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I really enjoyed Fourze, but Cliff Racer made a couple of good points, especially with the two episode format and the pacing problems. My biggest personal gripe with Fourze is that the middle section heavily focuses on the secondary Rider and I really hated his character. He got better but it took a long long time.
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Onmi posted:I thought the best part about it was securing what an insane goober he was. There's two W Returns movies. If she doesn't like W Forever, she probably won't like the Eternal movie, but the Accel movie is totally worth it. It's one of the better Rider films, and you get to spend watching Terui punch the hell out of everything that looks at him funny. It's pretty great. 
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Aug 16, 2015 17:02
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I found Fourze pretty terrible and Meteor was the only remotely interesting character (although that meant I got to enjoy the stretch of the story that focused on Meteor, which a lot of people that do like the show didn't like...)
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Aug 16, 2015 17:11
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I liked Fourze a lot, but the ending seemed kind of rushed. Kamen Rider has a tendency to drop the ball when it comes time to end the series. I think OOO is the only one I can recall off hand that ended in a graceful fashion. Gaim also ended in a graceful fashion, I guess, but it was a lovely ending. The last episode of OOO is really good, though, with a lot of heart to it. It's like identical to the last episode of Kill La Kill, which I find amusing in retrospect.
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Aug 16, 2015 17:18
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Kill La Kill's ending was based on OOO. The guy who made it was a pretty big fan of the show, and of Kamen Rider in general- it's why he made Fourze.
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Aug 16, 2015 17:20
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Burkion posted:Kill La Kill's ending was based on OOO. The guy who made it was a pretty big fan of the show, and of Kamen Rider in general- it's why he made Fourze. That makes sense. I didn't realize they were actually linked in that way.
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Aug 16, 2015 17:23
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deadly_pudding posted:That makes sense. I didn't realize they were actually linked in that way. Yeah you get some six degrees of Kevin Bacon poo poo if you try to compare Toku and Anime along the ways. They're not too terribly distant from one another and have some overlap.
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Aug 16, 2015 17:30
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Fourze is interesting to me because the ending is very much similar to the Lost Galaxy ending I was praising like half a page ago; the last 8 episodes or so are just Gentaro and Ryusei getting creamed repeatedly and barely scraping by at not dying or utterly losing until the Finale where they barely manage to triumph. I thought that was how Drive was going to go with Heart too just because of how strong he is but he's mostly been staying out of fights.
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Aug 16, 2015 18:45
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Onmi posted:I thought the best part about it was securing what an insane goober he was. The best part was seeing him claim that "Beam me up Scotty" was a famous catch phrase from Star Trek when it was never in the series. deadly_pudding posted:I liked Fourze a lot, but the ending seemed kind of rushed. Kamen Rider has a tendency to drop the ball when it comes time to end the series. The one thing I really enjoyed about Fourze's ending was the fact that the writers completely ignored all the people in Meteor's space station. "And eventually they were rescued by, oh, let's say...Moe."
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Aug 17, 2015 00:19
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Wizard has great costumes and good fights also he rider kicks a dude into the sun. Fourze had the same lovely pacing and characters and was ugly as gently caress yet people still like it.
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Aug 17, 2015 01:25
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After years of oppression, the Wizard fans have come alive
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Elfgames posted:Wizard has great costumes and good fights also he rider kicks a dude into the sun. Fourze had the same lovely pacing and characters and was ugly as gently caress yet people still like it. Actually Fourze was good
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Aug 17, 2015 01:33
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Elfgames posted:Wizard has great costumes and good fights also he rider kicks a dude into the sun. Fourze had the same lovely pacing and characters and was ugly as gently caress yet people still like it. Hi. You're completely wrong about the second sentence. Fourze was good and fun, and Wizard was bad and awful. He did have a nice base form, but that's all he has going for it. Again, the series was actually IMPROVED BY BRINGING IN DECADE. Hold on, I don't think I made that clear enough: IMPROVED BY BRINGING IN DECADE.
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Aug 17, 2015 01:37
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Decade was a bad series but be fair, Masahiro Inoue is so drat good, his presence would basically improve any modern toku series. Imagine how bad Decade would be if he didn't play Tsukasa
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Aug 17, 2015 01:43
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:Decade was a bad series but be fair, Masahiro Inoue is so drat good, his presence would basically improve any modern toku series. Imagine how bad Decade would be if he didn't play Tsukasa I think they should bring him in anytime a series is floundering. He'd be amazing in Nininger.
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Aug 17, 2015 01:45
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Decade has the best transformation and music in the last 5 years of Kamen Rider
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Aug 17, 2015 01:49
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To be fair, Fourze did have lovely pacing and really goofy suits for the heroes (and the final villain). On the other hand, I am permanently convinced that anyone who doesn't like the Kamen Rider Club missed the joke. They're supposed to be high school clique stereotypes until Gen gets them to open up about who they really are. Have you ever met a high schooler who didn't hide behind a clique-identity of some kind?
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Aug 17, 2015 01:50
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Tae posted:Decade has the best transformation and music in the last 5 years of Kamen Rider Yeah...next to Gaim, Decade has the best henshin sounds and music recently.
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Aug 17, 2015 01:55
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Poison Mushroom posted:On the other hand, I am permanently convinced that anyone who doesn't like the Kamen Rider Club missed the joke. They're supposed to be high school clique stereotypes until Gen gets them to open up about who they really are. Have you ever met a high schooler who didn't hide behind a clique-identity of some kind? Wasn't there an episode where the only lines Miu had consisted of her "OOPS" catchphrase?
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Aug 17, 2015 02:13
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I'm still waiting for a moment some apathetic villain doesn't care enough to ask Decade who he is just for Tsukasa to tap his foot waiting to deliver his "passing through Kamen Rider" line.
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Aug 17, 2015 02:36
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I'm half-convinced Masahiro Inoue acts in toku series he knows will be bad, entirely to add at least something good to them. I mean, the only two series with him I can think about are Kamen Rider Decade and Garo: Gold Storm, and both are bad series in overall good franchises. And his reappearance was in Wizard of all things, as if to prove the point.
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Aug 17, 2015 02:55
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At this point is it even fair to say that Garo is a mostly good franchise? Sure its a started good franchise, but all this recent stuff...
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Aug 17, 2015 03:00
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Cliff Racer posted:At this point is it even fair to say that Garo is a mostly good franchise? Sure its a started good franchise, but all this recent stuff... Sounds like toku Highlander.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:23
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WickedHate posted:Sounds like toku Highlander. Garo season 1 and 2 were great. Haven't seen 4 yet though. 5 is...a sequel to 3. So. You know.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:25
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Burkion posted:5 is...a sequel to 3. So. You know. Awesome and fun?
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Aug 17, 2015 03:29
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I heard the anime was good.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:31
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Waffleman_ posted:I heard the anime was good.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:37
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The first half of Yami wo Terasu Mono was pretty bad but I don't really get the huge amount of hate people have for it and Gold Storm Like, I wouldn't begrudge someone for choosing not to stick through the bad episodes to get to the good ones but I can't really pin down why people hate it with such a fierce passion.
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Aug 17, 2015 03:41
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Poison Mushroom posted:No, he said the anime is blood! Have a chicken nugget on me, friend
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:Decade was a bad series but be fair, Masahiro Inoue is so drat good, his presence would basically improve any modern toku series. Imagine how bad Decade would be if he didn't play Tsukasa Cliff Racer posted:At this point is it even fair to say that Garo is a mostly good franchise? Sure its a started good franchise, but all this recent stuff... Waffleman_ posted:I heard the anime was good.
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Aug 17, 2015 05:59
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Wizard kicked a villain into the drat sun and he and his show still ultimately went down as one of the most dull Riders ever. That's a feat and a half.
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Aug 17, 2015 07:14
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AzraelNewtype posted:The second anime is going to be helmed by Sho Aikawa with some Toshiki Inoue sprinkled in for good measure oh.
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Aug 17, 2015 07:24
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jivjov posted:Awesome and fun? Jivjov continues to have the worst opinions humanly possible, surprising no one
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Justin_Brett posted:Wizard kicked a villain into the drat sun and he and his show still ultimately went down as one of the most dull Riders ever. That's a feat and a half. Yeah but fourze didn't do poo poo and people love his show Honestly i think they're about the same quality wise, fourze is just ugly as hell and almost every character makes me want to punch them at least half the time (yeah, i know they're highchool kids and this is normal) But wizard Looks cool has cooler fights and powers and has the best belt ever.
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Aug 17, 2015 08:44
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Cricken_Nigfops posted:Hi. Every post Decade show would've been improved by bringing in Decade. 
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DICKS FOR DINNER posted:Decade was a bad series but be fair, Masahiro Inoue is so drat good, his presence would basically improve any modern toku series.  This is all you need to know about Goldstorm, really.
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Aug 17, 2015 11:00
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Elfgames posted:Yeah but fourze didn't do poo poo and people love his show Honestly i think they're about the same quality wise, fourze is just ugly as hell and almost every character makes me want to punch them at least half the time (yeah, i know they're highchool kids and this is normal) But wizard Looks cool has cooler fights and powers and has the best belt ever.
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Aug 17, 2015 14:38
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Wizard's fight choreography actually got super-boring. He has a cool suit but the fights were incredibly dull for the most part. Fourze didn't always have good fight choreography but at least it tried.
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Aug 17, 2015 15:50
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Ignis posted:
Well that's an apt visual metaphor
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I like Fourze the character. I like his suit design, I like his personality. I like the tone of fun/silliness in equal measure. The whacky gadgets and the space theme just tickle that part of me that loved learning about space as a kid. Fourze rules. .... that being said, I actually dont like the SHOW. I thought a lot of the stories were kind of boring, the villians were stupid, its takes too drat long to get going... I quit out 1/3rd into the series. I like Fourze's group of friends overall, and I think they did a good job casting it, but the stories failed to really keep my attention. Kamen Rider Beyblade didnt really click with me. I like that Fourze is popular enough to make cameos in movies/video games or whatever, and I think that's where he shines.
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