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Alan Smithee posted:Pretty sure eight ace is sandi Turns out we were Chris Roberts all along.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:36
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EminusSleepus posted:do you own a ship ? are all employees mandated to buy a ship? they will be paid in ships once the cash runs out
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Jan 28, 2016 12:37
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Pogue Ma Hoon posted:Yeah I don't require a blood debt from any cig employees past or present, just refund people or at least an apology for being so lovely. They couldn't refund 1 person in 10 even if they wanted to, most of the money has already been spent. I'd be surprised if they had more than 10-15 million left. Even so, I didn't expect to see the wheels fall off the comedy bus so soon in 2016.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:42
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:i still cant believe the pilot can blackout from g-forces while everyone else is perfectly fine. IMMERSION! And what about the players hidden in crates? Added twist: in unsecured crates?
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Jan 28, 2016 12:45
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Einbauschrank posted:And what about the players hidden in crates? Added twist: in unsecured crates? hmm good point. i guess they will black out too since they are "piloting" the crate.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:46
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AP posted:They couldn't refund 1 person in 10 even if they wanted to, most of the money has already been spent. I'd be surprised if they had more than 10-15 million left. How much longer does anyone reckon we'll see this project crash and burn? And does anyone believe Chris or Sandi or anyone will ever apologise or acknowledge the disaster that is happening?
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Jan 28, 2016 12:47
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Pogue Ma Hoon posted:Yeah I don't require a blood debt from any cig employees past or present, just refund people or at least an apology for being so lovely. I wouldn't mind getting a blood dept from CIG. It looks wonderfully cheesy, but not wonderful enough to spend my own money on.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:47
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The last few pages were a ride. It's amazing how quick the favour of brown sea and reddit shitizens has turned. Even better if Crobber is blasé about all of this. I imagine the panic will set in sharpish if it begins to have a noticeable impact on funding.Illegal Move posted:What do you guys think of my website idea: There should be a historical artifacts section, because there are things like the Beer email chain, Chris' meltdown letter and the numerous videos which should be catalogued and will be referenced by articles. Also an image gallery containing the many excellent gifs and shops that have been posted. We may have lost some stuff from the stargur incident. Your pipeline idea is interesting for highlighting the many and varied promises Crobber has made, but it would be helpful to also have a general timeline giving an overview of general happenings.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:50
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Furia posted:How much longer does anyone reckon we'll see this project crash and burn? If they get to October 2016 without screwing up really badly or ending up in court, the funding bump from Citizen Con, November sale, December sale will see them into summer 2017. Personally I think that's the most likely end times period.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:50
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Their daily income is on a downward trend at the moment. I take it there was a sale recently though because holy poo poo they made over $100k per day on the 23rd and 24th.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:58
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:caught up with the thread.gif: Glorious. There aren't words to describe the turning. It's like waves of pure loving bliss washing across cocaine covered jpegs. As for the chronological website: ChronoJam or one of the MWO nerds did a great one showing the ups, downs, and utter failings of  that would be perfect for this. Lays out in a nice interactive time line too.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:00
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:EightAce if they fire you then don't sign the NDA. You don't have to. At least not here in the US. I have been hearing that he's been having mean and rude email exchanges with media these past weeks over the Star Citizen coverage. I can't say when the latest incident took place, as that would mean outing sources due to the fact that they're reading these forums and will probably tell him that the media are still talking to Derek Smart. Then he'll go back to his emails and figure out who has been talking. Now I'm starting to get pissed at him because all this time I was under the impression that he was on the outside of this farce looking in. It appears that I was wrong.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:01
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I started writing some basic notes about Star Citizen on a whim and that was three hours ago. Now I'm sitting on two thousand words just concerning possible things to talk about. I've gotta spend some time figuring out how to tackle something on such a scope, what angle to take it from, and how invested in this entire thing I want to be if I go through with this article. Opinions piece vs overview + informative. Laughing at the entire sorry state of affairs vs trying to inform, maybe help and predict how things will play out. Some strong comments and pieces about this are already out there, and I don't want to half-rear end this thing if I'm going to do it. I read this thread because it interests me, and it makes me laugh. Reading Gorn's posts though...is there more than just the laughs? I'm amazed that more folks haven't jumped on this story. I considered offering editing services but I figure I could do more good some way else. I have yet to break out the notepad and pens to start doing some backtracking and information gathering, a large deal of that will be reading previous threads no doubt. Gotta get a clear idea of key players and the such so I can talk about this stuff accurately. Might have to ask a whole bunch of questions in one massive effort post, so we can gather information together. Still cautious about committing towards writing this piece, as the more cult minded of the star citizen saga will no doubt hound me in some way or another. It's a strange time we live in. This thread is amazing and is an absolute gold-mine of content, be it in recipe form or otherwise. I hope I don't develop jpeg-lung from it all.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:02
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alphabettitouretti posted:There should be a historical artifacts section, because there are things like the Beer email chain, Chris' meltdown letter and the numerous videos which should be catalogued and will be referenced by articles. http://partedveil.com/index.php?p=1"e=4909192  I can't find the above post on the RSI forums, if you bookmark something with the full intention of enjoying it later you might want to consider keeping a locally stored screenshot. As we saw with imgur the same goes with archiving services, take down requests can be sent. The video statements we can't do much about as there's too much crap to save.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:02
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alphabettitouretti posted:Their daily income is on a downward trend at the moment. I take it there was a sale recently though because holy poo poo they made over $100k per day on the 23rd and 24th. They get a bump on weekends, they did sell the scout thing.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:03
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Illegal Move posted:I'll probably throw together a first version of this tomorrow or over the weekend. Any ideas are welcome. All of this sounds fantastic.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:05
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Mr.Tophat posted:I started writing some basic notes about Star Citizen on a whim and that was three hours ago. Now I'm sitting on two thousand words just concerning possible things to talk about. I've gotta spend some time figuring out how to tackle something on such a scope, what angle to take it from, and how invested in this entire thing I want to be if I go through with this article. Opinions piece vs overview + informative. Laughing at the entire sorry state of affairs vs trying to inform, maybe help and predict how things will play out. Some strong comments and pieces about this are already out there, and I don't want to half-rear end this thing if I'm going to do it. I read this thread because it interests me, and it makes me laugh. Reading Gorn's posts though...is there more than just the laughs? I'm amazed that more folks haven't jumped on this story. I considered offering editing services but I figure I could do more good some way else. There's a lot to dig through. A good starting point might be to go three or four threads back and make a note of every relevant post. It's not a small task but there's been a lot of poo poo posted like links to vids, quotes etc. I have pm'd gorf about collaborating on something. If people are interested we should take it to a Trello board or something. it dont matter fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Jan 28, 2016 13:06
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G0RF posted:Why would a publisher do that? What is there really to gain by this, when to date, we've seen nothing wonderous, nothing proprietary, nothing special in Star Citizen save for what they promise will come in their "in engine"' video ads? ...and taken over $100M out of gamers coffers. That hurts even more. Though most people don't even think about that part.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:11
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Jan 28, 2016 13:13
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alphabettitouretti posted:There's a lot to dig through. A good starting point might be to go three or four threads back and make a note of every relevant post. It's not a small task but there's been a lot of poo poo posted like links to vids, quotes etc. Agreed. I'll do my best to keep at this task, in one form of another, so I'll upgrade my forums account so I can actually use private messages and such. I'll be honest, I'm siding more towards an opinion piece than guiding folks through the maze of information out there, but I'll still have to reference some of the more dramatic fiascos that have occurred. No point wasting investigative effort.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:13
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EightAce posted:I wrote a long post and then deleted it. Its turning into Custers last stand and I just don't want to get people in trouble . I have already said to much I reckon and if people get in the poo poo because of whats discussed here and the very obvious source then that is nothing but bad.  I bet the part that you can't talk about is probably related to what I hinted at the other day https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/692136062471249920
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Jan 28, 2016 13:19
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I wonder how much it cost to cast Harrison Ford.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:25
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chaosbreather posted:You know people in this thread often call the Star Citizen dream impossible for technical reasons, but I don't think that's the case. There are no real intractable problems that I've seen so far that couldn't be overcome theoretically.  Hundreds of them! With animals to hunt!
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Jan 28, 2016 13:25
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D_Smart posted:...and taken over $100M out of gamers coffers. That hurts even more. Though most people don't even think about that part. Partly because they've got a number of people who threw thousand of dollars at them? Back when they hit a million "backers", the estimate came to about $90 per backer, even though that number was inflated because they counted free accounts and whatever, so the actual amount per backer was even higher, which is not really something normal in the video gaming world as far as I know?
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Jan 28, 2016 13:25
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Some interesting spycraft going on, that's for sure. Derek, when was the last time you read how to appropriately use and treat spies in the Art of War? EightAce, be careful, protect yourself, but if you can, avoid a NDA.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:26
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Octopode, what do you think of the Star Marine stuff? Also can you spot any other RSI developer citizen profiles gone?
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Jan 28, 2016 13:27
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Matlock Birthmark posted:I'd guess his info will be the further staff departures. He seems to like to highlight those. It's not. It's pretty damning stuff known only to less than five people; three of whom are at the top. Which leaves very little wiggle room to protect sources. Still trying to figure out a way around it. It's very - very - bad.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:32
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alphabettitouretti posted:The last few pages were a ride. It's amazing how quick the favour of brown sea and reddit shitizens has turned. Even better if Crobber is blasé about all of this. I imagine the panic will set in sharpish if it begins to have a noticeable impact on funding. Alright, so I'm thinking the website will consist of: Articles - these can reference items in pipeline and historical artifacts, can also be accesed through anything they reference (so for example when looking at an item in the pipeline, you can open any article that references that item) Pipeline - all the promised things, sortable and searchable Historical Artifacts - these can reference items in the pipeline Timeline - basically a series of events displayed in a linear manner which can either be just free-form text or can also reference any/all of the above - articles, pipeline items, historical artifacts
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Jan 28, 2016 13:32
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D_Smart posted:It's very - very - bad. But funny too right? Assuming you don't have any money in this and don't work there.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:34
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D_Smart posted:It's not. It's pretty damning stuff known only to less than five people; three of whom are at the top. Which leaves very little wiggle room to protect sources. Still trying to figure out a way around it. It's very - very - bad. I am erect
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Jan 28, 2016 13:35
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Jan 28, 2016 13:39
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EightAce posted:- All the jobs being advertised are legit and they are getting really desperate now to fill those positions. However they just cant and Mr Smart's blogs are being cited as the reason. if anyone is interested they are paying above industry standard but you might only have the job for another 12 months at best. Who is citing them, prospective employees or Crobber & Co? I'm sure Derek's blogs have had some impact, but it can't be that alone. Like any industry, devs talk amongst themselves, and news about CIG's working conditions - not to mention the reputation they've garnered with their fundraising and general behaviour - will have made them poisonous. They're gonna pay for that. Not only will they struggle with resources in the near term but it's going to cost them more to hire people and they may not be able to get too picky about their hires, further reducing the quality of their work. Though at this point they could just fill the offices with stray cats and get a less janky game from them walking over the keyboards.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCWZiEBJpt0 lol I had no idea this existed.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:44
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D_Smart posted:
Come on, stop teasing, what is it? Edit: just read the stuff about only 5 in the know - yeah that makes it tough to get the word out without damning someone 
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Jan 28, 2016 13:46
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chaosbreather posted:You know people in this thread often call the Star Citizen dream impossible for technical reasons, but I don't think that's the case. There are no real intractable problems that I've seen so far that couldn't be overcome theoretically. I think the real issue is its organisationally impossible, especially for Roberts. Huge scope needs a huge diverse workforce which gets exponentially harder to manage with each new member. You have to find a ton of people who are really passionate about a lot of really different things and then harness them properly. The director has to be some kind of management genius and a borderline polymath (and probably sociopath) themselves. Keeping that many people inspired, herded, without treading on anyone else's toes, that's where it gets impossible. That's the reason why so many indies have delivered so many more space games in the mean time: the management overhead for tiny teams is far easier to overcome. The only way I think something with the scope of Star Citizen could work is if it were like Minecraft, totally supported for free by talented sperglords who spend their lives on their own transforming the original kernel to something else entirely and shifting the burden of resolving conflicts to the end user. I disagree. As a systems level engineer who has built massive games from the ground up, I can sum it all up to one word: CryEngine. Other than that, yes, you are right. Star Citizen could be made - by the very same engineers there right now - if they built a custom engine for it. I outlined this in my now famous Interstellar Citizens blog.
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Jan 28, 2016 13:47
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D_Smart posted:I outlined this in my now famous Interstellar Citizens blog. I am now un-erect
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What could Very Very Bad be? Cutting ships Introducing a subscription for the PU Sandi Gardiner leaving Cutting back to one solar system Cutting alien races Moving SQ42 release to 2017 Limits on fish tank sizes Only 1 alien language The only pets are going to be cats Cutting missions from SQ42 Cutting combat from ship boarding, you can board but you need a boarding pass Change of Engine Cutting the Professional-quality feature-length “Behind the Scenes of Star Citizen” documentary film. Cutting Facial Capture System No Space Plant Xbox One. AP fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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alphabettitouretti posted:Their daily income is on a downward trend at the moment. I take it there was a sale recently though because holy poo poo they made over $100k per day on the 23rd and 24th. They had that Gillian Anderson / X-Files sale I think.
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AP posted:Sandi Gardiner leaving I've only found out about this disaster yesterday and I know that this would be very, very good. Not that it would help any, but still.
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