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Poil posted:Thanks. Ah, ok. Thermo (and low-light) simply act by removing or lowering situational penalties on a perception roll per the Environmental Modifiers/Environmental Compensation rules. Generally, if you're just trying to spot something, you simply pick the option that gives you the most net dice to roll. The only difference astral perception should make in that regard is that there aren't all that many (environmental) modifiers that apply. You have background count, maybe masking, and that's about it. Beyond that, you can treat it as any other sense as long as that's how it's being used (i.e. you're not trying any kind of assensing or identifying signatures or something equally technical or fancy), so there really shouldn't be any reason why the regular rules can't apply. That means that if you're actively looking for a living aura that is supposed to stand out against a dead background, you'd get +5 dice straight off: +3 for actively searching, and +2 because it stands out against the background. If they're not trying to hide (best done by being in a crowd rather than a dark alley), the threshold for anything magically active or dual-natured in such a situation would probably be 1 — it really is the astral equivalent of a neon sign — whereas a mundane aura would be a 2. Spotting a non-living aura under the same circumstances would arguably qualify for 3 or 4. That goes back to the older discussion about aiming in astral: in a complete reversal of how it would normally play out, you might spot the guy in the alley with ease, but completely miss the gyro-mounted chromed minigun he's carrying…
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Poil posted:Thanks. if you are asking if astrally perceiving lets you see through everything, no, it does not.
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Tippis posted:Ah, ok. Thermo (and low-light) simply act by removing or lowering situational penalties on a perception roll per the Environmental Modifiers/Environmental Compensation rules. Generally, if you're just trying to spot something, you simply pick the option that gives you the most net dice to roll.  Swags posted:if you are asking if astrally perceiving lets you see through everything, no, it does not. 
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So I started work at that healthcare company I mentioned, and the security is even stronger than I saw on the initial interview tour. Also, I'm basically working in an arcology. AMA that isn't the name of the company.
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Solid Poopsnake posted:So I started work at that healthcare company I mentioned, and the security is even stronger than I saw on the initial interview tour. Also, I'm basically working in an arcology. AMA that isn't the name of the company. What's the stock market ticker?  (you DID say anything)
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SirFozzie posted:What's the stock market ticker? hurr hurr hurr
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Jun 26, 2015 03:18
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So if I broke into there, how many cameras could I expect to have to get by? How much data of worth do you estimate would be in their computer systems? Do the guards deserve a non-lethal or lethal run? How pink should my mohawk be?
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What kind of services are available in the building you're in? How many buildings like that are there?
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To chime in on this here is a summary of security at a small to medium sized defence company dealing with sensitive technology for government customers. I will remain vague enough not to give anything away! Physical Security: All staff members had electronic security passes which were required for entry through every external and internal door apart from the entrances to the toilets, tailgating was pretty much impossible. Nobody would ever let anyone through a door without a pass unless they personally recognised them. In fact seeing somebody who was not recognised and without a visible pass was fairly reliably reported to security. All ground floor windows barred, every room was rigged with motion sensors that were activated once the building was empty for the evening causing an alarm to be sounded if anything moved. Outside of normal opening hours keypads were required in addition to security passes to open any door. The security staff consisted of a half dozen middle aged guys who responded to alarms and suchlike though and not all buildings even had a constant presence. Personnel: All permanent staff required to go through medium/high level government security clearance, all contract staff still required security clearance to the basic level. Everyone without these security clearances (visitors, temps, maintenance contractors) was escorted the entire time whilst on site. Anyone seen hanging around any of the buildings was fairly quickly reported to security – on one occasion a photographer was hired to take photographs of the buildings for the company website during the day and though he never did more than walk around outside he was reported to security at more than half of the sites. Generally speaking even entirely legitimate visitors (who had to be cleared in advance) would find whomever was hosting them quizzed to double check security. Electronic: Very heavy firewalls on the 'Green' network, which was the normal network used for everyday activities, white list external websites available, etc. Pretty standard for a competent IT savvy company but nothing exceptional. However anything sensitive was held on the 'Red' network. All network cables for the Red network were routed in armoured conduits with anti tamper tech on them while Red network computers were in separate rooms with security pass locked doors, the interior and external windows obscured. When a Red network computer was not in use the hard drive would be physically removed and locked in a combination safe. It was completely air gapped from the Green network and only connected to the outside world through hardware based encryption units that used one time pads at both ends. No electronic devices were allowed on site apart from company issued laptops and blackberries (which had the cameras physically disabled). All personal mobiles, visitor laptops, tablets, etc had to be left in lockers that were provided in the reception areas of each building. There was not any kind of screening for this to be fair, you could walk in with your phone in your pocket, but if anyone saw you with it then you could be in serious trouble. Also no wifi anywhere.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:10
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Sounds like pink mohawk is the way to go. None of that will even slow down a determined troll with a grenade launcher
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Seriously, very little of that could stop a dikoted mono-dachi.
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KittyEmpress posted:So if I broke into there, how many cameras could I expect to have to get by? How much data of worth do you estimate would be in their computer systems? There is a camera in every discrete room and plentiful cameras in large, open spaces. Guards range from young men who take this poo poo way too serious to old retirees cruising around in carts. Unarmed all around, but plentiful, with radios, flashlights, and phones. If your mohawk is very pink, you'd jump the exterior steel, ten-foot-high, RFID-activated turnstyles. The internal doors you'd want to explode. Kumaton posted:What kind of services are available in the building you're in? How many buildings like that are there? Pretty much every entry point everywhere has RFID doors or turnstyles. There are several internal entrances with the former AND latter, which are in LOS of a security desks. Even random-seeming hallways inside the complex have RFID turnstyles or doors. It looks like everywhere but bathrooms have camera coverage and almost every bathroom is inside the perimeter (except one I found, but you can't get anywhere from it). The server building (which I saw peripherally on the tour and was not pointed out) needs handprint access, as does the NOC, which is surrounded by glass instead of walls and is along a dense traffic route. Access is very tightly controlled (like Executive VP of <X> doesn't have access to Area <Y> without a manager escort). What I'm saying is that it makes it difficult to smoke off-campus with a 15-minute break. Especially since I live in the Valley and it's a million degrees and humid right now.
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Jun 27, 2015 02:59
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Maybe if your mohawk is hot-pink you could hang-glide onto the roof of the area you want to "infiltrate", and use thermite/explosives to access? I don't know the roof situation. There's lots of mountains around.
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…then again, in a pink-mohawk world, the place would have monowire mesh covering the roof and pop-up autocannon turrets for just such an occasion.
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How easy would it be to get access if someone kidnapped one of the employees and pasted their picture on the ID? Are the IDs connected to employee data enough so that they'd be caught? :3c I mean if you're going to go in sneaky, do it proper, right? Use that disguise skill!
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To be fair if you wanted to steal the design drawings from some high tech company the biggest problem would normally be finding it on whatever networks they are using, regardless of any security issues. At the moment I am working for a big aerospace company in a management role and if I need drawings for a given component? It normally takes 1-2 days for it to be retrieved from whatever random folder it was stuffed into by the design engineer, with nobody but them and a random smattering of their colleagues or people who were copied in on a relevant email knowing where to look. We literally have tens of thousands of components where we have not been able to find the design drawings, we know they exist given the items have been manufactured, but corporate has been unable to locate them despite bringing in in a team of contractors for the specific purpose and spending months at it. You could probably get hold of a whole bunch of completely random sensitive intellectual property by grab bagging off the network but anything specific? Not a chance without serious inside information. Patrat fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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I found someone worse than using Excel for databasing. Using OUTLOOK ATTACHMENTS for databasing. I'm currently compiling my own index since my job is unfucking the system in general. As it currently stands, all emails are forwarded to everyone else and if someone doesn't email/get emailed, it means lost information somewhere. Also our attachments are manifests our semi-literate ex-con drivers write in pencil before being scanned into a 20 year old scanner. There's a lot of biblical-style interpretation. We can't even go to paperless/signatures on file because several of the clients SELL US THEIR OWN PAPER MANIFESTS which we have to use to document own business with them. After its scanned into email databasing we have to physically print them out and mail them, again, at the clients request (and these are monster, nation-wide entities, not just  type mom and pop things)Other SR themes present: neither me nor do the default tier 1 managers get an increase in pay and when I asked what I needed to do to get a raise I was told flat out, no one gets more money other than a $.50/hr/yr cost of living increase. Also the place gives national holidays off but you have to work the saturday before so...time to cast my net further adrift here. I am doing productive work here, my boss took time off to see the doctor for the first time in 10 years once I took up some of the workload. Part of why I assume she looks 50 going on 150. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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ProfessorCirno posted:How easy would it be to get access if someone kidnapped one of the employees and pasted their picture on the ID? Are the IDs connected to employee data enough so that they'd be caught? :3c Specific areas of responsibility are actually quite small, so you get to know everyone pretty quick. Like, if you kidnapped me and stole my face and successfully interrogated me to determine which domain the data you wanted was on, and where to physically go and what to do and get it, you could get in the building and get to that area pretty easily. But once that happens and you're in my team area, people will probably know me well enough to know you're not me. Namely, you would probably smile and offer some kind of pleasantry when confronted with one of my teammates, instead of glaring and saying "if you don't get away from me, I am going to snap all of your joints so I can stuff you, screaming in agony, into a child's coffin." which is a dead giveaway.
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Update, apparently our entire inventory system has been destroyed by a disgruntled 60 year old secretary who destroyed all the physical copies by gathering them into a giant pile and pouring shitloads of coffee ground on them (which had apparently been stored and collected for this purpose) before storming off.
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Are there any restrictions for which guns you can't dual wield? I can't find any rules against holding an assault rifle or a shotgun in each hand. But I am asking because I'm considering using two SMG's, as an ork. -Is the Renraku Tsurugi cyberdeck enough when starting out? They're so freakishly expensive. -How many dice should I be aiming for to be adequate or competent at decking? -How many times do I need to read the matrix rules before they make sense and I can actually use them?  Is there a simplified cheat sheet or something that describes how the hell I go from standing around to jacking in, entering a system and getting a soda machine to pop out a free one? Just as an example.
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Poil posted:Are there any restrictions for which guns you can't dual wield? I can't find any rules against holding an assault rifle or a shotgun in each hand. But I am asking because I'm considering using two SMG's, as an ork. The Renraku should be fine, I'm using a Novatech as it is. You can swap two attributes as a free action on your turn, so you don't have to worry too much about which is set to which....but really all your deck stats count for is your limit anyway. I'm throwing between 10 and 13 dice depending on the skill and specialization, and still fail at times. I highly recommend having the Sneak program on at all times, it gives +2 dp defense against Trace User and prevents GOD from finding your physical location if your overwatch score catches up to you. To hack a soda machine, here's how it would work: It's probably not running silently, so you wouldn't need to do anything to spot it in the matrix. If it was, you'd need to use Matrix Perception. Use Hack on the Fly to get marks. Telling it to pop out a soda is probably a simple action, so you'd need to get 2 marks. Use Control Device (Electronic Warfare + Intuition [Sleaze] vs Intuition + Firewall) to tell it to pop out the drink. It's a soda machine, if your DM is rolling a bunch of dice for its defense rolls, he's an idiot. I'd assume probably 3-4 dice for the defense pool. Control Device mark requirements vary based on the type of action you're getting the device to do, free is 1, simple 2, and complex 3. 3 marks and a successful Format Device followed by a Reboot Device is a good way to gently caress up an opponent's cyberdeck or commlink. I've used it to gently caress up a security host (probably shouldn't have been able to by the stupid host rules that have come out since) by following real-world computer logic. Gun things I have very little knowledge about, so can't help you there.
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I'm looking at trying to make a Gun Mystic Adept for a 5e game. Since I've never built a magic character in Shadowrun, I was wondering if there were any newbie traps I should be aware of. Also unsure how to prioritize all these weird magic skills; Spellcasting seems important, but other than that, not sure.
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I'm no expert and my opinion is just from theory crafting and my experiences with 4th edition, but for a mage you want everything or at least most of it: Spellcasting, to succeed at casting spells Counterspelling, to protect against hostile spells Arcana, to learn new spells faster. Assessing, to know what in the world anything magical is. Astral Combat, to fight on the astral plane without having to resort to purely mana spells but you Summoning/Binding, to get spirits to do your bidding and spirits are pretty powerful. Banishing, to get rid of hostile spirits conjured up against you. You could try and kill them instead though. I haven't got a clue about useful enchanting and alchemy is. Make sure to roll a lot of dice (10+) to resist drain so you can throw around decently powerful spells without fear of knocking yourself out. But I think it mostly depends on why you want your character to cast spells and which spells you plan to use. Keeping buff spells running is a -2 penalty for each spell unless you use foci or the focused concentration quality (only works for one spell). If you plan to only use weak spells that doesn't require a lot of net hits you could get away with lower numbers I think. taiyoko posted:The Renraku should be fine, I'm using a Novatech as it is. You can swap two attributes as a free action on your turn, so you don't have to worry too much about which is set to which....but really all your deck stats count for is your limit anyway.
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Chrome Flesh is off to print. And, honestly, that's a pretty kickass front cover.
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Hahahah, oh wow. That is enormously better than Pink w/cyberarms on the cover of 4th's.
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Nice they managed to get most of the core rules out before sixth edition.
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Are there even any Matrix actions that take Free Actions that make Control Action or Puppeteer worth doing it for attempting to get only a free action?
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Swags posted:Are there even any Matrix actions that take Free Actions that make Control Action or Puppeteer worth doing it for attempting to get only a free action?
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That's the only one I can think of, and a quick skim of the matrix section didn't turn up others.
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So as part of an elaborate assassination plot, tonight our shadowrunners used their skills to film a faked porno.
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Poil posted:I'm no expert and my opinion is just from theory crafting and my experiences with 4th edition, but for a mage you want everything or at least most of it: I made a troll mystic adept who is good at resisting drain, casting spells, summoning, and fighting with guns, but currently lacks foci and lacks so many magic skills he's flying totally blind. It is pretty much the opposite of what I am typically comfortable playing. One character type that I think works really well for people new to the system is Attributes A, Skills B, Human C, Resources D, Magic E. You'll end up ignoring the most complicated parts of the system (magic, decking) and giving up on combat hyper specialization in exchange for being able to do a stupid number of things reasonably well and being absurdly lucky whenever you need to be. It also encourages you to come up with absurd low-fi ways of doing things. I
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taiyoko posted:So as part of an elaborate assassination plot, tonight our shadowrunners used their skills to film a faked porno. Was it a gay porno.
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Mr Tastee posted:Was it a gay porno. There are some things just to sacred, lines that cannot be crossed. Those shadowrunners had too much integrity to fake a gay porno.
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Mr Tastee posted:Was it a gay porno. It was, in fact. A gay porno of (a trid phantasm of) the target's son getting railed in the rear end by a troll, to be sent to the target with a note of "if you don't want us sending this to the press, show up with 200,000 nuyen." Said target is an anti-metahuman rights politician with ties to Humanis.
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Does incriminating footage mean anything in a world where trid phantasm is known to exist?
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Ronwayne posted:Does incriminating footage mean anything in a world where trid phantasm is known to exist? I suppose that depends on the legitimacy and likelihood of the threat.
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Ronwayne posted:Does incriminating footage mean anything in a world where trid phantasm is known to exist? Do incriminating photos mean anything in a world where photoshop is know to exist?
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And Chrome Flesh is out. I cannot wait for the horrorshows I will find in this book! Edit: Apparently wireless, size-adjustable breast implants are back.
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