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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Since all of you answered my questions pretty nicely last time here's another, tougher one: You ever see Man of La Mancha?
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Alison Keith's Misato is never great but she's just terrible at the start.
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Radio Spiricom posted:you really ought to watch the sub, the dub completely murders the sound design. also shinji is voiced by a woman for a reason and anno gave very specific directions to most of the voice actors (this is all especially relevant when it comes to end of eva) i think sub vs dub is a boring argument but in the case of evangelion it's important. There is also the dub team taking some, to put it extremely diplomatically, "creative freedoms" with some sound effects in Death and Rebirth and End of Evangelion.
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Utritum posted:There is also the dub team taking some, to put it extremely diplomatically, "creative freedoms" with some sound effects in Death and Rebirth and End of Evangelion. I think you meant to say "direct improvements". Flamethrower bit is best.
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Evil Canadian posted:I think you meant to say "direct improvements". Flamethrower bit is best. 
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Evil Canadian posted:I think you meant to say "direct improvements". Flamethrower bit is best. HIT 'EM AGAIN!
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Yeah and now that Evangelion Robin is dead, our only hope in Hollywood is noted Eva fan Robert Blake Boner Robin is dead? I just saw him at dragon con, I could have sworn.
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Utritum posted:There is also the dub team taking some, to put it extremely diplomatically, "creative freedoms" with some sound effects in Death and Rebirth and End of Evangelion. It's a shame a bit, the liberties they took, but the English version is its own monster, and actually, rewatching it for the first time in years, it's quite good. Spencer's Shinji has always been, for me, at least as good as the original, and his EoE performance is really quite good as is Everyone else's, but really Spencer knocks it out of the park in EoE.
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My main problem with EoE's dub, and this is something I didn't know until after, is that they also replaced sound effects. I can't understand that. Someone at ADV thought it be a good idea to put that ridiculously goofy "squish' or "sploosh" or whatever the gently caress sound effect in the movie. When everything is going to hell, and SEELE goons are massacring people, and then Misato saves the day by headshotting the one that nearly got Shinji IIRC, the sound of his brains being splattered everywhere was something straight out of a Nick cartoon. Note: I might be remembering events wrong but I do absolutely remember that ludicrous sound effect. It killed any potential atmosphere and then pissed on its corpse. Shinjobi posted:EoE was done by Manga Corps Entertainment, a company that was not ADV. Oh, well that explains it. my bad. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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Dec 13, 2015 07:54
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EoE was done by Manga Corps Entertainment, a company that was not ADV. Manga Corps were notorious for being really, really lovely.
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NikkolasKing posted:My main problem with EoE's dub, and this is something I didn't know until after, is that they also replaced sound effects. I can't understand that. Someone at ADV thought it be a good idea to put that ridiculously goofy "squish' or "sploosh" or whatever the gently caress sound effect in the movie. When everything is going to hell, and SEELE goons are massacring people, and then Misato saves the day by headshotting the one that nearly got Shinji IIRC, the sound of his brains being splattered everywhere was something straight out of a Nick cartoon. It shows up in a lot of scenes. I want to say it plays again when the MP Evas are impaling themselves with the lances, too.
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I have still never seen EoE
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Would anyone musically inclined be interested on collabing on a version of Everything You've Ever Dreamed?
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Spencer's Shinji has always been, for me, at least as good as the original, and his EoE performance is really quite good as is Everyone else's, but really Spencer knocks it out of the park in EoE. The thing with Spencer is that you can tell he grows progressively into the role as the series goes on. He starts off playing Shinji in a somewhat goofy manner, but around the middle of the series the character has clicked with him. Milky Moor posted:It shows up in a lot of scenes. I want to say it plays again when the MP Evas are impaling themselves with the lances, too. Oh, it is absolutely there. But it is the scene where the MP Evas' lances explode.
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Ross Angeles posted:I have still never seen EoE What the heck
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I kinda wish FUNImation would do a re-dub like Viz did with Sailor Moon, but I'm not sure if Not-ADV still has the dubbing rights for the TV series.
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Sakurazuka posted:The live action movie was never a thing, AD Vision made some inquiries at Wignut Films (who work on all of Peter Jackson's stuff) and got quoted a minimum budget of $100 million and that was that. It was a thing and ADV had the movie rights, but a few years ago Gainax withdrew the rights by sending back the original check and the remnants of ADV began the process of suing them. So, you know, it's going well.
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Shinjobi posted:EoE was done by Manga Corps Entertainment, a company that was not ADV. Rei's voice actor, Amanda Winn Lee, was a producer, the ADR director, and dub script writer for EoE and many of the decisions that are somewhat controversial like the gooshes and saying gently caress can be solely laid at her feet.
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I think what encapsulates Lee's thought-process best regarding editing, is a bit from Death and Rebirth, where Kaji's death scene is replayed before cutting with a sound of a slap to Shinji trying to explain Kaji's death to a disbelieving Asuka. Lee apparently completely missed the point that the sound was supposed to indicate Asuka slapping Shinji, and thought it was the sound of Kaji getting shot, and confused about why the sound was not very loud and sounded more like a slap than a shot, she went ahead and replaced it with a really loud stock gun-shot sound. The worst part is that the latter part of what I just described, is actually the exact explanation she makes on the DVD commentary for making this change, during which she goes on this mini-rant about how "weak" the original sound was. 
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Midjack posted:Rei's voice actor, Amanda Winn Lee, was a producer, the ADR director, and dub script writer for EoE and many of the decisions that are somewhat controversial like the gooshes and saying gently caress can be solely laid at her feet. Yeah, but that it was done under the banner of Manga Corps is still relevant. I like to pretend in my heart of hearts that another company would not have let that happen. It is weird though, since I THINK it was her husband who helmed the series at ADV.
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Midjack posted:Rei's voice actor, Amanda Winn Lee, was a producer, the ADR director, and dub script writer for EoE and many of the decisions that are somewhat controversial like the gooshes and saying gently caress can be solely laid at her feet.  AWL, why? The fucks, I found, were not out of place, but the gooshes were just dumb.
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The really lovely era of dubbing when ADV love taking liberties with stuff outside of the voices.
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Srice posted:What the heck I can't find it anywhere
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Ross Angeles posted:I can't find it anywhere It's been out of print in the US for years.
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I prefer the English versions of evangelion because it lets me pay closer attention to what's happening on the screen. Anyways, evangelion is a work of art, it's a translation of the human soul into the video medium. The English dub is simply an interpretation of this translation. And since I've watched a shitload of the show, I think that they are both in line with one another. Each has its own unique perspective that varies slightly from one to the other. They both "get it right". Ross Angeles posted:I can't find it anywhere Have you tried the Internet.
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Ross Angeles posted:I can't find it anywhere It's hella out of print for the time being so there's no shame in piracy until whenever they finally negotiate new rights for it.
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Srice posted:It's hella out of print for the time being so there's no shame in piracy until whenever they finally negotiate new rights for it. Especially considering that the Blu Ray is out and it looks worlds better than the lovely old Manga DVD.
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I'll say this for Manga. Their trailer for End of Eva got me super loving hyped when I was younger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caAkQai8qEQ And then I watched the movie and realized that like, half of the trailer is spoilers. Which doesn't really even matter because it doesn't spoil any of the really crazy things in the movie.
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Waaaaaay to much talking in that, this is the best Evangelion trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW5DCdRp3rk
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The first couple episodes of the dub are pretty terrible, which is a real shame because I like it overall. Just wish it was more consistent. It would have been nice if they had gone back and re-recorded some of the really awful lines in the early episodes when they had the actors back in the studio for the Director's Cut episode dubs a couple years later. I've never noticed any sound effects in EoE being goofy or out of place, even knowing where they were changed. *shrug* edit: Rewatched the whole series subtitled a while back, and okay, no matter how much nostalgia I have for the dub, there's no comparison. The English dub is just so hammy and awkward compared to the original performances. esselfortium fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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I couldn't get over Fuyutski's voice in the dub, a more bored sounding person I've never heard.
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You try hanging out with loving Gendo for a couple of years and see how you end up. 
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Sakurazuka posted:I couldn't get over Fuyutski's voice in the dub, a more bored sounding person I've never heard. I mean, is that wrong?
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Sakurazuka posted:I couldn't get over Fuyutski's voice in the dub, a more bored sounding person I've never heard. "Sweet Jesus its an anti-AT field." 
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Zeruel posted:"Sweet Jesus its an anti-AT field." That's one of my favorite lines 
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Shinjobi posted:I mean, is that wrong? his character is supposed to represent the old guard resigned to dooming the current generation to repeat the same mistakes his generation made. in the dub he sounds like a disaffected tween
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Ross Angeles posted:I can't find it anywhere Bought a copy off ebay a couple years ago, think I paid $50 at the time. Totally worth it for that english commentary track though.
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what kind of fan didnt go to suncoast the day of release in the US and get the dvd along with the poster also please do not confuse US Manga Corps and Manga Entertainment Relin fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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The dub is hot garbage except for the line reading of Fuyutski and Gendo during the episode where NERV HQ loses power. "It's hot." "Yes."
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:The dub is hot garbage except for the line reading of Fuyutski and Gendo during the episode where NERV HQ loses power. That's literally the only reason the dub has any merit.
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