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Dirty Beluga
Apr 17, 2007

Buy the ticket, take the ride
Fun Shoe

Mr. Mambold posted:

You should rent a floor sander for sanding floors, doing it with a R/O is kinda insane. (I've done that too, though) I've had a Porter-Cable 5" with velcro pad forever, replaced the disc twice now. Need to replace the cord. Sander keeps on trucking.
Got a half-sheet makita that used to be my go-to, never used since I bought the Porter-Cable a good 25 years ago.

I'm not sanding whole rooms with the thing. I use it for edges / under radiators etc... Doing a whole room with a 5" sander sounds like some weird form of torture.

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Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

My Makita 5" random orbit has been great and I'd definitely recommend it. My monster Bosch 1250DEVS 6" has been even better, but it's expensive and absolutely ridiculous. Owns like hell, though.

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Inexperienced,
heartless,
but even so
Recommendations for locking pliers? I've heard Irwin Vice Grips went to poo poo, but Snap On or Grip On are good quality. I'm generally just using them to assemble furniture or work on bicycles.

Also, I've heard mixed opinions, but are there specific lines I should be gravitating toward for minor hand tools (pliers, hammers, ratchets, etc)? The people I work with (mechanical engineers) have hardons for Snap On, but I'm wondering if that's just because it's a popular name with them or if there's something they do that outshines everyone else. I'm in Electrical so I have little experience with things that aren't voltmeters, soldering irons, and oscilloscopes.

I live in an apartment so I just have a small bag with a handful of tools that I use for mounting / assembling things or fixing bicycles (no power tools), but I like to maintain some ideas of what brands I should look out for if I find myself needing something.

PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Oct 1, 2015

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Wera and wiha for screwdriver type stuff, knipex for pliers type things are my small hand tool hard on brands. I feel like snap on is only worth it if you're an actual mechanic.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
I've been upgrading my pliers to Channellock when they have what I want, for the price I don't know there is anything better. Klein is supposed to be good too although I don't own any. From what I understand the government buys a lot of Klein tools. Crescent used to make good wrenches but they moved to China and I'm skeptical of the quality. I own a lot of Craftsman stuff. I think the big deal with Snap-On and Mac is that the trucks come around and it becomes this thing everyone 'must' have plus they can swap broken tools right off the truck. As the saying goes, you covet what you see and if all your buddies are buying Mac or Snap-On, that's what you'll want. And they are good quality tools too. I'm just a home gamer so none of that fancy stuff for me.

edit; typo

wormil fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Oct 1, 2015

Sointenly
Sep 7, 2008

wormil posted:

I've been upgrading my pliers to Channellock when they have what I want,

This

Ace / True Value will occasionally send out a 50% off one item (under $30) coupon. Every time i get one I use in on a pair of Channellocks. I think last time i picked up a set of 16" tongue and grove pliers... so sweet.

lwoodio
Apr 4, 2008

I bought the harbor freight 3/8" impacting earthquake ratchet. Do I need to use impact sockets with it since it only does 70 ft lbs?

Laminator
Jan 18, 2004

You up for some serious plastic surgery?
Yes, normal sockets like to explode with impact wrenches. They're cheap, but getting metal removed from your eyeball isn't

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

It's not just the metal, it's the chrome coating that fragments under repeated impacts. Take a regular chrome socket you have a duplicate of and beat it with a hammer for a while. The chrome wil flake off, sometimes in a good imitation of shrapnel.

The idea behind impact sockets is to avoid the FOD and injury risk associated with the more brittle materials used in chromed sockets, they will go plastic and deform instead of shatter.


But given this is an impact ratchet, you can probably get away with it. Maybe.

Dirty Beluga
Apr 17, 2007

Buy the ticket, take the ride
Fun Shoe

lwoodio posted:

I bought the harbor freight 3/8" impacting earthquake ratchet. Do I need to use impact sockets with it since it only does 70 ft lbs?

if you are just using an impact tool with them every once and a while, not really as long as you wear adequate protection and are OK with the chance of messing up a socket. If you make a habit of it, the HF impact sockets are not expensive.

PRADA SLUT posted:

Recommendations for locking pliers?
Channel-Lok makes some good stuff. The last pair of Vice-Grip brand pliers i bought were on par with what is at HF right now. :(

Dirty Beluga
Apr 17, 2007

Buy the ticket, take the ride
Fun Shoe

Hypnolobster posted:

My Makita 5" random orbit has been great and I'd definitely recommend it. My monster Bosch 1250DEVS 6" has been even better, but it's expensive and absolutely ridiculous. Owns like hell, though.

I looked around a bunch and settled on a Bosch. about 30 minutes into sanding the stupid clutch thing jammed up and turned the RO into a disc sander. I returned that and bought the Makita. SUCH a difference! It's much more powerful than the Bosch, or even my old Craftsman and the dust collection is top notch. Thanks :D

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Dirty Beluga posted:

I looked around a bunch and settled on a Bosch. about 30 minutes into sanding the stupid clutch thing jammed up and turned the RO into a disc sander. I returned that and bought the Makita. SUCH a difference! It's much more powerful than the Bosch, or even my old Craftsman and the dust collection is top notch. Thanks :D

Late to the party, but I have the Makita Variable Speed 5" RO, and I love it. The variable speed is great because it makes it way more flexible as a tool and lets me use it between finish coats without worrying too much about loving something up.

King of Gulps
Sep 4, 2003

Dirty Beluga posted:

The last pair of Vice-Grip brand pliers i bought were on par with what is at HF right now. :(

I stick up for HF in a lot of cases but nothing makes me more angry than their lovely vise grips.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Dirty Beluga posted:

I looked around a bunch and settled on a Bosch. about 30 minutes into sanding the stupid clutch thing jammed up and turned the RO into a disc sander. I returned that and bought the Makita. SUCH a difference! It's much more powerful than the Bosch, or even my old Craftsman and the dust collection is top notch. Thanks :D

I'll probably get one if my Porter Cable ever dies. They didn't have dust collection vents or bags on them back when I got it :yikes:

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
A China Fright flyer came in the mail and I've got the itch. . .

The $22 7 piece ratcheting wrench set looks very tempting, however I'm guessing the quality suck.

I could get $22 Crescent X6 ratcheting wrenches, but I just don't think their whole X6 feature looks like a good idea. It's just a bunch of small splines that grab the fastener, allowing it to grab "6 different bolt heads", and I'm not sure I want a ratcheting bit on the open end section, I thought those kinds of designs were typically weak or hard to work with?

I think I know the correct answer is a 20pc set of Gearwrench ratcheting wrenches for $50 is the right answer, but I don't want to spend that much right now and I don't think I really need ratcheting metric wrenches. I'm also not sure if the additional 3 wrenches - 1/4", 11/32", and 11/116" would be sizes that I would really use that often.

I'm also interested in the $25 infrared thermometer gun primarily for my own entertainment, or is it a piece of crap? Who am I kidding, the HF flyer made me think the temp gun was a good deal since it required a coupon to get it for $25, but I can get one for $13 from Amazon, at that price I don't care if it is a piece of crap or not.

Not Wolverine fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Oct 11, 2015

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

Crotch Fruit posted:

I'm also interested in the $25 infrared thermometer gun primarily for my own entertainment, or is it a piece of crap? Who am I kidding, the HF flyer made me think the temp gun was a good deal since it required a coupon to get it for $25, but I can get one for $13 from Amazon, at that price I don't care if it is a piece of crap or not.

I've had one of the $13 thermometer guns for a while now, and it works. Not sure if it's 100% accurate, but it's close enough. Boiling water shows 212F/100C, so there's that. I'm not exactly using it for anything that requires super accurate readings anyhow.

metallicaeg
Nov 28, 2005

Evil Red Wings Owner Wario Lemieux Steals Stanley Cup

Crotch Fruit posted:

A China Fright flyer came in the mail and I've got the itch. . .

The $22 7 piece ratcheting wrench set looks very tempting, however I'm guessing the quality suck.
They're not bad. The only HF wrenches that are guaranteed garbage are the flare nut and the cheapo adjustable ones.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
I haven't found any flare wrenches that were any good, all the way up to and including Snap-On. I just always use the Stanley vice-wrench for that poo poo now.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

Splizwarf posted:

I haven't found any flare wrenches that were any good, all the way up to and including Snap-On. I just always use the Stanley vice-wrench for that poo poo now.

I've gotten to the point that I break flare nuts free with a vise-grip and then use a standard wrench to finish them off. Even my Snap-On rounds the darn things if they are slightly rusty/old/ect.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKv2CNCgcAs

Here's a reminder from This Old House on why you should wear all the safety gear when using a chainsaw. Real neat demonstration on how the chainsaw chaps work.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007

canyoneer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKv2CNCgcAs

Here's a reminder from This Old House on why you should wear all the safety gear when using a chainsaw. Real neat demonstration on how the chainsaw chaps work.

You have to buy a new pair of chaps and a new pair of underwear afterwards. :colbert:

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Crotch Fruit posted:

You have to buy a new pair of chaps and a new pair of underwear afterwards. :colbert:

Whereas with out them, you can just buy a new leg! And if you get one that's adamantium or some poo poo you'll never need the chaps again! It's a pretty obvious upgrade, really.

MickRaider
Aug 27, 2004

Now I smell like lemonade!
don't worry, legs grow back

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius
The limiting factor in how close up against the wall I can place my miter saw is the dust collection port. I'd like a right angle connector so I don't need a bunch of space for the hose to turn. Does anyone know of one for a 35mm dust port? The closest I've found is this, but still not ideal.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Zhentar posted:

The limiting factor in how close up against the wall I can place my miter saw is the dust collection port. I'd like a right angle connector so I don't need a bunch of space for the hose to turn. Does anyone know of one for a 35mm dust port? The closest I've found is this, but still not ideal.

If I may suggest, consider something like this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Fernco-PQL-15...+Pipe+connector

I had much better luck getting it to fit with my various assortment of hoses because the rubber stretches a little, and the hose clamps let you get it nice and secure.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Hubis posted:

If I may suggest, consider something like this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Fernco-PQL-15...+Pipe+connector

I had much better luck getting it to fit with my various assortment of hoses because the rubber stretches a little, and the hose clamps let you get it nice and secure.

I used the exact same thing on mine. Plumbing fititngs usually work well for dust collection.

Deedle
Oct 17, 2011
before you ask, yes I did inform the DMV of my condition and medication, and I passed the medical and psychological evaluation when I got my license. I've passed them every time I have gone to renew my license.

Zhentar posted:

The limiting factor in how close up against the wall I can place my miter saw is the dust collection port. I'd like a right angle connector so I don't need a bunch of space for the hose to turn. Does anyone know of one for a 35mm dust port? The closest I've found is this, but still not ideal.
If you have the option, I'd build a hood that sits over the back of the mitre saw. That way you can just let the saw blow the dust out and into the hood which has a shopvac port on the bottom in which ever corner is convenient for you.
A well designed hood also carries away a lot of the dust that would normally remain underneath the saw. Generally speaking the dust collection on mitre saws sucks, except not in the way you want it to.

Zhentar
Sep 28, 2003

Brilliant Master Genius

Hubis posted:

If I may suggest, consider something like this instead: http://www.amazon.com/Fernco-PQL-15...+Pipe+connector

I had much better luck getting it to fit with my various assortment of hoses because the rubber stretches a little, and the hose clamps let you get it nice and secure.

Thanks, it worked well enough. Would've fit much better if they made them 1/4" smaller, but oh well.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
I have this compressor and brad nailer kit. I mainly got it for the compressor, but turns out the lil' nailgun's pretty handy, except it came with ridiculously long (presumably 2", though I haven't measured them myself) nails. This is a minor problem, given that most of the things I'm inclined to use it instead of a screw for are nailing together things between half-inch and 1" nominal thickness, so at best the nails stick out the back and have to be clipped off/bent over flat, at worst I nail the work to the workbench.

Will it work with shorter ones? If so, how do I identify which ones I need?

Also, how strong are those "nails"/bits of wire? Could I zap, like, five of the long ones through a 1x into a 2x4 and expect it to hold as much weight as a framing nail or two?

In other news, now I want a proper air nailer, the lil' guy is so fun to use.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Looks like it should take anything up to 2" in length. I'm pretty sure brads are mostly meant to hold light things on - only place I've used my nailer so far is replacing some floor molding.

It is quite satisfying shooting a nail home with just a pull off the trigger and a quick pop of compressed air, though.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



IOwnCalculus posted:

Looks like it should take anything up to 2" in length. I'm pretty sure brads are mostly meant to hold light things on - only place I've used my nailer so far is replacing some floor molding.

It is quite satisfying shooting a nail home with just a pull off the trigger and a quick pop of compressed air, though.

You'd be surprised how much grabbage those 18g. brads will provide. Most fasteners are epoxy coated and the friction of the brad going in melts that stuff, then it instantly cools. Assuming the guy has an 18 gauge brad nailer, they'll take just about any brand of pin down to something like 5/8 or 1/2". They are exceedingly handy in uses where a fatter gauge nail will split the wood.

Captain Organ
Sep 9, 2004
cooter. snooper.
Just a heads up, my local costco had the dewalt tough system cart and 3 toolbox combo down to 199 today, which is about 20 dollars more than just the cart by itself most places, and 100 less than they were selling the combo for earlier this summer. No comment as of yet on the drawer unit or the cart, but I already use and really like the extra large and small boxes that it also comes with. Might be worth looking into if you need some organization.

Sointenly
Sep 7, 2008
Came across one of Ryobi's hidden gems for $40 on Craigslist yesterday, couldn't pass it up. A couple handles are missing and it has some surface rust on the table but a killer deal none the less. Variable speed with digital tach, laser cross-hair, ummmhmmm. Can finally justify getting rid of the Delta DP250.

Ryobi DP121L

bobua
Mar 23, 2003
I'd trade it all for just a little more.

Sointenly posted:

Came across one of Ryobi's hidden gems for $40 on Craigslist yesterday, couldn't pass it up. A couple handles are missing and it has some surface rust on the table but a killer deal none the less. Variable speed with digital tach, laser cross-hair, ummmhmmm. Can finally justify getting rid of the Delta DP250.

Ryobi DP121L


This is my first drill press and it binded up and generally worked like poo poo and I was angry for not buying a higher end one just 2 days ago.


Then realized you have to tighten the belt gear things for them to grip properly and it works just fine.

Sointenly
Sep 7, 2008

bobua posted:

This is my first drill press and it binded up and generally worked like poo poo and I was angry for not buying a higher end one just 2 days ago.


Then realized you have to tighten the belt gear things for them to grip properly and it works just fine.

Good to know, i've had other variable speed small drill presses and have not been overly impressed with any of them. But, the Ryobi had really good reviews so I thought i'd give er a go.

Tim Thomas
Feb 12, 2008
breakdancin the night away
At risk of channeling AvE :canada:, I think it's always a good idea to do at least a partial breakdown on new equipment and tools to be able to define what things operate which functions so that down the line when things go pear shaped, you already know what to look for rather than figuring it out while frustrated.

Sointenly
Sep 7, 2008
Recommendations for a benchtop jointer? Will definitely be buying used, and god willing inexpensively.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Sointenly posted:

Recommendations for a benchtop jointer? Will definitely be buying used, and god willing inexpensively.

I turned my router table into an ad-hoc jointer by shimming part of the split fence. It works okay; worth considering as an option.

Sointenly
Sep 7, 2008

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I turned my router table into an ad-hoc jointer by shimming part of the split fence. It works okay; worth considering as an option.

Interesting idea, why just "okay" on the results?

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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Sointenly posted:

Interesting idea, why just "okay" on the results?

Well, it's not a full-fledged jointer, and I can only joint boards that are at most as tall as my tallest straight bit, which isn't very tall (pretty much just limited to 3/4"-thick boards). And the fences aren't as long as what you'd find on a real jointer, so it's easy to accidentally wobble a bit and ruin your edge. But a jigged router table, plus a thickness planer, can definitely turn rough 4/4 boards into S2S1E boards, and the tools take up a lot less space (and probably cost less) than a jointer would.

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