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i just read all of hamsun's novels and now i'm a nazi help
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Oct 14, 2015 13:20
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V. Illych L. posted:i just read all of hamsun's novels and now i'm a nazi help guess the logical progression is to read mein kampf, speer's memoirs, handke(?) and houellebecq edit: (?)unless I'm misremembering and there's some other controversial bloke who denied that the holocaust ever happened ulvir fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 13:29
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yeah, confused handke with david irving, sorry. handke is merely a milosevic apologist
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Oct 14, 2015 13:38
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And work your way through this list of lovely people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottbegnadeten_list#Authors
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Oct 14, 2015 13:45
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V. Illych L. posted:i just read all of hamsun's novels and now i'm a nazi help quote:Hitler had high expectations of the Nobel Prize–winning author’s visit to the Berghof residence in the Bavarian Alps, and expected to find in Hamsun a kind of artistic equal. “I feel, if not completely, then very deeply connected to you,” the führer told his guest, “since my life resembles yours in certain ways.” Alas, eager as he was to discuss literature and art, Hitler was gradually enraged by Hamsun’s stubborn insistence on discussing politics instead, particularly certain details concerning the German occupation of Norway, about which Hamsun showed no fear in confronting Hitler. The meeting was a total disaster. When the Norwegian novelist left, Hitler exclaimed that he never wanted anyone like that to set foot in Berghof ever again. Little did he know that Hamsun had in fact spared him the final insult: as he drove away from the meeting, he complained to his German interpreter that “the man doesn’t suit our country. He is … uncultured.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:48
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hamsun really is an incredibly fascinating man.
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Oct 15, 2015 09:29
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ulvir posted:hamsun really is an incredibly fascinating man. He really was a tough knut to crack
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Oct 15, 2015 12:15
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Robotnik Nudes posted:I can appreciate that it is and sometimes my dumb brian sees the connections, there's just so many and trying to understand them all is, to a degree, like trying to get through a single wiki page while also clicking and reading every single linked article. There's no wrong way to read it but I'm glad I read Gravity's Rainbow first with the companion. It lets me know how incredibly detailed his mind/writing is and helped me pick more out of subsequent books once I knew that these seemingly little things often have a lot of interesting meanings.
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Oct 15, 2015 17:07
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Where's a good place to start with Umberto Eco? Also, recommended titles by him?
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Oct 15, 2015 21:36
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I like Baudolino a lot. Don't be put off by the annoying letter in the very first pages of the novel, it gets very good quickly after that.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:57
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Seconding Baudolino. It's great, especially if you want something more out of the Middle Ages than just GOT. The Name of the Rose is the more obvious recommendation, but it's a much headier work about the intellectual culture of the Middle Ages.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:10
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Name of the Rose is a fine start. My first Eco book was Foucault's Pendulum when I was fifteen. Don't do that.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:23
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Mel Mudkiper posted:He really was a tough knut to crack seriously, though, he is like at the top of my list of people I want to read a biography about. I've got one that's pretty long in my sights, so it's a project for next summer most likely. v. lenin: did you read Paa gjengrodde stier?
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Oct 15, 2015 22:47
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ulvir posted:seriously, though, he is like at the top of my list of people I want to read a biography about. I've got one that's pretty long in my sights, so it's a project for next summer most likely. no that's actually the only one i didn't get, since i bought his collected works in the 1944 edition
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Oct 16, 2015 01:19
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Name of the Rose is a fine start. My first Eco book was Foucault's Pendulum when I was fifteen. Don't do that. Really, anything that isn't Isle of the Day Before or Mysterious Flame of Queen Loanna is a fine starting point.
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Oct 16, 2015 11:49
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It's fun to read those two because they explore the exact same themes, but have radically different stories, so they're both extremely similar and extremely different.
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Oct 16, 2015 12:23
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Start with Foucault's pendulum imho
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Oct 16, 2015 17:50
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And if you want the favourite parroted by goons, there's his essay Ur-Fascism.
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Oct 17, 2015 00:18
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Eco is cool but he doesn't really have a very good idea of what fascism is.
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Oct 17, 2015 03:01
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A human heart posted:Eco is cool but he doesn't really have a very good idea of what fascism is.
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Oct 17, 2015 03:16
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foucault's pendulum is better because it features people bullshitting about how mickey mouse proves that jesus had a daughter
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Oct 17, 2015 16:45
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I read Foucault's Pendulum first and The Name of the Rose soon thereafter. I'd probably recommend people read the latter first, though. Either way, read both.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:41
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A human heart posted:Eco is cool but he doesn't really have a very good idea of what fascism is. Not even fascists had a good idea of what fascism is.
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Oct 17, 2015 20:22
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...is this a pro-fascism discussion?
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Oct 17, 2015 22:21
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not even fascists had a good idea of what fascism is. that's because fascism was a terrible idea to begin with
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Oct 17, 2015 22:24
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Fascism is good.
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Oct 18, 2015 00:22
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No, I just read For Whom the Bell Tolls and basically fascists are bad. But so are republicans/anarchists because sometimes they kill too many fascists.
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Oct 18, 2015 17:07
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it tolls for thee
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Oct 19, 2015 09:01
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I'm reading Life a User's Manual now, and I've learned a surprising amount about different puzzles within the first 100 pages
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Oct 23, 2015 10:29
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Mr. Squishy posted:it tolls for thee Uuuuh thanks buddy maybe I wanted to read it
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Oct 25, 2015 14:48
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I want to read Chinese literature, intending to start with Water Margin and Dream of the Red Chamber as I made a friend recently who owns a bookstore in China and he said those were the way to go. My feeble Western mind is having trouble figuring out the best way to buy these books, any tips? Unrelated, he also told me that the most popular books in his store these days are Chinese translations of American classics. They really love Huckleberry Finn and Mark Twain in general, apparently. my bony fealty fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 16:23
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my bony fealty posted:I want to read Chinese literature, intending to start with Water Margin and Dream of the Red Chamber as I made a friend recently who owns a bookstore in China and he said those were the way to go. My feeble Western mind is having trouble figuring out the best way to buy these books, any tips? Every Chinese student I ever taught considers Dream of the Red Chamber the worst
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Oct 26, 2015 16:46
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Did they say that because it's genuinely bad or because it's just one of those classics that they take for granted? I've always wanted to check it out...
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Oct 26, 2015 16:47
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Every Chinese student I ever taught considers Dream of the Red Chamber the worst The worst of the Chinese classics or just "the worst"? Is there one they considered the best?
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Oct 26, 2015 16:55
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Mira posted:Did they say that because it's genuinely bad or because it's just one of those classics that they take for granted? Its their version of The Scarlet Letter more or less in terms of loathing it because they were forced to read it young and just not connecting with it. my bony fealty posted:The worst of the Chinese classics or just "the worst"? Worst of the classics. To them its the slow one and meditative one where nothing much happens. Journey to the West is pretty much their fav
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Oct 26, 2015 16:55
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Oct 26, 2015 18:17
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IIRC the new translation of Jin Ping Mei is by a father-son team, which must have been interesting. Goons are sure to enjoy it, there's a bit where a guy is getting a bj and needs to piss so the girl tells him to piss in her mouth.Mel Mudkiper posted:Its their version of The Scarlet Letter more or less in terms of loathing it because they were forced to read it young and just not connecting with it. Story of the Stone is mainly popular with women 40+. Don't forget that written Chinese back then was very different to now, even though it's not that old a book.
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Oct 27, 2015 07:15
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I just finished Man Tiger by Eka Kurniawan and mark my words he will win the Nobel Prize one day
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Oct 27, 2015 20:09
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I'm several chapters into The Master and Margarita, as part of my family's book club. This happens to be my first crack at Russian literature and, to be honest, I guess I'm having some trouble with it. Or... if not trouble, it's just a lot more work than I expected, considering everybody says it's one of the more accessible pieces? Part of it is the Russian naming conventions, part of it is ignorance about the culture and time period, and a big part is that I feel like 80% of the "fun" is going over my head (the edition I'm reading has translator's commentary for each chapter at the end, but I've just stopped looking at it for now when it became less like reading and more like studying, and was really killing my momentum). I'm not really sure what I'm looking for by posting this... maybe some advice on things to keep in mind or how to get the most out of it? Edit: I picked up David Vann's "Goat Mountain" because of Moacher fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 23:04
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Don't you think reading is studying?
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