badly) deliver on Dany and Arya being the last living characters and Arya kills Dany then life must pay for death so Arya suicides and Groot Bran is so sad he he loses his tree connection and the Night King zombies all of Westeros and it becomes a huge ice zombie leper colony that the people of Essos never go to and Illyrio rapes a lemoncake THE END.
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Jun 15, 2015 18:47
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A Major Fucker posted:the tv iv thread says she's extremely pregnant and tattooed The TV IV thread also probably thinks this episode was filmed last week and not months ago.
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Jun 15, 2015 18:56
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The Cersei walk is done by a body double. It came up constantly in articles back when the scene was getting ready to be shot, since at first she was going to wear an effects suit since the town's church refused to let her walk naked in the streets but eventually gave in.Gravybong posted:George still wants to beat the next season, though. No matter what happens, I'll finally get to see something new, unless they fill up the entire next season with Iron Islands Only. Next season is all about the Iron Islands and Young Griff. No mention of the Wall in any way, and then Mereene gets invaded and we get the Knot That Was Promised. Intel&Sebastian posted:I did the classic "what? Is she gonna die here?" while Myrcella was hugging Jaime lol. Yeah the heart to heart makes it clear she's about to die. Though it's a pretty good setup for all but ensuring Dorne's gonna go to war since I imagine they're going to have Jamie and Bronn kill the prince with them, since having him turn the boat around and go snake hunting with Jamie, Bronn, and Areo is something we don't deserve. Plus it'd be a hilariously quick slaughter. ZombieLenin posted:At least there appears to be significant work done on the next novel 
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Jun 15, 2015 19:08
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Finally I get the Battle of Winterfell and it was more than I could have ever imagined! I have no loving idea how this outcome ties in with the pink letter and poo poo. Of course the most faithful scene to books all season is the walk of shame. Jaime getting a second of true fatherly connection was good. Dorne was bad and not redeemed in any way whatsoever. It didn't even end on a hint of Doran having something up his sleeve all along WTF? Benjen troll was good. No Danyrreah was bad, but that was always wishful thinking. poo poo season but bring on on the plot developments next year, I guess.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:24
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something happened, that's good enough for me also show-watchers finally, finally understand. they understand.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:30
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Junkenstein posted:Finally I get the Battle of Winterfell and it was more than I could have ever imagined! I have no loving idea how this outcome ties in with the pink letter and poo poo. We got Varys and Tyrion in Meereen. gently caress "Barristan Fixes Meereen", I can't wait to see the two of them go to work on the place. It might end up almost not being a irredeemable shithole by the time Dany, Jorah, and Daario get back there with her new gently caress off huge Kahlassar.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:41
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nine-gear crow posted:We got Varys and Tyrion in Meereen. gently caress "Barristan Fixes Meereen", I can't wait to see the two of them go to work on the place. It might end up almost not being a irredeemable shithole by the time Dany, Jorah, and Daario get back there with her new gently caress off huge Kahlassar. I'd watch an entire season of Tyrion and Varys trading jabs and ruling a kingdom. Those two compliment one another so well on screen.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:44
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Dorne was so loving awful in retrospect, even worse than when we were still waiting for them to magically make it relevant (like "fire and blood" kind of did). So the whole thing was about Jaime wanting to be a dad? I dont think Jaime and Bronn kill Trystane but someone might once they have him in Kings Landing.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:52
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Same. I absolutely love Varys just being a sassy old queen, it rules and id watch a spinoff of just them. I'm actually really looking forward the trash this thread comes with over the next ten months until the next season. I'm not looking forward to shamefully checking r/asoiaf and watching them desperately try to grasp at any and all straws possible. I bet it's gonna be way worse of a spiral than the one leading up to this season.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:52
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I dont think Jaime and Bronn kill Trystane but someone might once they have him in Kings Landing. He definitely won't be dead by the time they make it to King's Landing, though I imagine he'll have a few chunks of his face missing or broken beyond recovery by the time he's dragged off that boat.
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Jun 15, 2015 20:59
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Jaime is in his hero arc now i dont think he's gonna gently caress up any (more) kids. I hope GRRM is changing his poo poo heavily. Stannis deserves much better than these last two eps.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:20
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Evil Fluffy posted:The Cersei walk is done by a body double. So did she get a face double as well? There were a couple close shots there, but mostly medium and wide from the front and back, so I don't know wtf.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:33
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SaviourX posted:So did she get a face double as well? There were a couple close shots there, but mostly medium and wide from the front and back, so I don't know wtf. Superimposing a star actor's face over a body double is stupid easy with CGI these days. They've been doing it since the original Jurassic Park.
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Jun 15, 2015 21:43
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nine-gear crow posted:Superimposing a star actor's face over a body double is stupid easy with CGI these days. They've been doing it since the original Jurassic Park.
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nine-gear crow posted:He definitely won't be dead by the time they make it to King's Landing, though I imagine he'll have a few chunks of his face missing or broken beyond recovery by the time he's dragged off that boat. Cersei, on the other hand, is absolutely going to have him killed while she's busy lashing out at everything when she finds out her daughter's dead. nine-gear crow posted:Superimposing a star actor's face over a body double is stupid easy with CGI these days. They've been doing it since the original Jurassic Park. Really high quality masks (latex works best I think?) are also pretty incredible. But yeah, having a body double and putting Lena's face on it for the full on nude shots would not be hard for an effects team to do and I'd imagine they went with that over the mask/makeup option since most up close shots of Cersei are her in a crowd where the actual actress was able to be used.
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Invitation{HOG}, M.D. posted:To be honest, we haven't seen her kill Stannis. I can imagine that she chooses not to kill him and that he ends up being rehabilitated or redeemed in some way. I mean, it makes sense that she kills him and I won't be surprised if she does but that end result was not shown. He kept looking off to the side too. I thought it meant someone was approaching but I suppose we must wait to see. Knuc U Kinte posted:The coolest guy in this ep was the sparrow dude who was beating the poo poo out of peasants with his billy club. Yessss I loved that guy. I wanted him to give one of the flashers a shot to the nuts.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:14
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Knuc U Kinte posted:The coolest guy in this ep was the sparrow dude who was beating the poo poo out of peasants with his billy club. How could you forget the shame lady?
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Jun 15, 2015 22:15
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bobkatt013 posted:How could you forget the shame lady? She didn't break a lady's nose.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:22
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Dude that yelled gently caress off at Cersei is the prince who was promised.
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Jun 15, 2015 22:23
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nine-gear crow posted:Superimposing a star actor's face over a body double is stupid easy with CGI these days. They've been doing it since the original Jurassic Park. Cool and all I just assumed they had no budget for that, sandsnakefight.gif
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SaviourX posted:Cool and all I just assumed they had no budget for that, sandsnakefight.gif The Walk was probably the reason they had to scrimp on other poo poo, hence sandsnakefight.gif 
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