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lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
Please share your secret Facebook groups of hapless old people off-loading stuff from their large collections, TIA

(they're probably all in the US and the shipping will be prohibitive anyway :smith:)

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The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Anyone that happens to be in the Vegas area on Saturday the 7th, there is going to be a model show at the Orleans Hotel & Casino. It's supposedly a pretty big show. I'm taking my ship up to enter as an excuse to take a day off work (tomorrow) and spend a couple days in Vegas.

The display area is closed from 1-3 for judging (not sure I get why they do it that way), so if you want to go, it looks like 9am - 1pm is the time frame to look at stuff.

I don't think there is any charge to look, as the only fee I can find anywhere is for model entry.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

lilljonas posted:

Please share your secret Facebook groups of hapless old people off-loading stuff from their large collections, TIA

(they're probably all in the US and the shipping will be prohibitive anyway :smith:)

It's cheaper to ship from Europe than from the US somehow :( I blame NAFTA.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Ensign Expendable posted:

It's cheaper to ship from Europe than from the US somehow :( I blame NAFTA.

Shipping is strange in general. I bought a set of Egyption Cotton sheets off of Amazon, they weren't Prime, but they were 'free shipping'. No biggy, don't need them super fast. I had them 5 days later, from India. The goofy sheet set was less than $40, and it shipped free from India and did not come by boat.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

The Locator posted:

Shipping is strange in general. I bought a set of Egyption Cotton sheets off of Amazon, they weren't Prime, but they were 'free shipping'. No biggy, don't need them super fast. I had them 5 days later, from India. The goofy sheet set was less than $40, and it shipped free from India and did not come by boat.

I bought some die-cast Marder IIIs from China. They were less than 10 bucks each, including shipping.

Buying some model foliage from the US? That's 20+ bucks for shipping.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Yeah in Canada about the most expensive source of any product is the USA. It's not even free shipping deals, it's just the actual shipping. I'll have friends in Europe or Asia send me stuff and it will be a fraction of what it costs to ship from the US. Also despite often being around the same value, I never get my non-US shipments hit for customs, yet my US ones usually do.

I don't know why it's so bad.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
It was cheaper for me to buy a book from the UK Amazon and have it shipped here than buy the same book in a Canadian bookstore :(

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
So, inspired by the crapcar, I decided to make a not-so-crap car!







It's an Eastern Express BA-6 commander's version. Those of you familiar with Eastern Express probably know about their eh... unimpressive build quality. The detail is soft, the fit is poor, parts are few, and there is a hilarious amount of flash plastic. On the other hand, you get plenty of options, including a good chunk of the GAZ-AA sprues that the armoured car was built on. The tires are rubber, but you only get 1 spare as opposed to 2 (the manual even tells you to make 2!) and they don't slip on easily once you assembled the wheel, so you can't first paint the rims and then put on the tires. But hey, there's a pretty decent amount of underside detail and even an engine!



Here it is in its position in a diorama I'm building. The rest of it will be filled out shortly.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The Locator posted:

Anyone that happens to be in the Vegas area on Saturday the 7th, there is going to be a model show at the Orleans Hotel & Casino. It's supposedly a pretty big show. I'm taking my ship up to enter as an excuse to take a day off work (tomorrow) and spend a couple days in Vegas.

The display area is closed from 1-3 for judging (not sure I get why they do it that way), so if you want to go, it looks like 9am - 1pm is the time frame to look at stuff.

I don't think there is any charge to look, as the only fee I can find anywhere is for model entry.

They close the area so the judges don't have people bothering them and questioning the scores while they're judging, which happens all the time if you don't do something about it. I've been to like one show ever where people were around and the judges didn't get mobbed, and that one is a niche event where everyone knows everyone else for the most part.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Crapship and crapship diorama update. Work has been kicking my rear end lately, so there's been very little energy for modeling, but there's something to show:



Revell 1/1200 USS Missouri with their Yamato behind her and some Panzerschiffe 1/2400s in front. The smaller scale stuff is a battlecruiser and a light cruiser. You can really see how ship sizes grew from pre-WW1 to late WW2, the Missouri is only twice the scale but looks like a mother nursing her kits with a 1/2400 scale capital ship alongside. The 1/2400s are sitting on a test of a textured ocean base.



A more overhead shot of the two 1/1200 battlewagons with a few extra light cruisers (4500-6500 tons). You can really see the difference between the 45,000 ton Iowa class and the 70,000 ton Yamato. Those clean lines on the American ship are why the Iowas could make 5 or 6 knots more than the Yamatos. That chunk-style citadel really slows a ship down.

The Revell kits are cheap inexpensive and easy to put together. Expect to do a fair amount of gap filling, but for roughly :10bux: you get a kit that looks like what it's supposed to be. The light anti-aircraft guns (40mm and smaller) are just molded on, but on the Panzerschiffe models even the main batteries are molded in. I figure the cheap models will look really good with molded bases, funnel and gun smoke, and a bunch of shell splashes.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

mllaneza posted:

Crapship and crapship diorama update. Work has been kicking my rear end lately, so there's been very little energy for modeling, but there's something to show:




I'm not going to read the rest of your post because it will spoil the image I have in my mind of your diorama being Momma Battleship follows by her Battle Battleships like ducklings trailing the mother.

(I did read the rest of your post and I appreciate that you used kits because that describes both baby animals and the assemblage of pieces used to make these models)

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Midjack posted:

They close the area so the judges don't have people bothering them and questioning the scores while they're judging, which happens all the time if you don't do something about it. I've been to like one show ever where people were around and the judges didn't get mobbed, and that one is a niche event where everyone knows everyone else for the most part.

Ok. My only personal experience is with Modelzona, where they manage to judge everything without closing down the display area, and I never really noticed the judges betting mobbed / bothered while they were inspecting the models.

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer

Ensign Expendable posted:

Any obscure Eastern European models in there? I'm jonesing for an MS-1, but can't find any EE model sold in North America :(

MS-1 is the same as T-18? Because a new mold Hobbyboss T-18 should be out this year.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Gervasius posted:

MS-1 is the same as T-18? Because a new mold Hobbyboss T-18 should be out this year.

Yup. Cool, I'll check it out.

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer

lilljonas posted:

Please share your secret Facebook groups of hapless old people off-loading stuff from their large collections, TIA

(they're probably all in the US and the shipping will be prohibitive anyway :smith:)

MJP posted:

A few of the Facebook scale model sell/trade groups have 'em up from time to time in 1/48 and 1/72. Military Model Sell and Trade Area and Military Model Graveyard are the big ones. Chances are if you post and ask, someone will have one.

Just beware, I think the average age of either group is something like 57. Prepare yourself for a lot of Minions macros, although you generally get prices that beat Ebay since the folks there would rather deal directly and don't know how to price compare.

There's Plastic Model Swap and Sale or something like that, it's the UK if that makes life easier. Those groups I mentioned do have several Canadian sellers/traders, if you're from poutinetown. MKTG - Model Kit Trade Group as well.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Finished my diorama.











My first go at grassy terrain, decided to go for a dirt road in the steppe look.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Very nice EE.

So the model show in Vegas was pretty good, with over 450 entries if I heard correctly.

I have decided that model show judging is basically throwing darts though.

The tiny carrier that came in second to my ship back in November won best of show here. My ship did not even trophy. :iiam:

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something

The Locator posted:

I have decided that model show judging is basically throwing darts though.

This.

Especially as shows start getting older, and they keep adding more categories and awards year after year, until they're giving out 200 awards per show. How do you even keep track of that and accurately judge each model. It ends up just like the Oscars, where everything they saw at the beginning is forgotten, and everything they saw last gets the awards.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I know the way the Golden Demon does it is they pick out mistakes on models until they find the one with the least mistakes. That seems kind of like a semi-viable way of doing things.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





The overall number of categories really shouldn't matter, since each category is judged on its own.

This was an IPMS show, so the judging for each category is done by a team of three judges. In ships, there were 8 entries in large scale and 6 entries in small scale. 1st through 3rd awarded for each group. The two first places would then be eligible for best in show.

The method for judging should be pretty much what Arq said, simple process of elimination until you are left with the top three, and then focus on those for final order.

I just found it interesting that a specific model that one group of judges found 2nd to mine, while a completely different set of judges found that ship to be best in show but mine not even in the top 3 in the class. The one thing that I wish they could do is to provide a critique sheet so I could learn what the judges found deficient in the model so I can learn from it.

I understand that this is impossible for a show like this simply due to time.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Often they retain the sheets and you can contact the organization after the show for specific feedback. Not always, though, and the sooner you ask the less likely they are to have discarded everything. A super organized outfit will scan and post everything referenced by entry number or something so you can look it up at your leisure but that's uncommon.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Do you love fiddling around with those microscopic brass aftermarket parts?
Do you love trying to precisely bend something smaller than a dandruff flake 90 degrees in 13 places?
Do you want to do this a few hundred times in a row until your hands are horribly gnarled and you're essentially cross-eyed for life?

"Well then, you're in luck! I have just the kit for you!"

____________________________________/


http://hobbycom.jp/workshop/special/25.html

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



gently caress that forever

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





It's 1/32 scale, those parts are all *huge* man!

Midjack posted:

Often they retain the sheets and you can contact the organization after the show for specific feedback. Not always, though, and the sooner you ask the less likely they are to have discarded everything. A super organized outfit will scan and post everything referenced by entry number or something so you can look it up at your leisure but that's uncommon.

I emailed the contact for the competition, since for whatever reason that IPMS group doesn't have any of their contact information on their website. We'll see. I know that they didn't have any sort of feedback on the sheets, as I saw a couple of them and they were just marked with 1st/2nd/3rd, maybe with the ones they weeded out X'd out, but no comments or anything, and some of the judging teams were a bit iffy.. One of the categories turned in a sheet with 2 1st place winners and a 3rd.. They had to page for that team captain to come up and fix it before they could award that group.

The Locator fucked around with this message at 23:33 on May 8, 2016

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Blistex posted:

Do you love fiddling around with those microscopic brass aftermarket parts?
Do you love trying to precisely bend something smaller than a dandruff flake 90 degrees in 13 places?
Do you want to do this a few hundred times in a row until your hands are horribly gnarled and you're essentially cross-eyed for life?

"Well then, you're in luck! I have just the kit for you!"

____________________________________/


http://hobbycom.jp/workshop/special/25.html

My heart is saying YES!!!!
My brain is saying gently caress NOOOOOO!!!!!

My wallet just laughs and I remember I couldn't afford it either way, plus I have no where to display it properly.

edit: actually, would that be even that bad?

*NO! Bad Brain! NO!*

Tig Ol Bitties
Jan 22, 2010

pew pew pew



I finished my first model! I had a ton of fun, built my favorite plane, and learned a lot, mainly: take the extra time to do it right the first time, decals are not that scary, try to not get glue and paint all over the windows, and holy crap, is modeling fun. Next on the list is finishing our P-61 and Do 335, then a lil' F-4 for my nephew. :dance:

I'm mostly proud because I tend to pick up hobbies and projects and not follow through, but building model planes is something that I plan on sticking with for a while.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Looks pretty doggone good for a first model. Windows seem to be a bugaboo for all modelers, it's one of the easiest things to screw up because any mistake at all is super visible.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The Locator posted:

It's 1/32 scale, those parts are all *huge* man!


I emailed the contact for the competition, since for whatever reason that IPMS group doesn't have any of their contact information on their website. We'll see. I know that they didn't have any sort of feedback on the sheets, as I saw a couple of them and they were just marked with 1st/2nd/3rd, maybe with the ones they weeded out X'd out, but no comments or anything, and some of the judging teams were a bit iffy.. One of the categories turned in a sheet with 2 1st place winners and a 3rd.. They had to page for that team captain to come up and fix it before they could award that group.

Doesn't sound super organized. I hope you hear back though.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Midjack posted:

Doesn't sound super organized. I hope you hear back though.

I don't know if it was disorganized per se', I think they just had too much to do with too few people to do it. I heard from someone while I was there that this year's venue was twice the size of last year's, and they were scrambling moving stuff around and getting the venue to add more tables part way through the morning because they had so many models show up.

It's just a local IPMS group, not a regional or national group, and in many ways they had great organization, with the trophy's all sorted out, nice signs and holders for every category, and they stayed pretty much on schedule.

From what I've seen in the whopping 3 shows I've been to, getting enough volunteers to judge is a problem with all of the local shows that have a good model turnout. I really should start learning the judging side to help out at next year's show here with my local group, but it feels weird to be judging stuff in a medium that I don't even build with. Of course I'm sure the plastic dudes that get stuck judging ships feel the same way when they come across my entry.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Tig Ol Bitties posted:




I finished my first model! I had a ton of fun, built my favorite plane, and learned a lot, mainly: take the extra time to do it right the first time, decals are not that scary, try to not get glue and paint all over the windows, and holy crap, is modeling fun. Next on the list is finishing our P-61 and Do 335, then a lil' F-4 for my nephew. :dance:

I'm mostly proud because I tend to pick up hobbies and projects and not follow through, but building model planes is something that I plan on sticking with for a while.

loving baller, man! Amazing work for your first model. Can't wait to see your next piece.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Oh man, first outing with my new old compressor and a double action. I will never use air cans ever again. :swoon:

The compressor is an old black Tamiya Revo but it still pumps out the air as well as it needs to. I was initially afraid it wouldn't have enough power and sure enough it isn't nearly as powerful as a new tall can for example but the pressure is pretty much just right. There's hardly any overspray at all. Combined with the continuous flow valve the airbrush came with the nozzle doesn't get anywhere near as gunked up as it did on cans so clean up time is reduced as well.

Coming from siphon feeds on cans, to gravity feeds on cans to gravity feeds on compressor I must say the difference is worth the investment if you have the cash.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
So I just moved into a new place and had to give up my modeling desk. My space now is...basically a computer desk. Any tips for building planes in a very confined space?

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

bewbies posted:

So I just moved into a new place and had to give up my modeling desk. My space now is...basically a computer desk. Any tips for building planes in a very confined space?

That's pretty much my situation. I try to use shallow boxes to store stuff in, both paints and half-built models etc. Being able to put a lid on it and put it in a shelf helps when you have several projects running at once.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

bewbies posted:

So I just moved into a new place and had to give up my modeling desk. My space now is...basically a computer desk. Any tips for building planes in a very confined space?

Take a piece of plywood and cut it to whatever shape you have available, potentially even spanning gaps between surfaces. Glue felt to the bottom so it won't scratch what it rests on. Screw one of those self healing craft mats to it, if you like. It can be easily shoved behind a couch when not in use, and I've found this approach is an easier sell for significant others than a piece of cardboard laid on top of expensive furniture.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Blue Footed Booby posted:

Take a piece of plywood and cut it to whatever shape you have available, potentially even spanning gaps between surfaces. Glue felt to the bottom so it won't scratch what it rests on. Screw one of those self healing craft mats to it, if you like. It can be easily shoved behind a couch when not in use, and I've found this approach is an easier sell for significant others than a piece of cardboard laid on top of expensive furniture.
This is pretty ingenious and I may have to try it.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
For any not in the know, Home Depot and others sell plywood in cut down sizes, both 2'x2' and 2'x4'. They generally have MDF in those sizes as well, which might be a could bucks cheaper and will do just as well.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Arquinsiel posted:

This is pretty ingenious and I may have to try it.

:tipshat:

Antifreeze Head posted:

For any not in the know, Home Depot and others sell plywood in cut down sizes, both 2'x2' and 2'x4'. They generally have MDF in those sizes as well, which might be a could bucks cheaper and will do just as well.

A lot of types of MDF don't handle moisture well. Sealing may be necessary.

Also, reminder that dust from MDF is real bad. Wear a mask if you end up cutting it yourselves. I love you all and wish you good health. Etc.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 17:40 on May 10, 2016

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
I bought a sweet respirator and it makes me sound like Darth Vader. Worth it just for that, plus I guess it prevents my lungs from being filled with resin dust.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

OK, here's a question: I have a tank with tracks that are plastic, and you use hot water to bend them into the proper shape. I'm guessing I should do this before I prime them, paint them, or anything like that?

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Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Do you mean the entire run of the track is molded in one piece and you have to bend it into shape? I've never seen that before.

I have bent tow cables into shape, but I held the part I wanted bent over a flame for a few seconds. That probably won't work with a wide part like a track.

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