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Arcsquad12 posted:Jon's execution in the book made sense, because he broke his vows. Show Jon got killed because the Night's Watch is full of dicks, not because of any actual crime against their code. gently caress, even show Davos reinforces the notion that the Watch is a shield for mankind, which includes the Free Folk. What you're supposed to take from the billion scenes of Jon vs [Night's Watch person] is that the vows have morphed from "Shield to protect mankind" to "Shield to protect from Wildings". So in a sense he really did break his vows.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Jon's minor bad choice involved a bullshit plot twist that he was shoehorned into by his author Jon has earned his execution by his fellow brothers, they seem to have remembered their vows better than he did. Fixed that for you.
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AStrangeDuelist posted:Fixed that for you. Because Jon Snow is a real person with his own wants and desires.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:49
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The Watch is what would happen to any nobel order of defenders of the realm if they faced no real threat for thousands of years. They have stagnated and are focused on the small potatos they actually face. John gets shanked because he announces, explicitly, that he is going to use the watch to get involved in politics south of the wall which is strictly against policy.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:50
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Not only that but the others are coming, in the first book Osha tells Bran that the old gods are whispering that Robb is riding the wrong way, that all armies should ride north to man the wall, for Jon to take the wildling armies raised by Mance beyond the wall to fight for winterfell is about the worst thing a lord commander of the night's watch could do at that point. But anyway Jon is coming back, and he's probably gonna realize he was an idiot and forgive the watch. Unrelated somewhat but here's another paragraph foreshadowing that Jon is Azor Ahai: quote:Frog-faced Lord Slynt sat at the end of the council table wearing a black velvet doublet and a shiny cloth-of-gold cape, nodding with approval every time the king pronounced a sentence. Sansa stared hard at his ugly face, remembering how he had thrown down her father for Ser Ilyn to behead, wishing she could hurt him, wishing that some hero would throw him down and cut off his head. But a voice inside her whispered, There are no heroes, and she remembered what Lord Petyr had said to her, here in this very hall. "Life is not a song, sweetling," he'd told her. "You may learn that one day to your sorrow." In life, the monsters win, she told herself, and now it was the Hound's voice she heard, a cold rasp, metal on stone. "Save yourself some pain, girl, and give him what he wants."
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Jul 10, 2015 23:59
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Martin says the new ASOIAF book is scheduled for release in October. You heard it here first.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:26
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha all that poo poo. What year? What century? Are you telling me that there are not eleventymillion Wild cards books in-between?
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Jul 11, 2015 00:32
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a water-damaged publication of the winds of winter prologue will be available this october
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Jul 11, 2015 00:34
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If it were to be released this October it would already be edited and be at the printers.
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I sense doubt. What have I done not to be trusted? This comes from the primary source, the Not a Book:quote:Jul. 10th, 2015 04:51 pm (UTC) Woodpile fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Jul 11, 2015 00:39
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Amoeba102 posted:If it were to be released this October it would already be edited and be at the printers. You can print a book in a month, especially if you book the presses ahead of time and know you will 100% be selling every copy. Look at the new 50 Shades of Grey book, that went from announced to published super quickly because she wrote it in 3 months *shudders* Of course the only new ASOIAF book we'll be getting this October are water damaged calandars.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:50
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Then there's distribution and book stores putting their orders in etc. If it's been fast tracked,I guess I'll find out in a day or two. His publishers had the official release at July 2017 last time they informed anyone about it.
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Amoeba102 posted:Then there's distribution and book stores putting their orders in etc. If it's been fast tracked,I guess I'll find out in a day or two. His publishers had the official release at July 2017 last time they informed anyone about it. Publishers have a lot of balls in the air. And Jane Johnson (one of Martin's bosses) couldn't find a ball if it landed in her cooze. Book. ASOIAF. October.
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I'll wait to hear something in the next few days. If it's October I will hear about it.
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"Re: Winds of Winter The next book is A KNIGHT OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS. Scheduled for release in October."
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A quick search online finds a few sites mentioning an October release for the book but they all go off rumors and speculation at best.Rhgr posted:You can print a book in a month, especially if you book the presses ahead of time and know you will 100% be selling every copy. Look at the new 50 Shades of Grey book, that went from announced to published super quickly because she wrote it in 3 months *shudders* Brandon Sanderson wrote Alloy of Law while on a long(ish?) flight. Some people are inhuman writing machines while others are GRRM and Patrick Rothfuss.
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this_is_hard posted:"Re: Winds of Winter Dunk and Egg counts as ASOIAF, right? I coulda done this better.
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Jul 11, 2015 01:19
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Whats the story behind water logged books?
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Jul 11, 2015 03:46
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Whats the story behind water logged books? During the long night between feast and dance, george kept posting on his blog trying to sell out of date "water-damaged" asoiaf calendars that he found in his house or something. It was sad and also angering to read about in lieu of news about the way late book.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:48
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:During the long night between feast and dance, george kept posting on his blog trying to sell out of date "water-damaged" asoiaf calendars that he found in his house or something. It was sad and also angering to read about in lieu of news about the way late book. ahahah that kind of contempt for your fans can't be an accident.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:50
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah that kind of contempt for your fans can't be an accident. It was during the wait between Feast and Dance, before the HBO show was stuffing GRRM's bank account and the advances from his publisher had long dried up. So the only way for GRRM to make money was to hawk signed books and year old calendars he found in his damp basement on his blog.
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Jul 11, 2015 03:52
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I am sorry they were water-damaged, out of print, "Guardians of Order GAME OF THRONES rpg books". There were different prices for "minor damage" and "major damage".
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Jul 11, 2015 03:57
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GRRM's career/life was destined to end like an old washed up pro-wrestler making the low end convention circuit until HBO hosed it all up.
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Jul 11, 2015 04:02
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http://www.foodworldnews.com/articl...n-snow-live.htm From the Food World News: book 6 is finished and ready to go.
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Jul 11, 2015 04:09
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hello i am geigre rr martin esteemed author of a song of ice and fire mostly i like to ghost edit wold cards have you read wild cards if not click here 9 i dunno how to do this ty?#0 i will be appearing at argohjaergohj and asrghoasgohjrghjsrgjh convention becaue titties boy howdy wordstar is sure great. anyway somethign about fottball 9 i mean american football0 somethign else and did i mentiojn wild cardss?
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Jul 11, 2015 04:36
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Words are wind
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my keyboard ha given up on the left hand ide and capital and everything the for'ard and back in baic fp game be gone. gently caress i look like a retard mebbe i can rite aoif? me gurm me rite hard i do not do convention me catch hbo i ear me finih firt. gently caress. *Goe and get ne keyboard*
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rejutka posted:my keyboard ha given up on the left hand ide and capital and everything the for'ard and back in baic fp game be gone. gently caress i look like a retard mebbe i can rite aoif? me gurm me rite hard i do not do convention me catch hbo i ear me finih firt. this checks out because a lot of grrms writing sounds like he's having a stroke
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Jul 11, 2015 06:16
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When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves, when GRRM sits down and writes. Then he will finish a book, not before.
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Jul 11, 2015 06:45
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I hope that the new book, The Unholy Consult, will release before the new season of HBO's A GAME OF THRONES.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I hope that the new book, The Unholy Consult, will release before the new season of HBO's A GAME OF THRONES. I'm really surprised it isn't out yet. I read he finished the first draft in october 2013 - so I was expecting to see it out this past holiday season... Have you read any of the preview chapters? ( http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?board=4.0 ) Others of you might enjoy this post from Bakker about his goals for the series. In it a friend mentions some of the problems of long fantasy series... All of which apply to ASOIAF... quote:He started listing all the notorious foibles of the high fantasy long form, how the plot-lines ‘bush,’ how the quality of subsequent installments drops off as the author’s enthusiasm inevitably wanes, and how it was simply impossible, given the sheer creaking weight of all the verbiage that has come before, to provide a climax that was anything but anti-climactic… https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/the-four-goads-at-the-crossroads/ kcroy fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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kcroy posted:I'm really surprised it isn't out yet. I read he finished the first draft in october 2013 - so I was expecting to see it out this past holiday season... Have you read any of the preview chapters? ( http://www.second-apocalypse.com/index.php?board=4.0 ) Yeah, I just finished a reread too, man was there a lot more stuff I picked up this time. Knowing what was going on made the Seswatha dreams at the beginning much more interesting. I'm ready for more. Sounds like the publisher is just sitting on it too: quote:And lastly, things keep dragging on with my publishers regarding The Unholy Consult. My delay turning the manuscript in and the quick turnover of editorial staff in the industry means that no one was up to speed on the series–but six months on from submission, and still we have no word. My fear (not my agent’s) is that they might be re-evaluating their commitment to the series–the way all publishers are reviewing their commitments to their midlist authors. I know for a fact that other publishers are interested in snapping the series up, so there’s no need to organize a wake, but who knows what kind of delay would result. Perhaps shooting them emails explaining why they should believe this series will continue growing might help? I dunno.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah that kind of contempt for your fans can't be an accident. There's a reason the Bad Thread got so bad and Neil Gaiman stepped in to try and justify GRRM being a shitbird.
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Jul 11, 2015 09:45
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So if the book does release in October (it won't) we should start a betting pool for who the ghostwriter(s) was/were.
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mind the walrus posted:So if the book does release in October (it won't) we should start a betting pool for who the ghostwriter(s) was/were. That would be really funny.
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RA Salvatore
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Terry Goodkind or John Norman.
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Which Terry is the racist pervert, Goodkind or Brooks? I hope they go with him.
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