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UV_Catastrophe posted:Fun anecdote: Whichever conservative student group that was hosting Shapiro here had people advertising the event inside the student union building this past week. This basically consisted of a guy holding up a sign with Shapiro on it and displaying the title of his little event, which was apparently called "When Diversity Becomes a Problem". Sounds like that guy could've used, dare I say it? A safe space 
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Mr Jaunts posted:Sounds like that guy could've used, dare I say it? A safe space He'd counter with, "if our student body was less diverse I wouldn't need a safe space."
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Rick_Hunter posted:He'd counter with, "if our student body was less diverse I wouldn't need a safe space." I would love to see the reaction from the two.black students ineed this hypothetical.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:Fun anecdote: Whichever conservative student group that was hosting Shapiro here had people advertising the event inside the student union building this past week. This basically consisted of a guy holding up a sign with Shapiro on it and displaying the title of his little event, which was apparently called "When Diversity Becomes a Problem". It's always funny to watch big, strong Racist rough guys melt when exposed to reality away from the safety of the herd.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:33
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The "you ain't a Muslim" tax gets quoted as Muslim religious persecution of others in the past but it was also tied up in the fact that Muslims could serve in Islamic militaries but non-Muslims couldn't. It was a sort of "hey you can't serve but we're keeping you safe so give us some gold, tia" tax. There is also the factor of Islamic states not trusting non-Muslims to be effective soldiers, particularly in cases where they might be fighting others who shared their religion. They didn't want Christians in the military, and capitalized economically instead. It wasn't purely altruistic. Also even discounting what Christians did to non-Christians, we can look at what Christians did to the wrong kind of Christian. Syrian Miaphysites and Egyptian Copts put up no resistance to the Arab invasions because paying Jizya was far preferable to facing persecution, torture and execution just for minor differences in belief about the nature of Christ. Muslim religious persecution had nothing on Christian religious persecution in the middle ages.
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AdjectiveNoun posted:There is also the factor of Islamic states not trusting non-Muslims to be effective soldiers, particularly in cases where they might be fighting others who shared their religion. They didn't want Christians in the military, and capitalized economically instead. It wasn't purely altruistic. That sort of true, but then you have pretty big counter examples like the Ottoman Empire's Janissaries who were explicitly Christian slaves trained to be the most elite troops in the empire. And despite Islam being historically pretty nice to other Abrahamic religions you didn't want to be a Zoroastrian in a Muslim country. History is complicated and hosed up.
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Dabir posted:Was that the inflating butt? No.  the left one is the evil sexual one that is pernicious and will demean women that had to be romoved because some dad on the forum got offended by it, the right one is the new one which basically better done version of the left one, so i view it a subtle middle finger to the person who complained. personaly i like the right one better. but i think removing the left one in the first place was kinda pointless just because one jack off complained. besides the right one is more sexual looking sort of. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 22:24
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Dapper_Swindler posted:No. Wait, so this controversy is over a character's new sexy pose that just slightly deemphasizes her butt?
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Plus the new one actually looks like a victory pose, and not "hey gamers check out this butt" That said, it's beta (a real beta, not early access fake beta). Getting all up in arms about character models and poses is doubly silly because they change a lot. They got feedback that it looked dumb and changed it. The gaming industry and especially consumers can be enormous sexist shitlords but this isn't really a good example of it in an industry where this is the standard of how the exact same set of clothing changes by gender, from the same company even: 
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Equeen posted:Wait, so this controversy is over a character's new sexy pose that just slightly deemphasizes her butt? No. some dude on the blizzard forum got pissed about the victory pose on the left. because it was sexualized or some poo poo and he had a daughter and didnt want her to feel pressure or some poo poo. so blizzard told him ok againts the massive outcry on the blizzard forum who thought he was just being a weird prude. so a week or so passes and blizzard releases the NEW pose(the one on the right) which doesn't change anything except it makes tracer more "spunky". in the end blizzard trolled everyone.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:No. some dude on the blizzard forum got pissed about the victory pose on the left. because it was sexualized or some poo poo and he had a daughter and didnt want her to feel pressure or some poo poo. so blizzard told him ok againts the massive outcry on the blizzard forum who thought he was just being a weird prude. so a week or so passes and blizzard releases the NEW pose(the one on the right) which doesn't change anything except it makes tracer more "spunky". in the end blizzard trolled everyone. I really gotta disagree. The complaint with the first pose is that it was generic, didn't fit the characters personality, and had a huge well defined butt as the center piece of the pose. When basically every female character in gaming since forever just exists to show off tits and rear end, it can be annoying for someone to have a female character who is mostly not sexualized have some lazy bit of character work like the original pose. Blizzard changed it to a more dynamic pose that is no longer just showing off a big rear end crack. I don't think they trolled anyone. Most people trolled themselves into oblivion because they are stupid shitheads that think 'SJWs' & 'censorship' are ruining games. The bigger issue with the 'controversy' is that a bunch of dudes have made media their like last stand against what they view of as content creators shrinking desire to cater to their every whim and so view constructive criticism & feedback as censorship and outrage.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:43
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The new pose is better for a number of reasons; it's more dynamic, fits the established personality better, and is a fairly classy artistic reference rather than "here is an rear end, please enjoy it."
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Apr 7, 2016 22:53
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Also frankly I hope there's some oiled up shirtless hunks with big guns, dark hair, and smoldering gazes for uh *adjusts tie while waggling eyebrows* fairer representation
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Apr 7, 2016 22:57
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It is a good change that is far from "trolling" against the original complaint.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:58
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Jerkface posted:Blizzard changed it to a more dynamic pose They didn't just change it because of this one complaint. In the feedback thread itself they said that they'd already thought the same internally. It is the molehilliest of mountains.
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Apr 7, 2016 23:02
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It's an improvement and dat rear end is intact. Blizzard = Good dev Capcom = Bad dev
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Apr 7, 2016 23:06
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McGlockenshire posted:They didn't just change it because of this one complaint. In the feedback thread itself they said that they'd already thought the same internally. Plus you know, it's a beta Of course there is always Ethics in Video Games to consider I suppose
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Apr 7, 2016 23:08
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McGlockenshire posted:They didn't just change it because of this one complaint. In the feedback thread itself they said that they'd already thought the same internally. Regardless the character model just seems to have orange stuff painted on from the waist down, and that butt cleavage makes me wonder if they understand how pants work.
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Epic High Five posted:Plus the new one actually looks like a victory pose, and not "hey gamers check out this butt" Even her shins are exposed. Like, why couldn't she get some proper armor there like the guy? Are there really people who get turned on by digitized bare shins? Wait, don't answer that.
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Apr 7, 2016 23:59
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STAC Goat posted:Even her shins are exposed. Like, why couldn't she get some proper armor there like the guy? Are there really people who get turned on by digitized bare shins? Don't think too hard about it, just visualize that one olgaf comic with the orcs dressing up in bikinis and you'll feel better.
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Apr 8, 2016 00:11
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Wherein Greg Gutfield owns Bill O'Reilly http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/04/06/oreilly-attacks-fox-colleague-that-calls-out-hi/209799 quote:
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Tatum Girlparts posted:You gotta keep in mind there is literally nothing these people want more than to claim to be oppressed because they're not being allowed to oppress others. These are the people that dump piles of money on anyone who uses the magic combo of words like "SJW" and "Censorship" regardless of actual reality. If you wanna make some quick cash and somehow no longer care about your reputation, just start screaming racial slurs in public and film yourself being escorted away to show Your Proud Voice Being Silenced or whatever, the gofundme will be made by the next day. Good point. Also worth pointing out that they do this so that they always have someone else to blame for their failures (media, government, liberals, atheists, taxes, minorities, Muslims, environmentalists, queers). No shortage of "others" for these types. For a long time it was mostly Commies, hippies and blacks. Geostomp posted:As long as there are people ready to blame anyone different from them for their problems who want validation, the rabid right wing will always have an audience. Basically this. Except it's hilarious coming for the party of rigid individualism, freedom and personal responsibility Pyroxene Stigma posted:He didn't say we need to kick people out of the country or that we should pull women's medical records for retribution. He basically said, if America outlawed abortion (aka if Roe v Wade were overturned, like many people claim they want) then women who abort should enter the justice system. People flipped. Yeah, but I heard that question was hypothetical and therefore a dastardly trick, since no politicians get asked hypothetical questions ever. I don't think the equivalency you're drawing makes sense either, assuming I'm reading you right. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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Crowder has tour dates! And filming a comedy special  DATES: APRIL 22 Bucknell University 6:00 pm APRIL 25 University of Massachusetts Amherst | Click for more info APRIL 28 Towson University Maryland MAY 6th Jefferson County Republicans (INFO SOON) OCTOBER 14 Hillsdale College (TAPING STAND-UP SPECIAL) 7:30 and 9:00
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Expect to possibly hear this in the right wing outrage-o-sphere: https://www.facebook.com/WRTV6/posts/10153681530689092 goddamnit Indiana posted:A 14-year-veteran of the Indiana State Police was fired Thursday for allegedly proselytizing to people he stopped for traffic violations. Hilarious that he kept at it even though he got read the riot act and sued over it. Imagine if it was a Muslim cop doing the same thing. I specifically linked the facebook post so y'all could browse the comments and enjoy the thinkpieces of my fellow Hoosiers with me quote:So apparently there isn't any freedom of speech anymore. This world is getting ridiculous. Good for you Trooper Hamilton for being strong in who you are. If the people who are complaining about what you said to them during the traffic stops didn't like the comments they should of just stated they were uncomfortable instead of crying to the government. Needs to be more people like you. quote:Why is it okay to preach about other religions except Christianity?! He shouldn't be fired for his personal beliefs on or off the clock. That's ridiculous. quote:If all of us professed Christians would only be so bold! Two turned him in, but I wonder how many seeds he planted! It is a sad state of affairs when this is what costs you your job, and I am sure he knew the risks, but chose to follow Jesus anyway. a whole lotta meth that i could've guessed was from Kokomo posted:And yet the cop that was politically charged in motivations on why i could not attend a common council meeting of which im standing up protecting myself but my community asking for the slumlord issue to be met head on still has job and in fact on lovely vaction and yes i have video proof . i have had multiple rights in the mess im in. And now deprivation of rights under color of law i still need help sad when i have to live in fear over their misconduct and again i have video that back up the politically charged motivations he was clearly acting outside of police duties here in kokomo
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Epic High Five posted:Expect to possibly hear this in the right wing outrage-o-sphere: The obvious thing to do is link to that story but claim he was proselytizing for Islam and watch people explode, then go oh wait he was a Christian. Because no one actually reads the story. Ever.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:The obvious thing to do is link to that story but claim he was proselytizing for Islam and watch people explode, then go oh wait he was a Christian. I put that forward in the comments, asking the local evangelicals how they'd like to be pulled over by a Muslim and coerced into converting. Probably won't get any response thought. Most of the right wing around here is trained to just immediately pivot to something else if challenged at all, then start screaming if you don't let their original point drop. Also when it originally happened it made the rounds, so I doubt it'd fool anybody
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Crowder has tour dates! It's probably a coincidence, but why am I not surprised Towson is on there. That was the school that had the white supremacist student who formed a white student union that got a bunch of press. (I'm sure it's a fine school but that is all I know about it)
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Intel&Sebastian posted:GUTFELD: There you go, a little personal friendship there, aye, Bill? This basic thing happens like once a week on The Five. I don't know what the gently caress is up Gutfeld's rear end about it but he hates Trump and is seemingly genuinely outraged at the hypocrisy of Fox News when it comes to Trump. I've constantly seen him call out The Five and Fox News for this poo poo and then there's just a moment of silence when one of them basically tells him to shut up because some producer is probably screaming in their ears. Gutfeld: Bill, you're biased because Trump is you buddy. Bill: What the gently caress?! You're not supposed to say that! Trump is so weird. He's made me like Megyn Kelly and Greg Gutfeld more, and I hate those two fuckers.
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quote:O'REILLY: What is wrong with you?
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Chris Hayes had Hugh Hewitt on his show, and drat but that man has a face for radio. He spent the whole time with a creepy rictus grin that looked like his skin was stretched out over his face.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:No. The one on the right is based on a pinup artist's piece:  So, they traded one sexual pose for another, more iconic one. Troll as gently caress.  Polygon article: http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/6/11376814/overwatch-tracer-pose-butt-replacement
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STAC Goat posted:This basic thing happens like once a week on The Five. I don't know what the gently caress is up Gutfeld's rear end about it but he hates Trump and is seemingly genuinely outraged at the hypocrisy of Fox News when it comes to Trump. I've constantly seen him call out The Five and Fox News for this poo poo and then there's just a moment of silence when one of them basically tells him to shut up because some producer is probably screaming in their ears. Gutfeld is pretty close with the Reason crew, who despise Trump because even libertarians recognize the danger of authoritarian strongmen*. *If the strongman's name doesn't begin with 'P' and end with 'inochet'
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Jazerus posted:Gutfeld is pretty close with the Reason crew, who despise Trump because even libertarians recognize the danger of authoritarian strongmen*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCgOkVn_G9Q This video literally sums up Gutfield. When he says pro-evangelical poo poo? It's to make sure the check clears. He doesn't give a poo poo.
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STAC Goat posted:Trump is so weird. He's made me like Megyn Kelly and Greg Gutfeld more, and I hate those two fuckers. That's one of the odd effects of primary seasons. It is hilarious and so satisfying watching these shitlords scream at each other. But there is that underlying sense of unease when you have to think to yourself "I kinda agree with what that one shitlord is saying."
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Mister Macys posted:So, they traded one sexual pose for another, more iconic one. What a wonderful reason to not purchase their game. vvvv Well, Blizzard keeps confirming my suspicion that they are the devil. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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The fact that it has multiplayer escort missions should have been reason enough for that.
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Mister Macys posted:The fact that it has multiplayer escort missions should have been reason enough for that. In light of the recent buttroversy, I feel like the word escort might need to be clarified here.
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Mister Macys posted:The one on the right is based on a pinup artist's piece: To add to this, the person who complained said he was 100% okay with the character Widowmaker, who looks like this:  And he felt that the original Tracer pose was best suited for someone like her and not someone who is essentially Rainbow Dash. So Blizzard wasn't trolling anybody, because I think the same guy actually said he liked the new pose for Tracer.
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What in the gently caress is going on, physically, with both of those characters, Jesus Christ.
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They're cartoon characters. Think about the scene from Space Jam where Michael stretches his arm out for the final dunk, but with everything.
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