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Irish Joe posted:Can someone explain why GRRM is writing about puppies on his blog? What the gently caress is puppygate? If you really want to dive into that rabbit hole ... It's basically an offshoot of gamergate, but for the hugo awards. Basically, there was a group of scifi writers that was butthurt because feminists, "SJWs" and identity politics took over the hugo awards and lots of bad preachy agenda driven scifi was winning awards. Harlan Ellison used to rant about it when it started happening. Some meme started that said something like "when stories like that win, it makes the puppies sad" or something to that effect. They started calling themselves the sad puppies. After gamergate took off they made their own #sadpuppies hashtag and it started trending with gamergate's support and they got enough votes to sweep the hugo awards this past year. Tumblr, twitter and click bait jouralism exploded in outrage and meltdowns abounded. Now there's a whole sadpuppies vs. anti-sadpuppies war going on and it's really stupid and funny and a huge waste of time. GRRM is involved in it and it's more of a means of procrastinating so that he doesn't have to write winds of winter. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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Jun 17, 2015 02:49
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Gianthogweed posted:They started calling themselves the sad puppies. Jesus loving christ. Burn the world.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Jesus loving christ. Burn the world. It's brilliant actually, because then they can call their opposition the anti-sad puppies. Only the truly despicable are anti-puppies. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jun 17, 2015 |
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For one brief shining moment as Brienne was doing the whole "In the name of Renly blah blah, I sentence you to death thing" I actually liked her outside of her and Jaime's bromance scenes and her kicking the Hound's rear end. I got it, the whole one true knight in all of Westeros thing, she swore an oath and she avenged Renly. Then they cut back to Stannis and I lost it because Stannis. I did like that she seemed to expect Stannis to say something? This is Stannis gently caress you Baratheon. He's not going to beg for his life. At least he didn't die to loving Ramsay. Brienne was lame but I'd rather watch her kill my Mannis than have another scene of her wandering around or staring at a castle while Pod frets. Although watching Ramsay try to torture Stannis would be amusing because Stannis would never be Theon. He'd never break like that, he'd probably chew his own wrists open or something. He's still alive in the books. Which means he'll live forever because that fucker will never finish them. Stannis lives! As soon as Myrcella and Jaime had a good moment I knew she was dead. Jaime can't have nice things. The only thing I really liked was Theon admitting he didn't kill Bran and Rickon to Sansa, then saving her. Finally, finally Theon. Christsake, I can stop yelling at every scene he has with Sansa to JUST loving TELL HER. Ghost is the worst direwolf. Protect fatass Sam? He's on it. Watch out for the dude who literally saved your life and bonded with you? Nah, he'll be fine, oh poo poo, my warg senses are tingling...nah, just an itch. At least Nymeria bit the hell out of Joffrey. We can all be proud of that. And Grey Wind was down with the intimidation and killing people thing. Summer's got Bran's back and Shaggydog probably gives less of a poo poo than Rickon who he bites. Lady didn't get a chance to be cool because Sansa was an idiot. Ghost is probably the retarded direwolf. Derping around, Moon Moon'ing while Jon gets stabbed. Christ, this show is loving poo poo. I don't know what is worse, the books or the show. At least in the books we have Frey pie and Strong Belwas and Dany making GBS threads in a field and Dorne doing something besides "bad pussy", even if they gently caress it up. The show makes me want to read the books. But then I remember the last book and ugh.
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Jun 17, 2015 03:04
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So what are the credible theories about a non-obvious person ending up on the Iron Throne? Arianne after Dany shatters the glass ceiling and dies? Sweetrobin as a puppet of Sansa? (Actually house arryn might have some distant targ blood?)
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Gianthogweed posted:It's brilliant actually, because then they can call their opposition the anti-sad puppies. Only the truly despicable are anti-puppies. Anti-sad puppy is Pro-happy puppy. Those loving idiots just made THE SJWs!!!!! the ones who look like they're the positive and good ones, lol.
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Jun 17, 2015 03:16
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yronic heroism posted:So what are the credible theories about a non-obvious person ending up on the Iron Throne? Arianne after Dany shatters the glass ceiling and dies? Sweetrobin as a puppet of Sansa? (Actually house arryn might have some distant targ blood?) Gendry obvsly But no, not gonna happen the show didn't spend enough screentime with him to make it possible
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Jun 17, 2015 03:25
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Anti-sad puppy is Pro-happy puppy. That's true, lol. The SJWs should really take advantage of that.
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yronic heroism posted:So what are the credible theories about a non-obvious person ending up on the Iron Throne? Arianne after Dany shatters the glass ceiling and dies? Sweetrobin as a puppet of Sansa? (Actually house arryn might have some distant targ blood?) I think the Iron Throne will be destroyed at some point. And the Wall has to come down. Maybe part of why George procrastinates is because he's too invested in the fake world he's created and doesn't want to destroy it or change it too much, which he needs to do for the story to be any good. He probably doesn't want to exterminate all the houses like the Beesburies and their rich lore because he's spent 15 years daydreaming about them
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Jun 17, 2015 03:49
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Ague Proof posted:I think the Iron Throne will be destroyed at some point. And the Wall has to come down. I think it's because he wrote himself into a corner one too many times and created so many sprawling plots/subplots (which most people don't give a poo poo about) even he can't finish them all.
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Jun 17, 2015 03:55
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OhYeah posted:I don't know where to begin. The overall drop in quality in both the books and the TV show is astounding... in every aspect. I'm a newcomer to the ASOIAF world and the first three books and the first three seasons are just so much better than what came after. 
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Jun 17, 2015 03:57
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. Literally a stone's throw from Dorne's shore? With Trystane, who is madly in love with Myrcella, on board? To write her death in this manner takes some serious mental retardation.
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Ague Proof posted:Maybe part of why George procrastinates is because he's too invested in the fake world he's created and doesn't want to destroy it or change it too much, which he needs to do for the story to be any good. He probably doesn't want to exterminate all the houses like the Beesburies and their rich lore because he's spent 15 years daydreaming about them then he could at least loving finish the one series and then write about all that poo poo in another
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Jun 17, 2015 03:57
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When will the world finally be rid of Sensitive Joss Whedons?
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Jun 17, 2015 03:58
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empty sea posted:Although watching Ramsay try to torture Stannis would be amusing because Stannis would never be Theon. He'd never break like that, he'd probably chew his own wrists open or something. He's still alive in the books. Which means he'll live forever because that fucker will never finish them. Stannis lives! Reading that made Bond's torture scene in Casino Royale pop into my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_y7YEIphts
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Jun 17, 2015 03:59
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Ape Gone Insane posted:what other series did people like or get into inbetween the waits for these books? Something fairly similar. I need to get into something that is fairly meaty, well-written and complete (or near complete). Wheel of Time sounds like it would be a drag midway and Brandon Sanderson is garbage. Malazan? Wildcards. How can you NOT have read wildcards. Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Can we have a bad thread about Bakker's The Unholy Consult? (this thread got me to read it) The old thread that got archived said it was "forthcoming, probably in mid-to-late 2012" and I'm still waiting!!! Yeah I don't get it - I'm following him on FB and like every day he comes up with some "witty" poo poo when all I really want to hear is when the loving book is coming out. If you are thinking of getting into it - be aware the first book can really drag. And it was hard for me to really care about the main character for a while. But I got good and hooked, and its one of those series I have reread several times. pet peeve: They keep updating the character art on the cover to make Kellus look more and more white. What originally hooked me in was the whole middle eastern / crusades feel.
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empty sea posted:For one brief shining moment as Brienne was doing the whole "In the name of Renly blah blah, I sentence you to death thing" I actually liked her outside of her and Jaime's bromance scenes and her kicking the Hound's rear end. I got it, the whole one true knight in all of Westeros thing, she swore an oath and she avenged Renly. Then they cut back to Stannis and I lost it because Stannis. I did like that she seemed to expect Stannis to say something? This is Stannis gently caress you Baratheon. He's not going to beg for his life. At least he didn't die to loving Ramsay. Brienne was lame but I'd rather watch her kill my Mannis than have another scene of her wandering around or staring at a castle while Pod frets. I'm betting Stannis is still alive. After he said the whole "go on, do yer duty" line, I bet Brienne just swung her sword at the tree in anger because he reminded her of the oath she made Catelyn Stark and her whole conversation with Jaime and the whole Oathbringer thing, blah, blah, blah. She's gonna take Stannis captive and use him to get herself into Winterfell to try and rescue Sansa. The joke is that Theon and Sansa are already gone so Brienne gets to "team up" with Roose and Ramsey to find them. Maybe?????
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Jun 17, 2015 04:06
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Blind Sally posted:I'm betting Stannis is still alive. After he said the whole "go on, do yer duty" line, I bet Brienne just swung her sword at the tree in anger because he reminded her of the oath she made Catelyn Stark and her whole conversation with Jaime and the whole Oathbringer thing, blah, blah, blah. She's gonna take Stannis captive and use him to get herself into Winterfell to try and rescue Sansa. The joke is that Theon and Sansa are already gone so Brienne gets to "team up" with Roose and Ramsey to find them. Stannis is dead according to both D&D and Davos's actor: http://www.accesshollywood.com/game-of-thrones-liam-cunningham-on-saying-goodbye-to-his-co-star_article_108851 http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/game-of-thrones-finale-cliffhangers
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Jun 17, 2015 04:17
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Yeah the name of the game is simplifying, meaning kill off whoever is not needed to bring the plot to a close in a couple seasons.
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Blind Sally posted:I'm betting Stannis is still alive. After he said the whole "go on, do yer duty" line, I bet Brienne just swung her sword at the tree in anger because he reminded her of the oath she made Catelyn Stark and her whole conversation with Jaime and the whole Oathbringer thing, blah, blah, blah. She's gonna take Stannis captive and use him to get herself into Winterfell to try and rescue Sansa. The joke is that Theon and Sansa are already gone so Brienne gets to "team up" with Roose and Ramsey to find them. That would actually be a really cool plot twist, and would continue Brienne's pattern of winding up on the side of her enemies in the effort of trying to fulfill her oath. It would also put Sansa and Brienne on opposite sides (Sansa would be the lady Stoneheart as many have predicted).
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empty sea posted:For one brief shining moment as Brienne was doing the whole "In the name of Renly blah blah, I sentence you to death thing" I actually liked her outside of her and Jaime's bromance scenes and her kicking the Hound's rear end. I got it, the whole one true knight in all of Westeros thing, she swore an oath and she avenged Renly. Then they cut back to Stannis and I lost it because Stannis. I did like that she seemed to expect Stannis to say something? This is Stannis gently caress you Baratheon. He's not going to beg for his life. At least he didn't die to loving Ramsay. Brienne was lame but I'd rather watch her kill my Mannis than have another scene of her wandering around or staring at a castle while Pod frets. p much agree with all this. Remember when direwolves mattered? FourLeaf posted:It's because there's no sense of tension or danger at all. Book Tyrion is constantly making sarcastic comments and insults in his head but it doesn't seem smug because he's being beaten, dragged around in chains, enslaved for more than 3 seconds, and humiliated constantly by riding on a pig. He's also given in to his bitterness and self-hatred and become a near-suicidal rapist monster. thanks, that makes sense.
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Jun 17, 2015 05:45
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lol at Grrm wasting so much time on internet drama and writing so many words about it that he coulda finished TWOW already if they were about Westeros instead. Someone please link him those Chrischan forums
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Jun 17, 2015 06:06
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Has "Houses that look like GoT characters" been posted yet? Went back like half a dozen pages and didn't see anything, apologies if so: http://www.sadanduseless.com/2015/06/got-buildings/  
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Jun 17, 2015 06:11
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It's hilarious that the bad thread is reduced to posting casting spoilers. Godspeed you absolute fucker.
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Ape Gone Insane posted:what other series did people like or get into inbetween the waits for these books? Something fairly similar. I need to get into something that is fairly meaty, well-written and complete (or near complete). Wheel of Time sounds like it would be a drag midway and Brandon Sanderson is garbage. Malazan? Here you go. This series and the standalone novels. Someone suggested them in an asoiaf thread a long time ago, and I love whoever that was. http://www.amazon.com/The-Blade-Itself-First-Book-ebook/dp/B002VHI8FE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Law Gurm ain't got poo poo on Abercrombie.
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Typo posted:Stannis is dead according to both D&D and Davos's actor: i mean, yeah, that's probably all true, so i'm not going to be terribly surprised whatever the outcome is, but Kit Harrington's been going around claiming "no, I swear, my character is really dead" and I'm not convinced.
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kcroy posted:If you are thinking of getting into it - be aware the first book can really drag. And it was hard for me to really care about the main character for a while. But I got good and hooked, and its one of those series I have reread several times. pet peeve: They keep updating the character art on the cover to make Kellus look more and more white. What originally hooked me in was the whole middle eastern / crusades feel. Norsirai are light-skinned, with blond hair and blue eyes even  I guess I assumed Achamian was the one on the cover.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Norsirai are light-skinned, with blond hair and blue eyes even you are right - it just bugged me because the mideast stuff was the hook you know?
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oops forgot to post this gemquote:As a popular fan theory goes, Tyrion may actually be a Targaryen, owing to an affair between mother Joanna and Aerys Targaryen, a.k.a. the Mad King. We’ve heard his father Tywin remark, “I can’t prove you are not my son” and, later, “You are no son of mine.” This sets him up to be Dany’s half-brother and an eventual co-ruler.
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Blind Sally posted:i mean, yeah, that's probably all true, so i'm not going to be terribly surprised whatever the outcome is, but Kit Harrington's been going around claiming "no, I swear, my character is really dead" and I'm not convinced. Jon Snow is really dead though, it's just that he's gonna get resurrected by Melisandre, hopefully davos shanks her afterwards
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Typo posted:Stannis is dead according to both D&D and Davos's actor: The best part of this season is watching people everywhere go "NU STANNIS AN JON AREN'T DEAD IT'S A FAKEOUT BY THE ACTORS THEY'RE GONNA BE BACK "kcroy posted:Remember when direwolves mattered? Yeah I remember book 1 and part of book 2. Barack HUSSEIN posted:Here you go. This series and the standalone novels. Someone suggested them in an asoiaf thread a long time ago, and I love whoever that was. The Blade Itself. Book one in the "Everyone is a Giant rear end in a top hat" trilogy.
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Typo posted:Jon Snow is really dead though, it's just that he's gonna get resurrected by Melisandre, hopefully davos shanks her afterwards that;s exactly wat i'm trying to say 
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Indeed, all Joffrey's courtesy vanished at once when Tyrion presented him with their own gift: a huge old book called A Dance With Dragons, bound in leather and gorgeously illuminated. The king leafed through it with no interest. "And what is this, Uncle?" "Grand Maester Martin's history of the slavers of the free cities and the sexual escapades of a sixteen year old girl," Sansa's small husband answered. "A book every king should read, Your Grace," said Ser Kevan. "My father died before he could read Dance." Joffrey shoved the tome across the table. "If Martin had spent less time writing about football and going to conventions, perhaps we'd have A Dream of Spring by now." He laughed...and when the king laughs, the court laughs with him. Lord Tywin waited until last to present the king with his own gift: a longsword. King Joffrey looked as if he wanted to kill someone right then and there, he was so excited. "A great sword must have a great name, my lords! What shall I call it?" The guests were shouting out names for the new blade. Joff dismissed a dozen before he heard one he liked. "Wildcards!" he cried, and then he brought the sword down in a savage two-hand slice on the book that Tyrion had given him. He flicked a chunk of A Dance With Dragons off the table at swordpoint, then slid Wildcards back into its scabbard. "Your Grace," Ser Garlan Tyrell said. "Perhaps you did not know. In all of Westeros there were but four copies of that book illuminated on Martin's own old rear end computer." "Now there are three." Joffrey undid his old swordbelt to don his new one. "You and Lady Sansa owe me a better present. This one was dumb as hell.
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Jun 17, 2015 08:30
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Stannis is dead. The Mannis rules forever.
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No loving way is Stannis dead. You don't leave a question mark over the death of one of the most important characters like that if it's not meant to be a cliffhanger of sorts. Even the poo poo Show isn't that bad. "Do your duty!" Brienne swung her sword. Fade to black is the show's version of They hung Brienne, she screamed a word. Fade to black
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Junkenstein posted:No loving way is Stannis dead. You don't leave a question mark over the death of one of the most important characters like that if it's not meant to be a cliffhanger of sorts. Even the poo poo Show isn't that bad. Some people ITT also thought Jon's death in ADWD was a cliffhanger, whereas when you actually read the scene it's obvious that it's conclusively lethal (likewise on the show)
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kcroy posted:p much agree with all this. back when the starks mattered
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less laughter posted:Some people ITT also thought Jon's death in ADWD was a cliffhanger, whereas when you actually read the scene it's obvious that it's conclusively lethal (likewise on the show) Yeah but some people who actually read the books remember how the ADWD prologue spends about 5 paragraphs establishing in no uncertain terms that a warg's consciousness transfers to their wolf once they die. Just reader things.
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