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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum? This poll is closed. |
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| Remain - Keep Britane Strong! |
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328 | 15.40% |
| Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! |
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115 | 5.40% |
| Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy |
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506 | 23.76% |
| Leave - But only because the EU is terrible |
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157 | 7.37% |
| Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea |
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61 | 2.86% |
| I'm not going to vote |
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19 | 0.89% |
| I'm not allowed to vote |
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411 | 19.30% |
| Pissflaps |
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533 | 25.02% |
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:"But how could have he been inspired to do this?" Hey, now. He's done a terrible thing but accusing him of reading the Daily Express is a slander too far. He might have merely been a Nazi.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:04
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Rakosi posted:Why is it ever bad to politicize anything considering almost everything is political in some way. Also "the personal is political" is antithetical to everything that the right believes. Except when it helps them sell newspapers via spurious anecdotes.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:04
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Rakosi posted:Why is it ever bad to politicize anything considering almost everything is political in some way. No no no no, whoever's saying something like this is completely unbiased and rational. It's other people who are political and thus wrong, you see.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:04
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Sure, the papers may have constantly implied there was a job stealing Syrian gypsy rapist on every street waiting for a free benefits mansion, but have you considered he was probably just mental and would have thought these things anyway? I'm Rupert Murdoch.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:12
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BSE are you going to come back, you're a good lad and I'm sorry the press really is as bad as we say
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Jun 18, 2016 12:15
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:probably because the public perception of politics is synonymous with sleaze, grease, filth and bullshit. again, so is everything.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:18
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It's too much relying on experts doing measured analysis with statistics and reports and probabilities. If we all just listened to our gut then there's be less of this spur of the moment violence. (I like the new thread title.)
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Jun 18, 2016 12:18
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For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone. It's often meant we have stood neutral between different values. And that's helped foster a narrative of extremism and grievance. This Government will conclusively turn the page on this failed approach - can we now please start applying this to extreme right groups like the national press?
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Jun 18, 2016 12:21
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Guavanaut posted:It's too much relying on experts doing measured analysis with statistics and reports and probabilities. If we all just listened to our gut then there's be less of this spur of the moment violence. Somehow Still The Prime Minister, 18 April 2011 posted:First, let me tell you how I see it.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:24
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Jesus, he really said that?
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Jun 18, 2016 12:27
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For being a Murdoch rag the Times has done well on the front page today. Not only have they come out for Remain but they've used the T word in relation to Mair.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:29
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Renaissance Robot posted:Jesus, he really said that? As part of a campaign that was literally about what the best way was to count preferences and proportions, yes Julio Cruz posted:they've used the T word in relation to Mair. calling him a Tory is a bit far
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Jun 18, 2016 12:30
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Guavanaut posted:Well, they might not be advocating violence. Justice doesn't belong at the end of a rope.  She wasn't heavy enough.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:38
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louise mensch is loving scum but this is hardly news
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Jun 18, 2016 12:41
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Renaissance Robot posted:Jesus, he really said that? Sure, why not? He understands how the system works - even the Conservative leadership elections are sort of along the same lines. But he knew the average person didn't get how it worked, and his anti-AV campaign was about spreading confusion and convincing people it was too complicated to understand. A statement like that is just laying the ground work and encouraging people to vote out of ignorance
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Jun 18, 2016 12:44
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The BBC hosed up the timing of this scroll a bit
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Jun 18, 2016 12:46
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It says a lot about her that when I went to her Twitter, she is extremely anti-Trump. Though I'm totally expecting someone to tell me it's because of some actually sane thing he said.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:46
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baka kaba posted:Sure, why not? He understands how the system works - even the Conservative leadership elections are sort of along the same lines. But he knew the average person didn't get how it worked, and his anti-AV campaign was about spreading confusion and convincing people it was too complicated to understand. A statement like that is just laying the ground work and encouraging people to vote out of ignorance I mean I understand appealing to anti-intellectualism, but coming right out with "I think it's better to run a country on gut feeling than evidence" is kinda... Well, immaterial I guess. He was already a bastard for countless other reasons.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:49
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massive spider posted:The BBC hosed up the timing of this scroll a bit Another Briton radicalised by ISS
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Jun 18, 2016 12:49
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I will always burn with white-hot fury over the AV referendum. When I went to Louse Munch's twitter it was all "THE BBC ARE RAPISTS AND TRAITORS and they lied about the political motivations of Mr. Deathtotraitors K. Freedomforbritain, Esq"
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Jun 18, 2016 12:54
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Renaissance Robot posted:I mean I understand appealing to anti-intellectualism, but coming right out with "I think it's better to run a country on gut feeling than evidence" is kinda... Yeah but he doesn't really think that (well, y'know) and I don't think anyone would take it at face value. But for all the people unsure about what this 'alternative vote' thing is, and all the people who'll be confused by the misleading/lying NO ads, it's appealing to their egos and giving them permission to dismiss it out of hand. Just a variation on the 'I'm a normal guy like you, you should do what I say' shtick
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Jun 18, 2016 12:57
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Death to Nazis, IMO
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Jun 18, 2016 12:58
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My favourite Louise Mensch moment was when she decided marrying a secular Jew meant she was an expert on Judaism and antisemitism, then proceeded to call the father of modern Zionism an antisemite. Closely followed by the time she tweeted proof that Corbyn supporters were searching for "Liz Kendall Jew" only for it to turn out to be a screenshot of her own searches.
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Jun 18, 2016 12:59
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Baron Corbyn posted:Another Briton radicalised by ISS 
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Jun 18, 2016 13:02
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Barry Foster posted:Death to Nazis, IMO We should sit down with them and talk out our problems. Perhaps it is you who is the real fascist?
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Jun 18, 2016 13:16
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Baron Corbyn posted:It says a lot about her that when I went to her Twitter, she is extremely anti-Trump. Though I'm totally expecting someone to tell me it's because of some actually sane thing he said. He's actually might deliver on his massively racist platform rather than just using it to advance his own political career. Also Hilary is an established neoliberal. Status Quo over everything.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:16
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Barry Foster posted:Death to Nazis, IMO This but unironically
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Jun 18, 2016 13:17
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Oberleutnant posted:This but unironically I wasn't being ironic
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Jun 18, 2016 13:18
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Noxville posted:We should sit down with them and talk out our problems. Perhaps it is you who is the real fascist? Nope, this is the time when we shut down the fascists. And if they don't go peaceably, they go the hard way.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:22
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I'm going to put forward the apparently controversial opinion that we shouldn't kill or wish death upon anyone based on their beliefs.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:23
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CottonWolf posted:I'm going to put forward the apparently controversial opinion that we shouldn't kill or wish death upon anyone based on their beliefs. gently caress off, liberal
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Jun 18, 2016 13:24
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Barry Foster posted:I wasn't being ironic This but unironically
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Jun 18, 2016 13:25
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CottonWolf posted:I'm going to put forward the apparently controversial opinion that we shouldn't kill or wish death upon anyone based on their beliefs. Fascists would see you at the end of a rope.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:30
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Oberleutnant posted:gently caress off, liberal This but unironically
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Jun 18, 2016 13:30
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CottonWolf posted:I'm going to put forward the apparently controversial opinion that we shouldn't kill or wish death upon anyone based on their beliefs. hmm yes go on *pulls lever that should open a trapdoor under your feet*
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Jun 18, 2016 13:31
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This but ironically
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Jun 18, 2016 13:34
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CottonWolf posted:I'm going to put forward the apparently controversial opinion that we shouldn't kill or wish death upon anyone based on their beliefs. This but ironically e: drat it
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Jun 18, 2016 13:34
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The sentence below, but not ironically The sentence above, but ironically
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Jun 18, 2016 13:36
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Oberleutnant posted:This but unironically Put them in camps run by gay Jewish communists.
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Jun 18, 2016 13:38
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Hahaha. Wow. I stand by that 100%. Nazi's a terrible people who we should shun, but going beyond that is more effort than they deserve having spent on them. Obviously arrest them when they break the law, but beyond that leave them to their petty hate.
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