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Rigged Death Trap posted:All you guys need is a biochem department. Chirality's pretty cool but you really need a full course in organic chemistry to appreciate it. One post won't do it justice. There's money in chemistry you just need to break out of the instrument jockey jobs which uh isn't easy.
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It's why I bailed off my course.
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Mortimer posted:
C4 is actually pretty nice and stable. You can set it on fire and it'll just burn like wax.
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Jan 15, 2016 18:10
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You might want to leave the room, or at least wear a gas mask, after setting the fire though, because I'm sure it will poison the gently caress out of you.
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Nitroglycerin is, of course, an explosive. It's also a standard treatment for angina, where it acts as a potent vasodilator. I always wondered, how is it rendered nonexplosive? Or do angina sufferers just live with walking around with a pocket full of boom?
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Jan 15, 2016 19:12
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Phy posted:Nitroglycerin is, of course, an explosive. It's also a standard treatment for angina, where it acts as a potent vasodilator. I always wondered, how is it rendered nonexplosive? Or do angina sufferers just live with walking around with a pocket full of boom? It's less than half a milligram per pill for most patients. That's not much boom.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:25
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Kwyndig posted:It's less than half a milligram per pill for most patients. That's not much boom. And the pill itself is bigger than that, and contains a lot of inert non-booming binder materials. If you took a pound of seriously explosive nitroglycerin and distributed it across a matrix of 1000 lbs of concrete, it's not going to go boom no matter how hard you kick it.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:33
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Carroll Shelby famously won the 1959 24 Hours of Le Mans with a nitroglycerin tablet under his tongue the whole time - probably the least dangerous thing he was doing, all told.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:47
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GenericOverusedName posted:C4 is actually pretty nice and stable. You can set it on fire and it'll just burn like wax. C4 is fantastic stuff. Not shock or burn sensitive, just detonates on high energy sparks and other explosives, both of which we have in spades, but if you're careful it's fine. The cool part is seeing it and thinking wow if this alligator clip hits the petn the building is leveled.
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Jan 15, 2016 19:52
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Mortimer posted:C4 is fantastic stuff. Not shock or burn sensitive, just detonates on high energy sparks and other explosives, both of which we have in spades, but if you're careful it's fine. I really enjoyed a GIP thread about stupid stuff people saw in service. Someone posted a story of a bragging match between two dudes from different special units that ended with one of them eating C4 just to prove how tough he was. He came down with vomiting, seizures and other central nervous system symptoms, but apparently the guy lived.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:57
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That happens often enough that the toxicity of C4 and the treatment of C4 poisoning are quite extensively documented. People are dumb.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:I really enjoyed a GIP thread about stupid stuff people saw in service. Someone posted a story of a bragging match between two dudes from different special units that ended with one of them eating C4 just to prove how tough he was. He came down with vomiting, seizures and other central nervous system symptoms, but apparently the guy lived. Let's Talk About Idiots is at the same time the best and worst thread in the forums. The stories about the pure idiocy are amazing but the ones about the guys getting cheated on and child molestation are less so. Also if you read it, remember it's Goons in Platoons and they have a different take on what is acceptable language than the rest of us.
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I thought the story was he ate the C4 to get out of PT or some nonsense.
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TheDon01 posted:I thought the story was he ate the C4 to get out of PT or some nonsense. There have been enough idiots in the military that this is probably also true. Read the thread, and be in awe that some of these people think they are america's best and brightest (america doesn't offer up very much e: Also in there: someone running over C4 daisy-chained with detcord (called a MCLC, used for clearing lanes through a mine field) with a Bradley fighting vehicle just after someone had fired it and still had their hand on the detonator. They were supposed to wait for the MCLC to go off and clear a lane through the simulated minefield, but the LT in charge of the vehicle got overly excited and decided he couldn't wait. Icon Of Sin has a new favorite as of 03:29 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Memento posted:Let's Talk About Idiots is at the same time the best and worst thread in the forums. The stories about the pure idiocy are amazing but the ones about the guys getting cheated on and child molestation are less so. Also if you read it, remember it's Goons in Platoons and they have a different take on what is acceptable language than the rest of us. Is this a trigger warning?
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:Is this a trigger warning? Lol No, just most civilians don't really have a frame of reference for how high the bullshit gets piled in the armed forces, and just how loving horrifying things can get, so they might think that things like the "X CURES Y" usernames and such aren't appropriate, when in fact they're actually the best way to cope with the poo poo you've seen/had to put up with. This isn't the thread to discuss that poo poo though.
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Phy posted:Nitroglycerin is, of course, an explosive. It's also a standard treatment for angina, where it acts as a potent vasodilator. I always wondered, how is it rendered nonexplosive? Or do angina sufferers just live with walking around with a pocket full of boom? Alfred Nobel became rich (and endowed a bunch of prizes you've heard of) by figuring out that nitroglycerin could be rendered safe(r) by soaking it into diatomaceous earth. It would still explode, but now needed a detonator - it lost its shock sensitivity. Shipping cases of dynamite (Nobel's name for it, a play on "diatomaceous") on trains to mines was a whole lot safer than shipping pure nitroglycerin. The point is that nobody uses straight nitro, it's always adsorbed into some binder that attenuates its shock sensitivity. It might be possible to make a nitroglycerin pill explode using some rather extreme measures, but the amount of nitro per pill is quite small so the pop will be disappointing.
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Use a drop tower. Granted the drop has to be quite large And just yhe sound of the impact would carry more energy yhan the resultant pill explosion But eh Rigged Death Trap has a new favorite as of 08:29 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Jan 16, 2016 08:24
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In the early 20th some criminals would boil dynamite in order to extract the liquid nitroglycerin. This could be poured into the lock in order to crack a safe. Of course now you're carrying liquid nitro around with you. (This is a Bad Idea).
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The Lone Badger posted:In the early 20th some criminals would boil dynamite in order to extract the liquid nitroglycerin. This could be poured into the lock in order to crack a safe. Of course now you're carrying liquid nitro around with you. (This is a Bad Idea). I remember cleaning out the shed after my grandfather died and discovering a box of sweating dynamite. The following day or so was Exciting™.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/good_samaritans_who_were_hosed.html#incart_2boxquote:Two Good Samaritans have secured a nearly $100,000 settlement after they were exposed to a neurotoxin when they stopped to help a crashed semi-truck driver, then had to strip naked and get hosed down in freezing temperatures in the middle of Interstate 84. 
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Exit Strategy posted:I remember cleaning out the shed after my grandfather died and discovering a box of sweating dynamite. The following day or so was Exciting™. give the deets
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Well dynamite 'sweats' pure nitroglycerin... so he probably had to call the cops or the fire department.
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Mortimer posted:One of the people I work with from there taught me to make small batches of C4 which didn't even phase him because he was used to making it by the kilo
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The Lone Badger posted:In the early 20th some criminals would boil dynamite in order to extract the liquid nitroglycerin. This could be poured into the lock in order to crack a safe. Of course now you're carrying liquid nitro around with you. (This is a Bad Idea). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuO14OgTEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BDbIzovuos Humbug Scoolbus has a new favorite as of 18:29 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Kwyndig posted:Well dynamite 'sweats' pure nitroglycerin... so he probably had to call the cops or the fire department. Look at this guy. It's so precious. Call the police or fire department. Hahahahahaha. No, no. Not at all. No! We lugged the box out into the middle of a field on the property and shot at it with a rifle for a little while.
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Exit Strategy posted:Look at this guy. It's so precious. Call the police or fire department. Hahahahahaha. Rural life. 
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Exit Strategy posted:Look at this guy. It's so precious. Call the police or fire department. Hahahahahaha. And I imagined that it looked like that scene in Lost I find it amusing as well, that you can ingest C4 (or mercury for that matter) and you will live (albeit you'll get poisoned). Are there any other dangerous substances that you can eat?
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canis minor posted:And I imagined that it looked like that scene in Lost All of them, pussy. 
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Deteriorata posted:Alfred Nobel became rich (and endowed a bunch of prizes you've heard of) by figuring out that nitroglycerin could be rendered safe(r) by soaking it into diatomaceous earth. It would still explode, but now needed a detonator - it lost its shock sensitivity. Shipping cases of dynamite (Nobel's name for it, a play on "diatomaceous") on trains to mines was a whole lot safer than shipping pure nitroglycerin. What about super villains storing whole crates of the stuff in their warehouses?
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canis minor posted:And I imagined that it looked like that scene in Lost Less "waggling a stick of sweaty dynamite" and more "wow, that's a pretty big hole. Think gramma's gonna be pissed?"
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Avenging_Mikon posted:All of them, pussy.
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A beer!? I refuse to drink water because I'm terrified of water intoxication. People die from it you know!
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Keiya posted:A beer!? I refuse to drink water because I'm terrified of water intoxication. People die from it you know! Beer has a built in safety mechanism of reducing your intake rate as you get more intoxicated. As well as a well-understood purge system.
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canis minor posted:And I imagined that it looked like that scene in Lost Nitrocellulose appears to be fairly safe to eat, biologically speaking - you could probably eat enough to blow up an incinerator toilet without much in the way of side effects. (I found an MSDS that claimed 2g/kg produced no effect at all in rats.)
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Computer viking posted:Nitrocellulose appears to be fairly safe to eat, biologically speaking - you could probably eat enough to blow up an incinerator toilet without much in the way of side effects. (I found an MSDS that claimed 2g/kg produced no effect at all in rats.) you've invented Exploding poo poo
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atomicthumbs posted:you've invented Exploding poo poo Pff, taco bell did that years ago
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Chipotle is busy reinventing it using E. coli right now 
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Computer viking posted:Nitrocellulose appears to be fairly safe to eat, biologically speaking - you could probably eat enough to blow up an incinerator toilet without much in the way of side effects. (I found an MSDS that claimed 2g/kg produced no effect at all in rats.) What if it goes boom the moment it lands in your stomach?
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Next level pop rocks
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Computer viking posted:Nitrocellulose appears to be fairly safe to eat, biologically speaking - you could probably eat enough to blow up an incinerator toilet without much in the way of side effects. (I found an MSDS that claimed 2g/kg produced no effect at all in rats.) Yeah, pretty sure that, since cellulose is a long-chain molecule that the human body can't break down, it can't break down nitrocellulose either.
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