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Applewhite posted:I started 3.33 fully expecting another trippy mind-bending experience that would challenge me intellectually and aesthetically ,I was open to the idea that there wouldn't be any cool, climactic battles or awesome hardware. I was even expecting it would find a way to make me angry. What I ended up getting was a huge letdown. I'm not upset like "grr what is this??" I'm upset like "I know exactly what this is: it's poo poo." I think the biggest dissapointment is that we will not be seeing 4.0 for quite some time.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:22
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Foul Ole Ron posted:I think the biggest dissapointment is that we will not be seeing 4.0 for quite some time. I'll watch 4.0, but, unlike 3.33, I'm no longer stoked to see it.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:25
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The fact that you're calling it poo poo while you previously complained that it was bad because Shinji wasn't a huge badass who finally manned up makes me think you weren't as prepared for those things as you claimed.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:26
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Foul Ole Ron posted:I think the biggest dissapointment is that we will not be seeing 4.0 for quite some time. They should put it up for preorder now so that people can have something on their amazon list again
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Feb 4, 2016 21:26
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I hope Godzilla 2016 is secretly 4.0.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:28
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Applewhite posted:I'll watch 4.0, but, unlike 3.33, I'm no longer stoked to see it. Which might be a good thing, imagin if you really wanted to see it ? God knows when Anno is back in the mood to finish 4.0. Imagine that wait if you were stoked? Jesus, we (me anyway) all need to get out more.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:29
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ImpAtom posted:The fact that you're calling it poo poo while you previously complained that it was bad because Shinji wasn't a huge badass who finally manned up makes me think you weren't as prepared for those things as you claimed. I didn't say I was mad that Shinji wasn't a huge badass I said I was mad that he seemed to have completely undone all the character growth he underwent in 2.22 and reached new depths of being whiny and awful. And no, I wasn't prepared for that. I guess I was expecting Shinji to have learned something.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:29
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I had no idea there was more to Applewhite than being a GBS troll. He watches dumb animes in his free time just like I do. Fascinating.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:30
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Linnaeus posted:They should put it up for preorder now so that people can have something on their amazon list again I still have 3.33 cos its not out here for another couple of weeks.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:31
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Applewhite posted:I didn't say I was mad that Shinji wasn't a huge badass I said I was mad that he seemed to have completely undone all the character growth he underwent in 2.22 and reached new depths of being whiny and awful. He is, he is learning that life can be poo poo and for reasons outside his (your) control. But that does not mean to give up.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:31
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Shinji's arc in 2.22 ends with him learning to ignore the well being of others and act selfishly to get what he wants. This same selfishness is what motivates him through the entirety of 3.33.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:37
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Console Role Player posted:I had no idea there was more to Applewhite than being a GBS troll. He watches dumb animes in his free time just like I do. Fascinating. I keep the trolling in GBS. When I post in other subforums its because I am interested in having a real discussion on that subforum's topic.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:37
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Applewhite posted:I didn't say I was mad that Shinji wasn't a huge badass I said I was mad that he seemed to have completely undone all the character growth he underwent in 2.22 and reached new depths of being whiny and awful. Character growth isn't always inherently positive. This is true of Shinji in the original series as well where things become far worse for him (at about the exact same time in the series) and he responds badly to it. This is the dude who literally masturbated to a comatose girl and talked about how hosed up he was. That's kind of why I'm stressing this point. This is Shinji becoming more broken and hosed up by the horrible events that happened to him. We're 3/4ths of the way through and 3/4ths of the way through is where things tend to be the worst for any protagonist, let alone an Evangelion protagonist. This is exactly where terrible things should be expected to happen. I mean I can understand if you just don't find him sympathetic and that is completely your own prerogative, but I don't think Shinji ending up worse than he was before is an inherent flaw. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 21:39
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ImpAtom posted:Character growth isn't always inherently positive. This is true of Shinji in the original series as well where things become far worse for him (at about the exact same time in the series) and he responds badly to it. This is the dude who literally masturbated to a comatose girl and talked about how hosed up he was. Exactly, 3.0 is the rebuild equivalent of the last half of the original series.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:43
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Raxivace posted:Shinji's arc in 2.22 ends with him learning to ignore the well being of others and act selfishly to get what he wants. This same selfishness is what motivates him through the entirety of 3.33. One of many things I really like about the Rebuilds is showing that Shinji truly has a lot in common with his father, even moreso than the series.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:47
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I got my 3.0 blu ray finally. Now when am I gonna get my series on blu-ray in english!!!!!
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Feb 4, 2016 21:47
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I've said it before but the single greatest thing about Q is how it forced so many supposed die-hard fans to confront the fact that they don't "get" Evangelion nearly as well as they thought they did.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:49
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Srice posted:One of many things I really like about the Rebuilds is showing that Shinji truly has a lot in common with his father, even moreso than the series. Yeah, it's something I really enjoy about these movies. Gendo is the thing that Shinji is becoming without quite realizing it, though it's not quite too late for him to grow into something else either. I think it goes to show too that Shinji's problem isn't just a lack of self-confidence. If anything his moments of greater confidence in Rebuild are when he's at his most Gendo-like. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 21:51
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I'm not up with all the cinematic lingo and such that can help me fully articulate my issues with 3.33. All I know is that I really enjoyed 1.11 and 2.22. I felt they had stunning visuals, intense emotion and rich, if at times heavy handed, symbolism (does everything need to be a cross?). I didn't experience any joy, excitement, sadness or even puzzlement at 3.33. Just a sort of irritated disappointment. I kept waiting for the magic to happen and it didn't. I was not visually impressed or surprised by anything the movie threw at me. Maybe 3.33 has excellent credentials on paper but I say the proof is in the pudding.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:53
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You are mistaking the disappointment of your self-constructed expectations for a flaw in the work. It is not bad; merely not to your tastes.
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Feb 4, 2016 21:57
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best part of the eva simul:
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I wonder if the curse might some how reflect Annos mood about EVA at the time also? He made a show with a pretty clear message, people still want more he makes a filn with a pretty clear message and people still wanted more. Hes cursed to say the same thing again and again and have people still want more. 3.0 is actually him artificially casuing people to question the show and demand more. Hes redoing. ... rebuilding the intial Eva process ..... but in control this time. Also I want an angry Shinji coffee cup. Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Feb 4, 2016 22:15
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3.0 is great you have it all, laser beams in space, giant hosed up piles of corpses, a flirty piano sequence what more could you want?
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Feb 4, 2016 22:38
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Srice posted:One of many things I really like about the Rebuilds is showing that Shinji truly has a lot in common with his father, even moreso than the series. Raxivace posted:Yeah, it's something I really enjoy about these movies. Gendo is the thing that Shinji is becoming without quite realizing it, though it's not quite too late for him to grow into something else either.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:38
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Applewhite posted:I'll watch 4.0, but, unlike 3.33, I'm no longer stoked to see it. Sure dude we'll see you back here in a few years
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Feb 4, 2016 22:39
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mr. stefan posted:You are mistaking the disappointment of your self-constructed expectations for a flaw in the work. It is not bad; merely not to your tastes. Yeah well I find it difficult to believe I'm somehow watching it incorrectly. I thought I went into it with an open mind but if one of the requirements for enjoying 3.33 is to be open minded about it being mediocre then I guess I'm stuck.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:53
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:3.0 is great  3.0 has some loving gorgeous cinematography.
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Feb 4, 2016 22:59
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Davincie posted:prometheus was garbage
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Feb 4, 2016 23:05
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Nate RFB posted:I liked Asuka's eye patch. Yeah that was cool, and I appreciated that her Eva was also missing an eye.
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Feb 4, 2016 23:42
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Never thought I'd see a "Analyzing Symbols Is Dumb" post in the Evangelion thread. It's probably the most logical place for it to happen, at least as long as CineD continues to have good moderation.
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Applewhite posted:Yeah well I find it difficult to believe I'm somehow watching it incorrectly. Well, I mean. you finding it difficult to believe doesn't make it not true.
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Feb 5, 2016 00:46
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Applewhite posted:I'll watch 4.0, but, unlike 3.33, I'm no longer stoked to see it. Applewhite posted:I'm not up with all the cinematic lingo and such that can help me fully articulate my issues with 3.33. All I know is that I really enjoyed 1.11 and 2.22. I felt they had stunning visuals, intense emotion and rich, if at times heavy handed, symbolism (does everything need to be a cross?). Applewhite posted:I didn't say I was mad that Shinji wasn't a huge badass I said I was mad that he seemed to have completely undone all the character growth he underwent in 2.22 and reached new depths of being whiny and awful. Applewhite posted:I started 3.33 fully expecting another trippy mind-bending experience that would challenge me intellectually and aesthetically ,I was open to the idea that there wouldn't be any cool, climactic battles or awesome hardware. I was even expecting it would find a way to make me angry. What I ended up getting was a huge letdown. I'm not upset like "grr what is this??" I'm upset like "I know exactly what this is: it's poo poo." Evangelion has succeeded. Thank you for watching.
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Feb 5, 2016 01:57
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Robotnik Nudes posted:People who hate Prometheus invariably seem to be the worst kind of geeks who think those "Honest Trailers" and "Eevrything Wrong with X Movie in X Seconds" videos aren't pustulating anti-intellectual tumors on the cultural consciousness. It was a lot of fun to be around nerds when Prometheus came out. Obviously the group consensus was that it was garbage and they were all happily stroking each other's egos for having the right movie opinions. But when pressed no one could really come up with anything more damning than Charlize Theron being dumb for not running sideways. Of course these are the kind of people that get excited for every single super hero movie that comes out... Though honestly I think it's fine not to like 3.33 as I'm not really all that satisfied with it myself, although that feeling basically covers the Rebuilds as a whole.
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To be fair Prometheus also became the rally point for reactionary contrarian nerds who wanted to pretend it was some deep movie rather than a rather generic space movie.
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Feb 5, 2016 07:28
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It's basically a ropey B movie with a hollywood budget. But yeah that one Prometheus thread was pretty special.
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Feb 5, 2016 07:33
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He's probably dead.
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I think a kind of annnoying thing about 3.33 is that ultimately nothing really happened. They were spinning their wheels waiting for the finale which is still a long time off. The only advancement to the plot was: -jump ahead 14 years to see a post-apocalyptic hellscape -seele gets shut down -kaworu dies -fourth impact almost happens, but then it doesn't Then at the end the characters are practically in the same situation as the beginning of the movie after Shinji gets busted out of stasis. I like the movie, don't get me wrong. It just allllllllllmost felt like filler with nice visuals and amazing music.
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