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Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
lol if you want to launder money and don't have a gus-from-breaking-bad style enterprise set up

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

it's 25k not like 25 million, just deposit a couple hundred a week and no one would really notice

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

how about under the table home improvements?

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

if you are someone for whom 25k is a huge windfall, it's not like you're going to even pay that much in taxes

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

how would you even report that? a gift?

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

no, gift taxes are paid by the giver. i guess it would just be folded into gross income.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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if it's really cash from the dude's parents there's a couple tax implications if the parents are deceased and maybe it'd be possible to bundle the money into the initial wealth transfer and oh my god just rent a loving safe deposit box and blend in a thousand bucks into your income once in a while

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



surebet posted:

if it's really cash from the dude's parents there's a couple tax implications if the parents are deceased and maybe it'd be possible to bundle the money into the initial wealth transfer and oh my god just rent a loving safe deposit box and blend in a thousand bucks into your income once in a while

basically.

pay bills with a bank account, buy groceries and other small staple purchases with cash.

OR do it the bitcoin way

Deposit $8300 cash into your bank, then transfer it to a bitcoin exchange the next day. repeat two more times. buy bitcoins. watch your money disappear. post in r/bitcoin when you get a letter from the irs.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

jetz0r posted:

Deposit $8300 cash into your bank, then transfer it to a bitcoin exchange the next day. repeat two more times. buy bitcoins. watch your money disappear. post in r/bitcoin when you get a letter from the irs.

$8300 is $10k minus bitcoin's no fees, right?

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



gschmidl posted:

$8300 is $10k minus bitcoin's no fees, right?

25k/3

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/24/us-usa-bitcoin-winklevoss-iduskcn0py2b620150724
apparently that winklevii exchange is still happening. eventually.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
lmao, how is this still ongoing

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
i imagine everywhere that their company name of Gemini is mentioned in the paperwork, the twins have added a little initialed note saying "get it? because there's two of us and we are twins."

Captain Cool
Oct 23, 2004

This is a song about messin' with people who've been messin' with you

trucutru posted:

poorly. butts are one of the worst "database" systems known to man.
someone in one of these threads described bitcoin as "the least efficient database possible" which is my favorite definition

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
that sounds like a challenge

come on yospos we can do this

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Soricidus posted:

that sounds like a challenge

come on yospos we can do this

a graph database where the nodes are pigeons and the edges are boats :sureboat: :sureboat:

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

Soricidus posted:

that sounds like a challenge

come on yospos we can do this

i'll make the wiki that uses it

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Soricidus posted:

that sounds like a challenge

come on yospos we can do this

what if we put the blockchain in the blockchain, to keep track of every node that had a complete list of transactions, but with only floats

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
so every character has it's own sidechain and to store data you simply send a multipart transaction that has outputs in the corresponding sidechain so to retrieve data all you'd need to do is hack up a little program in javascript that can collate all the data from the 1,114,112 sidechains

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
entries chiselled on a diamond tablet, stored in orbit and only accessible via spaceship

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

didn't ananapoplus say everyone was going to have their own side chains?

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Gum posted:

entries chiselled on a diamond tablet, stored in orbit and only accessible via spaceship

so we're back to the giant stone currency of yap, then

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Pocket posted:

didn't ananapoplus say everyone was going to have their own side chains?

buttcoiners of the world unite

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

a graph database where the nodes are pigeons and the edges are boats :sureboat: :sureboat:

https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt but with bitcoin

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug

maybe they know but they figure they're far enough along with the idea that they might as well get all the paperwork pushed through because then they'll have a template for running other digital goods exchanges

Magrov
Mar 27, 2010

I'm completely lost and have no idea what's going on. I'll be at my bunker.

If you need any diplomatic or mineral stuff just call me. If you plan to nuke India please give me a 5 minute warning to close the windows!


Also Iapetus sucks!

quote:

Stealing/unethical behavior vs service/disservice? (self.Bitcoin)
submitted an hour ago by 6b88c087247aa2

Let's say I create a wallet, then it happens to have bitcoins in it.

Consider that it may be a lost wallet, or a current wallet.

It would be a disservice to the community to let it be gone potentially forever again. So then how does one find the owner to confirm.

If then no one proves ownership and it was actually a lost wallet, would it be stealing, I hold the only existing private key in this situation?

If no one responds and I believe I'm the only holder of the keys, would it still be theft if someone else still held the keys?

What would you think is the right move?

It's like finding a quarter, or a large bag of money, on the ground, the previous owner lost it, and if given the chance to claim it they might, if they can prove it, otherwise...isn't it mine just as much as that penny you picked up was yours.

To argue the difference between a quarter, penny, or large bag of money is trivial. The way I see things is if you consider it theft to keep that large bag of money then under the same guides of why it is theft then it is theft to keep the penny. If you consider it reasonable to keep that penny then you must find it reasonable to keep that large amount of money.

The logic is, lost money by someone else, found by you, if kept, no matter the size is still lost money that you kept.

Forget the odds, it'll happen one day, in fact it has happened in the brain wallet atmosphere, some by accident some intentional.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

all forms of theft are equal says me, a big dum dum

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Magrov posted:

It would be a disservice to the community to let it be gone potentially forever again.

not stealing the money is the real immoral action :colbert:

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
i remember when i got a bank account but somehow it was already someone's and all their money became mine

Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
bitcoin: uneducated shut-ins stumble upon philosophical and economic arguments, independently arrive at the wrong conclusion

Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
Srsly though its pretty scary to see in action someone not understand that there are varying degrees of right and wrong. the same thought process that goes into believing that stealing $0.01 is just as bad as stealing $10,000.00 could be used to argue that flicking someone's ear is as bad as murdering them.

Jerry Bindle
May 16, 2003
"if he were still alive, his ear would still be smarting. now that he is dead, no pain is felt! i have reduced the net amount of pain felt in the universe. qed"

ComfyPants
Mar 20, 2002

finding money in someone's account that they're not currently spending is exactly like finding a quarter on the ground
if i shout into reddit for a minute and no one responds, that account is now mine, for the good of the community

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014


So pigeons going to the moon? I sure bet that'll never happen.

Magrov posted:

The logic is, lost money by someone else, found by you, if kept, no matter the size is still lost money that you kept.

The logic is, if you lose a penny you report it stolen to the police just like if you lost a huge bag of money, because that's definitely worth your time and theirs.

We all know bitcoiners obviously have nothing better to do with their lives than waste everyone else's time so this should be no surprise.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Also the odds of creating a bitcoin account and it already has coins in it are around 100% if your wallet app's random() function returns "403 Forbidden" every single time it is called.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Pocket posted:

how about under the table home improvements?

aka the buttcoin.org payout method

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

lol the free Ross page argues that he shouldn't get the kingpin charge because five people weren't specifically named as part of his criminal enterprise

SeductiveReasoning
Nov 2, 2005

382 BC - 301 BC

theflyingexecutive posted:

lol the free Ross page argues that he shouldn't get the kingpin charge because five people weren't specifically named as part of his criminal enterprise

One weird trick District Attorneys hate!

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

also that he wasn't "concretely" involved in narcotics distribution because I dunno beep boop computers or some poo poo

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Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

theflyingexecutive posted:

also that he wasn't "concretely" involved in narcotics distribution because I dunno beep boop computers or some poo poo

but he literally kept a spreadsheet of his expenses when he grew mushrooms to kickstart silkroad:psyduck:

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