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EmmyOk posted:Someone recently made a Power Rangers one where it's all dark and evil which was pretty dumb imho. 
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I didn't like Man of Steel very much, but it's pretty dumb to blame Superman for the destruction. The World Engine did like 99% of it, and Zod's his equal, it's not like he can take the fight somewhere else. IIRC, Supes actually does try to knock Zod out of the city, and Zod just punches him back.
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Sep 7, 2015 03:47
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On The Strain it's kind of annoying how the main characters are vampire headshot machines, except when dealing with Eichorst or Eph's ex-wife Kelly. At least with Eichorst they show him dodging out of the way at super speed, with Kelly everyone just becomes a terrible shot, even those who have no emotional attachment to her at all.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:10
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Byzantine posted:I didn't like Man of Steel very much, but it's pretty dumb to blame Superman for the destruction. The World Engine did like 99% of it, and Zod's his equal, it's not like he can take the fight somewhere else. Yup. He tries to take the fight up to space and Zod basically says "gently caress you and this satellite" and goes back to smash up the city. An irritating moment (irrationally too, so it fits!) is in Superman : Doomsday. It's an animated movie where Superman fights, surprise, Doomsday. In the middle of the big fight, he grabs him in a full nelson and hauls him into space and instead of lobbing him into the sun or throwing him into the moon or something, he SUPLEXES HIM BACK INTO THE CITY. Dude loving craters the city he's trying to save for... gently caress I dunno what kinda reason he would have. It's really a weird thing.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:18
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Byzantine posted:I didn't like Man of Steel very much, but it's pretty dumb to blame Superman for the destruction. The World Engine did like 99% of it, and Zod's his equal, it's not like he can take the fight somewhere else. It's not real life, people wrote the movie, every single second was dictated by people outside the film's universe. They made a conscious choice to include the death and destruction and bleakness. It's like saying about an anime "she has to dress like that, it's the source of her powers!". Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:An irritating moment (irrationally too, so it fits!) is in Superman : Doomsday. It's an animated movie where Superman fights, surprise, Doomsday. In the middle of the big fight, he grabs him in a full nelson and hauls him into space and instead of lobbing him into the sun or throwing him into the moon or something, he SUPLEXES HIM BACK INTO THE CITY. Dude loving craters the city he's trying to save for... gently caress I dunno what kinda reason he would have. The Superman Returns video game had the right idea making the health bar the city's rather than Superman's.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:25
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*emphatic spit take*
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Sep 7, 2015 04:29
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WickedHate posted:It's not real life, people wrote the movie, every single second was dictated by people outside the film's universe. They made a conscious choice to include the death and destruction and bleakness. It's like saying about an anime "she has to dress like that, it's the source of her powers!". Well then it's still dumb to blame Superman because he's only doing what he's scripted to do. And he still didn't do any of the destruction himself. quote:The Superman Returns video game had the right idea making the health bar the city's rather than Superman's. That was a really cool idea, yeah.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:39
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Byzantine posted:Well then it's still dumb to blame Superman because he's only doing what he's scripted to do. And he still didn't do any of the destruction himself. I... I don't think anyone here is actually blaming superman the fictional character for the tone of the movie he was in.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:44
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I am. It's me.
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Byzantine posted:Well then it's still dumb to blame Superman because he's only doing what he's scripted to do. And he still didn't do any of the destruction himself. Right, but it's a valid criticism of the movie.
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Sep 7, 2015 04:44
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Ignite Memories posted:I... I don't think anyone here is actually blaming superman the fictional character for the tone of the movie he was in. Nobody here is, yeah, but it's criticism I've seen a lot. WickedHate posted:Right, but it's a valid criticism of the movie. Absolutely.
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Sep 7, 2015 05:08
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I always think it's dumb when superman is fighting someone equally strong as himself and he does stuff like throw a car at them or hit him with a metal beam. It doesn't hurt them at all. It's like going into a life or death fight and then throwing balloons and swinging a pool noodle.
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Sep 7, 2015 05:53
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I thought it was funny how much less of a superhero superman became as he went through life and how much more alien he seemed by almost never emoting. Also how he latched onto Kryptonian culture like a born again christian with Christianity.
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Sep 7, 2015 06:01
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Gaunab posted:I thought it was funny how much less of a superhero superman became as he went through life and how much more alien he seemed by almost never emoting. Also how he latched onto Kryptonian culture like a born again christian with Christianity. That part made sense to me. He had spent his entire life trying to figure out who he was and the movie made it pretty clear that the mystery of his origins was a source of distress for him emotionally. So of course once he figured it out he dived into that poo poo whole-hog. And it's not even without precedent. Comics Superman has spent the past 80-ish years trying and failing to juggle his human and kryptonian halves and frequently dedicating himself to one or another until changing his mind and switching sides, only to rinse and repeat fifty issues later.
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Sep 7, 2015 06:54
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Who's noticed the trend where in a reboot of some property they drag out the origin story out so far, that by the time we've gotten the to the premise of the story, the movie's over? They did it on Ridley Scott's lovely Robin Hood and this year's lovely Fantastic Four.
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Sep 7, 2015 07:24
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Who's noticed the trend where in a reboot of some property they drag out the origin story out so far, that by the time we've gotten the to the premise of the story, the movie's over? They did it on Ridley Scott's lovely Robin Hood and this year's lovely Fantastic Four. Because movies are still mostly developed at the whims of executives who are too old to realize that 80% of the people watching them already know the story and that the other 20% have internet access if they're curious. So these executives are convinced that if they don't redo the origin story and beat that poo poo into your head everyone will be confused and not like their movie.
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Sep 7, 2015 07:38
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Esroc posted:Because movies are still mostly developed at the whims of executives who are too old to realize that 80% of the people watching them already know the story and that the other 20% have internet access if they're curious. So these executives are convinced that if they don't redo the origin story and beat that poo poo into your head everyone will be confused and not like their movie. I think it's more to do with writers willing to work on a reboot have already given up on originality and its easier to plagarise an existing story with a ton of background and references in place than it is to come up with a new and potentially exciting plot. Hollywood writers have loving sucked over the past decade or so.
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Sep 7, 2015 07:44
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Plus, in the FF's case, I think the script was a rewrite of the sequel to Chronicle. That's kinda why it was all over the place pacing wise. Well, that, and the whole "Let's reshoot a fuckton of this movie cause we don't like the director".
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Sep 7, 2015 07:51
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dpack_1 posted:I think it's more to do with writers willing to work on a reboot have already given up on originality and its easier to plagarise an existing story with a ton of background and references in place than it is to come up with a new and potentially exciting plot. Why not both? However, it's not the writers that are being unoriginal. It's the producers who won't buy scripts that haven't already been proven to make money. Max Landis has a good youtube interview where he goes in depth about the state of Hollywood script writing and how nobody is buying scripts that aren't reboots, ripoffs, oscar-bait, or romcoms,
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Sep 7, 2015 07:54
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Esroc posted:Because movies are still mostly developed at the whims of executives who are too old to realize that 80% of the people watching them already know the story and that the other 20% have internet access if they're curious. So these executives are convinced that if they don't redo the origin story and beat that poo poo into your head everyone will be confused and not like their movie. All-Star Superman did a known origin story the right way. 
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Sep 7, 2015 08:12
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WickedHate posted:It's like saying about an anime "she has to dress like that, it's the source of her powers!". This is a very weird argument to hear from someone who defended animated child porn.
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Sep 7, 2015 09:37
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The really depressing part of Man of Steel was that Superman was a racist genocidal meglomaniac tyrant.
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Sep 7, 2015 15:02
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EmmyOk posted:I liked the dark reimaginings of stuff before they became the only type of film. Someone recently made a Power Rangers one where it's all dark and evil which was pretty dumb imho. I liked Man of Steel in a lot of ways but it was hard to buy their "he gives us hope and light" message when he bashed up all those buildings. The Power Rangers one was satire of dark and edgy reboots.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:25
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I googled this thinking fans are the worst but holy poo poo it's made by the actual company. From the youtube video description "Watch as the Power Rangers Swag Force takes full effect in this rap video! ". Which was either written by someone who claims to be a 'social media expert' or a person who refers to kids as youths. On a side-note my 4th class teacher did the voice for the baddies on the Power Rangers Irish language dub, eat it thread.
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Esroc posted:That part made sense to me. He had spent his entire life trying to figure out who he was and the movie made it pretty clear that the mystery of his origins was a source of distress for him emotionally. So of course once he figured it out he dived into that poo poo whole-hog. And it's not even without precedent. Comics Superman has spent the past 80-ish years trying and failing to juggle his human and kryptonian halves and frequently dedicating himself to one or another until changing his mind and switching sides, only to rinse and repeat fifty issues later. Superman grew up in Kansas. He is going to immediately latch onto anything that makes him not from Kansas.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:58
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Aphrodite posted:Superman grew up in Kansas. I have a mental image of Clark trying to be a thug and blasting Dre and Eminem while his Earth parents wonder where they went wrong. You know, for all the hate it got, Strange Magic wasn't so bad. I think it failed overall with people because post-Frozen and Shrek the handsome prince being a douchebag and the monster being a nice guy is almost overdone. It wasn't a cinema masterpiece, but then again, not everyone can make a Pixar movie. gently caress, even Pixar's Brave wasn't Pixar quality. Watched Paranorman with the kids recently. Again, good movie, but Jesus Christ some of the character designs were loving hideous. It's the same as the lovely Madagascar; it's hard to root for someone when they look so Uncanny Valley they are hard to watch. Looking at you, Norman's mom and that loving giraffe. Hard to see that the same guys who did Coraline did Paranorman, and the art design just looks so loving BAD.
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Sep 8, 2015 00:06
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Ridley Scott's lovely Robin Hood Ugh, I'd forgotten about this. Why would you make a Robin Hood film with LITTLE TO NO ARCHERY. THAT IS HIS THING.
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Sep 8, 2015 01:30
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Also apparently the origin of Robin Hood starts in his late 40s. Anyway, I know it's a kids movie but the message of the first Hotel Transylvania is kind of crappy. There's a whole thing about how your "true" love has to be love at first sight.
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Sep 8, 2015 01:40
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muscles like this? posted:Also apparently the origin of Robin Hood starts in his late 40s. Also you should marry them. Like, right away. What a wonderful thing to be teaching kids.
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Lady Naga posted:Also you should marry them. Like, right away. What a wonderful thing to be teaching kids. I thought it was more creepy that you only get One True Love. If that person dies, you're hosed and have to be alone forever.
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Cowslips Warren posted:I thought it was more creepy that you only get One True Love. If that person dies, you're hosed and have to be alone forever. This is how real life works too but no one likes to admit it because someone's feelings will get hurt.
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Sep 8, 2015 02:47
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I also thought it was kind of weird how Dracula acts like humans attack monsters through no fault of the monsters.
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Elissimpark posted:Ugh, I'd forgotten about this. Why would you make a Robin Hood film with LITTLE TO NO ARCHERY. THAT IS HIS THING. Isn't the Ridley Scott Robin Hood the one that was going to have the new and unique twist on the story by having it be about the Sheriff, who tries to solve all of the robbery crimes that Robin Hood is committing? Because them trying to film something original and then having Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe poo poo all over it is the infuriating part for me.
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The original script that got turned into Robin Hood was called "Nottingham" and was set to star Crowe as both the Sheriff and Robin Hood. The goofy part is that in the finished movie the Sheriff is barely in the film. Apparently the changes weren't Crowe's fault but were all on Ridley Scott.
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Sep 8, 2015 03:29
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So monica dates Richard who smokes cigars and she has no problem with it. She even smokes them cuz it reminds her of him. But when she's with Chandler he smokes one and she becomes a shrill harpy and attacks him on how terrible they are. What a loving bitch
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Sep 8, 2015 04:26
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I liked when they did an episode about smoking on How I Met Your Mother and slowly revealed that every person in the group smoked like a chimney.
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oldpainless posted:So monica dates Richard who smokes cigars and she has no problem with it. She even smokes them cuz it reminds her of him. But when she's with Chandler he smokes one and she becomes a shrill harpy and attacks him on how terrible they are. What a loving bitch Richard, huge perfect Richard, smoked manly stoagies. Ms. Chanandler Bong smoke little Virginia Slims. Something something cuck.
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Sep 8, 2015 05:07
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muscles like this? posted:The goofy part is that in the finished movie the Sheriff is barely in the film. This. I remember the sheriff being introduced and thinking he seemed an interesting character - like he wasn't EVIL evil, just a bureaucrat in a poo poo situation, from memory. Then nothing. Boo.
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muscles like this? posted:Anyway, I know it's a kids movie but the message of the first Hotel Transylvania is kind of crappy. I feel the same about The Incredibles. It's a fantastic movie, but the constant harping on about how some people are just naturally better/more important/special than other people was a trifle unnerving. I know the intention was really about not holding others back to avoid everybody else feeling inadequate, but it had a rather creepy Ubermensch quality to it. The villain literally being one of the greatest geniuses of all time but constantly belittled because he didn't have real superpowers didn't exactly endear me to the superheroes.
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Lady Naga posted:Also you should marry them. Like, right away. What a wonderful thing to be teaching kids. That's about the only thing I liked in Frozen. The "true love at first sight" turned out to be exactly the dickhole you'd expect him to be in the real world.
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