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Can someone define "virtue signalling", I've seen it sporadically among alt-righty types and it's clearly some kind of formal jargon.
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Jul 17, 2016 23:56
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Periodiko posted:Can someone define "virtue signalling", I've seen it sporadically among alt-righty types and it's clearly some kind of formal jargon. "You only pretend to care about the poor/women/minorities/whatever so that people will think you're a good person." That's what it means. It can more easily be translated as "I'm a shithead who is trying to look down on you for having ethics or empathy." when you see it used.
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Jul 17, 2016 23:58
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Periodiko posted:Can someone define "virtue signalling", I've seen it sporadically among alt-righty types and it's clearly some kind of formal jargon. Misanthropes and bitter angry men believe that no rational person could ever hold views other than their own, therefore when people state things such as "we should respect trans people" or "diversity is good for society" they're clearly just saying it so that they look like Good People and not because they actually believe it.
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Jul 17, 2016 23:59
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Night10194 posted:"You only pretend to care about the poor/women/minorities/whatever so that people will think you're a good person." I like to segue into telling them that they are just trying to virtue signal as rational people so they don't have to evaluate their gut feelings. 
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Jul 18, 2016 00:02
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So it basically means "an expression of principle by a liberal". They invented a special term for that. I see.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:03
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beatlegs posted:So it basically means "an expression of principle by a liberal". They invented a special term for that. I see. Honestly, it more means 'An expression of principle at all'.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:14
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Virtue signalling seems to be the new "white knight" thing, for everything that isn't women.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:16
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Sir Tonk posted:
Who the gently caress is this douchebag lol http://nycmovieguru.com/july15th16.html#hillarysamerica  Edit: lol again http://nycmovieguru.com/april1st16.html#vaxxed Aesop Poprock fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 00:18
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Periodiko posted:Can someone define "virtue signalling", I've seen it sporadically among alt-righty types and it's clearly some kind of formal jargon. "everyone is as awful of a person as I am therefore any time some is nice they have an ulterior motive"
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Jul 18, 2016 00:25
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Goatman Sacks posted:"everyone is as awful of a person as I am therefore any time some is nice they have an ulterior motive" That's honestly the best description of it I've ever read, and that's probably 100% what's happening there. They can't imagine taking up a cause for something that doesn't directly benefit or please them
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Jul 18, 2016 00:28
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Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama?
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Jul 18, 2016 00:28
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? I think it might get to that point if it hasn't already reached it yeah. Also lol at the virtue signalling thing, that's some loving AAA-Grade projection right there.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:36
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Aesop Poprock posted:That's honestly the best description of it I've ever read, and that's probably 100% what's happening there. They can't imagine taking up a cause for something that doesn't directly benefit or please them I'd always read it as "facebook activism," i.e., people who just say poo poo but don't do anything, but yeah, considering it's alt-right this makes sense.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:37
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? No. INSERT DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATE will always be the worst reptilian America-stealer the world has ever seen and if INSERT DEMOCRATIC PARTY CANDIDATE isn't stopped then we might as well get used to being castrated Muslim slaves.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:40
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Night10194 posted:"You only pretend to care about the poor/women/minorities/whatever so that people will think you're a good person." My sole interpretation of it is " say extreme/ poo poo so certain people will like me and applaud me and follow me" its basicaly dog whistling but louder. its what people like milo/walsh/crowder/trump do all the time, believing in it(or not) doesnt factor in with me.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:41
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? Hillary is unique in Republican mythos, more than Generic Democrat.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:41
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? Not sure about more, probably as much though
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Jul 18, 2016 00:44
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Hbomberguy has a pretty concise description of how virtue signaling arose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAmM872874A
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Jul 18, 2016 00:44
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? Oh yeah. She's literally their boogeyman. They've been telling stories about her around the campire for 20 years. And the authoritarian imagination places white over black, but their bigger thing is that women are inferior to and subservient to men. She's almost a cosmic threat to their worldview.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:45
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Hbomberguy has a pretty concise description of how virtue signaling arose We didn't run that guy out of these forums only to have his dipshit videos posted here lol
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Jul 18, 2016 00:47
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icantfindaname posted:We didn't run that guy out of these forums only to have his dipshit videos posted here lol Pfft, what?
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Jul 18, 2016 00:48
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RareAcumen posted:Pfft, what? Does he still post here? All I know is he posted here a while ago and was generally terrible and I haven't seem him around in a while. He got into some really heated arguments in GBS about how Kill la Kill is a sterling example of feminist media
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Jul 18, 2016 00:56
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This article is the original source supposedly: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/hating-the-daily-mail-is-a-substitute-for-doing-good/ For what it's worth, the author isn't alt-right, but is kind of a grumpy neo-liberal turd (is this leftist virtue signalling?). I did a little google research and he's literally a banker turned journalist whose main cause appears to be opposing the British welfare state. And while "virtue signalling" is certainly a thing, it's hard not to read this kind of stuff as whining: quote:Comedians make use of virtue signalling of the vituperative kind. With the right audience they can get laughs scorning the usual suspects: Ukip, the Daily Mail, Eton, bankers and the rest. The audience enjoys the caricaturing of all of these, sneering at them and, in the process, joining together as a congregation of the righteously contemptuous. What a delight to display your virtue, feel confirmed in your views, enjoy a sense of community, let off some anger and have a laugh all at the same time! It is so easy, too! I mean, how dare they? He has a degree, for chrissake. That's a cherry-picked section, and the author does have some scattered points, but he seems like a right-wing elitist rear end in a top hat generally that's upset at all the peasants having crude, emotional political views rather than his well-educated intellectual detachment. There's also a pretty heavy dose of the old right-wing argument that social programs are actually a substitute for charity and good acts: quote:No one actually has to do anything. Virtue comes from mere words or even from silently held beliefs. There was a time in the distant past when people thought you could only be virtuous by doing things: by helping the blind man across the road; looking after your elderly parents instead of dumping them in a home; staying in a not-wholly-perfect marriage for the sake of the children. These things involve effort and self-sacrifice. That sounds hard! Much more convenient to achieve virtue by expressing hatred of those who think the health service could be improved by introducing competition. Hard not to read it in the context of the author's conservatism. A lot of "there was a time"-ism. Periodiko fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 00:58
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icantfindaname posted:Does he still post here? All I know is he posted here a while ago and was generally terrible and I haven't seem him around in a while. He got into some really heated arguments in GBS about how Kill la Kill is a sterling example of feminist media Ohhh, that's why. Yeah, a lotta people got really dumb about that show.
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Jul 18, 2016 00:58
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Hbomberguy has a pretty concise description of how virtue signaling arose lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62eCT40iLNk this is his best video.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:02
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Geostomp posted:I really hope that whoever makes these shirts takes a tumble into the machinery. Why do you hate bangladeshi children?
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Jul 18, 2016 01:02
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icantfindaname posted:We didn't run that guy out of these forums only to have his dipshit videos posted here lol Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'd always read it as "facebook activism," i.e., people who just say poo poo but don't do anything
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Jul 18, 2016 01:05
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icantfindaname posted:We didn't run that guy out of these forums only to have his dipshit videos posted here lol We ran him out? Dang, and I liked his letsplay of... ...something. Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl? Edit: Lone Badger, that was my first thought.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:06
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Cardboard Box A posted:Go away Lol you're talking
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Jul 18, 2016 01:17
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Aesop Poprock posted:Who the gently caress is this douchebag lol Reading his reviews for documentaries is strange because he seems to straight up believe everything
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Jul 18, 2016 01:17
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https://twitter.com/alwaysthinkhow/status/754524875365163012 He WAS also a pilot https://twitter.com/united/status/754774949664030720
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Jul 18, 2016 01:19
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do republicans hate Hillary more than Obama? Probably Clinton. They despise Obama for being black and relatively successful despite their best efforts, but the hatred for the Clintons "stealing" the elections they assumed they were entitled to is just seething.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:27
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hbomb still posts and still does LP, lol if you think the GBS cesspool matters
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Jul 18, 2016 01:37
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Dapper_Swindler posted:lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62eCT40iLNk Yeah that one's pretty good, but I'm a way bigger fan of the Cultural Marxism one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYQo6LI3Y7c I don't care if he has arguably bad opinions about anime, hbomberguy is amazing. McGlockenshire fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Jul 18, 2016 |
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Jul 18, 2016 01:38
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Jul 18, 2016 01:43
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We all have our flaws. For example, I know more about memes than I do politics.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:44
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/alwaysthinkhow/status/754524875365163012 Ugh, my home state. Way to go genius.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:50
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https://twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/754808814864441345
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Jul 18, 2016 01:58
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RareAcumen posted:I'm sure you don't like talking about this stuff because it gets the blood pressure rising but please continue to do so! It's always very interesting to read! Oh thanks! I don't think I'd be half as interested in politics if it wasn't for my involvement in education. Anyway it's actually cathartic as few of my friends are interested at all. Geostomp posted:Given the fact that protests only work if people pay attention and they get their message out, I can say that the media plays a massive role. They can easily poison a movement if they spread the right narrative early enough that it replaces the truth in the public eye. That is getting more difficult these days to hammer in a coherent narrative since any fool with a cellphone can capture the event and spread it faster than the news, but for people who get their information from RWM, it's still piss easy to manipulate them into raging at whatever target they want. I think that was part of what really hurt OWS. Then again, Caesar Chavez park was full of "protesters" camping out so its not like the media spin was totally untrue. It's just that my feeling at the time was that the homeless, mentally ill and drug abusers are a relevant example of how our population is going unserved.
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I give him 20 pages until he drops it and never looks at it again, but puts it on his "books I've read and therefore legitimize my status as a public intellectual" list anyway.
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