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blue squares posted:You don't understand this thread. Half of it is dedicated to insulting one another. Actually I think you'll find that this thread is for enjoying literature and hanging with cool friends  Mel Mudkiper posted:Seriously you guys I wrote up an effort post and everything I'm racing through one more book that is due at the library in the middle of next week but then I am all over it
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What are the best novels set on college campuses? I have read Secret History, Stoner, and White Noise. I own Lucky Jim and I Am Charlotte Simmons. Is Simmons good? Edit: oh and preferably featuring mostly students rather than professors blue squares fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Jun 10, 2016 00:08
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blue squares posted:What are the best novels set on college campuses? I have read Secret History and White Noise. I own Lucky Jim and I Am Charlotte Simmons. Is Simmons good? Disgrace, and probably some others by Coetzee.
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Jun 10, 2016 00:18
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blue squares posted:What are the best novels set on college campuses? I have read Secret History, Stoner, and White Noise. I own Lucky Jim and I Am Charlotte Simmons. Is Simmons good? Zuleika Dobson is a very odd and surprisingly dark satire of turn of the century Oxford, I quite like it.
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I've picked up Against the Day again and made some decent progress on it. I am definitely going to finish it god damnit, if only so I don't have to carry around this incredibly heavy book anymore. Kindle eReader whatever whatever don't care shut up
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Jun 10, 2016 00:57
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david crosby posted:You need to give us concrete examples of what you read. Because you were either reading tons of poo poo or are a huge dumbass, and It's important to kno which so that we can deal with your posts appropriately. I was reading tons of poo poo and the entire point of the original post was that Catch-22 had turned me on to literature and I was excited to read more good poo poo, but apparently I'm also a huge dumbass who can't communicate, so it's definitely both.
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Jun 10, 2016 01:02
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blue squares posted:What are the best novels set on college campuses? I have read Secret History, Stoner, and White Noise. I own Lucky Jim and I Am Charlotte Simmons. Is Simmons good? Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me The Art of Fielding
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Cloks posted:Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me Amazon posted:The hero, Gnossus Pappadopoulis
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Jun 10, 2016 01:19
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Cloks posted:Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me Yeah this book is real cool. The author, Richard Farina was Thomas Pynchon's best friend in college and died in a motorcycle accident like a week before/after (I forget) after this book was published. Pretty awesome. Cool poo poo in the book too.
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Heath posted:I've picked up Against the Day again and made some decent progress on it. I am definitely going to finish it god damnit, if only so I don't have to carry around this incredibly heavy book anymore. I love that book and even when I only get 200-400 pages into a reread, I feel like I got something out of it Good luck to you 
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GlyphGryph posted:I was reading tons of poo poo and the entire point of the original post was that Catch-22 had turned me on to literature and I was excited to read more good poo poo, but apparently I'm also a huge dumbass who can't communicate, so it's definitely both. Don't hide from us! TELL US THE BOOKS! FEED THE BEAST blue squares posted:What are the best novels set on college campuses? I have read Secret History, Stoner, and White Noise. I own Lucky Jim and I Am Charlotte Simmons. Is Simmons good? Before you read Charlotte Simmons, ask yourself: Do you really want/trust the opinion on eighteen year old men and women from a dude in his seventies? Seconding Art of Fielding, really liked that one. Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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The new Austen movie adaptation Love and Friendship is amazing; i think it might be the best Austen adaptation I've ever seen. It's the first and only adaptation I've ever seen capture just how sharp and layered Austen's language can be.
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GlyphGryph posted:I'm "hung up" on it because I enjoyed reading a book where it finally happened, that was also really good independent from that? Tell me more, I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean or how your book suggestion will help me address this terrible problem. GlyphGryph posted:I was reading tons of poo poo and the entire point of the original post was that Catch-22 had turned me on to literature and I was excited to read more good poo poo, but apparently I'm also a huge dumbass who can't communicate, so it's definitely both. Honestly dude as a serious response if you really liked Catch-22 read more Kurt Vonnegut. Pretty much anything by him will do, and you can't go too far wrong reading his entire body of work. Also Camus is good but read the Plague not the Stranger.
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GlyphGryph posted:Edit: I've clearly made a terrible mistake and wondered into the wrong neighbourhood, I'm sorry. Please ignore this post and everything that follows. Suggestion: Go to the forums profiles of the people who are being dicks and click "Add user to your Ignore List." Once that's taken care of, name some books you like and some books you don't like so we can start suggesting some cool books to you. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Honestly dude as a serious response if you really liked Catch-22 read more Kurt Vonnegut. Pretty much anything by him will do, and you can't go too far wrong reading his entire body of work. Seconding this.
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treasureplane posted:Suggestion: Go to the forums profiles of the people who are being dicks and click "Add user to your Ignore List." Once that's taken care of, name some books you like and some books you don't like so we can start suggesting some cool books to you. Ignore everyone who is a dick in the literature thread *thread becomes 1 page long*
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the thread called Quit Being a loving Child should be nicer
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treasureplane posted:Suggestion: Go to the forums profiles of the people who are being dicks and click "Add user to your Ignore List." Once that's taken care of, name some books you like and some books you don't like so we can start suggesting some cool books to you. You should actually just ignore blue squares, that mel pokemon guy, and the person that posted the 8,000 words about why the harry potter character is an anti hero.
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emdash posted:I love that book and even when I only get 200-400 pages into a reread, I feel like I got something out of it I'm kind of burned out on the second half of it and the Reef-Cyprian-Yashmeen love triangle on top of the dozen other characters having individual plots is getting exhausting to mentally sort through. That said, it's worth it for the occasional moments of weird brilliance.
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I really like Pynchon and he is a delight to read, but his books suffer from cartoon characters. It makes it hard to stay invested in the story because there are no real stakes and it seems like he makes his point early on and then just keeps making it again and again. The exception is Mason and Dixon, mostly.
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blue squares posted:I really like Pynchon and he is a delight to read, but his books suffer from cartoon characters. It makes it hard to stay invested in the story because there are no real stakes and it seems like he makes his point early on and then just keeps making it again and again. The exception is Mason and Dixon, mostly. lol wtf
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Jun 10, 2016 07:56
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Pynchon doesn't write characters that behave in a realistic way. He isn't interested in that. His characters are plot devices used to explore his ideas about fiction and conspiracies and whatnot, not to explore humanity.
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Jun 10, 2016 08:33
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Don't put anyone on ignore or flee a thread because one bonehead was rude to you imo
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At Swim-Two-Birds is genuinely brilliant and I don't know why I haven't read it before.
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The Mysteries of Pittsburgh is about college students in college. And The First Verse is good and a little creepy. It is also about college students. Neither prominently feature professors.
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J_RBG posted:At Swim-Two-Birds is genuinely brilliant and I don't know why I haven't read it before. It's insanely good and should probably be required reading for posting in this thread.
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Well-known, alas, is the case of the poor German who was very fond of three and who made each aspect of his life a thing of triads. He went home one evening and drank three cups of tea with three lumps of sugar in each cup, cut his jugular with a razor three times and scrawled with a dying hand on a picture of his wife good-bye, good-bye, good-bye. is actually the best ending of any book ever written probably except maybe Ferdydurke
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That reminds me is the Dalkey Archive worth a read? People only ever seem to talk about At Swim-Two-Birds and Third Policeman
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CestMoi posted:It's insanely good and should probably be required reading for posting in this thread. I've only read Third Policeman which I liked but I also felt I didn't do it justice because I was on vacation and getting drunk and reading on the beach a lot (next time I am drunk on the beach reading I'm gonna reread Mr. Palomar especially the part where he gets embarrassed staring at beach boobies)
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blue squares posted:the thread called Quit Being a loving Child should be nicer It's not called that, it's called Quit loving a Child so you know we're all dicks.
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Guy A. Person posted:I've only read Third Policeman which I liked but I also felt I didn't do it justice because I was on vacation and getting drunk and reading on the beach a lot Third Policeman isn't as good, but that's only because At Swim-Two-Birds is close to perfect.
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blue squares posted:Pynchon doesn't write characters that behave in a realistic way. He isn't interested in that. His characters are plot devices used to explore his ideas about fiction and conspiracies and whatnot, not to explore humanity. oh, this is part of this continuing wrongness: blue squares posted:A good story is a lot more important than a deep examination of what it means to be human rather than a de novo wrongness, sorry. i will respect your self-consistency on this matter. CestMoi posted:That reminds me is the Dalkey Archive worth a read? People only ever seem to talk about At Swim-Two-Birds and Third Policeman The Dalkey Archive has some good bits iirc (it's been a while), but there are also some jokes/sections reused from Third Policeman. It's certainly not as good as At Swim-Two-Birds.
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How is my assessment of Pynchon's characters wrong? In which of his works besides Mason and Dixon does he have characters that resemble real people? I still like Pynchon a lot, but I don't think he tries to write real people.
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i mean, yes, right, there's not really a lot of meat on most of his protagonists generally (like, could you pick oedipa maas out of a crowd?), but i think there is a lot of strong characterization in pynchon. like, the segment in GR with pökler and the annual visits to meet his daughter i think works as a character piece just as much as it works as a piece about paranoia and denial and so on. my main objection is to this: blue squares posted:It makes it hard to stay invested in the story because there are no real stakes and it seems like he makes his point early on and then just keeps making it again and again. which a) does not seem to follow from complaints of thin/cartoon/oversized characterization (of which pynchon has been guilty of all three, i will grant you: q.v. prairie/takeshi/dl respectively from vineland) and b) i have heard pynchon accused of being many things, but conceptually narrow in scope is not one of them.
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Tree Goat posted:which a) does not seem to follow from complaints of thin/cartoon/oversized characterization (of which pynchon has been guilty of all three, i will grant you: q.v. prairie/takeshi/dl respectively from vineland) Tree Goat posted:and b) i have heard pynchon accused of being many things, but conceptually narrow in scope is not one of them. You're right. That was a dumb comment and I take it back
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as an apology for sincerely posting about pynchon, here'sPynchon, Bleeding Edge, pg. 69 no less posted:
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blue squares posted:Pynchon doesn't write characters that behave in a realistic way. He isn't interested in that. His characters are plot devices used to explore his ideas about fiction and conspiracies and whatnot, not to explore humanity. Yeah, I was going to say this to you but it's obvious you already knew it. I think if Pynchon could ever be convinced to speak about his writing (or, you know, anything at all), he would evince very interesting ideas about the purpose and methods of characterization.
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mdemone posted:Yeah, I was going to say this to you but it's obvious you already knew it. I think if Pynchon could ever be convinced to speak about his writing (or, you know, anything at all), he would evince very interesting ideas about the purpose and methods of characterization. The closest you'll get is the preamble to Slow Learner. He basically tears apart everything he wrote. "It's all poo poo, and here's why it's poo poo, but read it anyway so you can learn from my mistakes."
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Anyone here read/see any of Brecht's plays? I just picked up The Caucasian Chalk Circle since I've heard so much about his work in my theatre classes, but I haven't started reading it yet.
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Tree Goat posted:as an apology for sincerely posting about pynchon, here's Leet gamer culture. Makes me want to not read any Pynchon. the_homemaster fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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