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Hulkamatt on twitter said to make a new one of these threads. Put your spoilers here but don't put them behind spoiler tags because that's the rules. No company is safe from their results being posted here, so browse at your own peril of getting wrestling matches like pentagon jr. being the Lucha underground champion ruined for you. Rumors & betting lines are good too because a lot of times they turn out to be legitimate.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:35 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:23 |
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thank you friend. it's a new era where smackdown is no longer going to have spoilers.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:37 |
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lol
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:39 |
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HulkaMatt posted:thank you friend. The Holidays and when they tour overseas
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:39 |
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Bayley
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:40 |
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Chris James 2 posted:Bayley She's in a better place
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:40 |
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Sexy Star becomes Lucha Underground Champion during Aztec Warfare 3
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:42 |
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Responding to a thing from the last thread:Benne posted:They're already paying Nakamura main roster money and sticking him in NXT longterm is a comical waste of his talents. There is an argument to be made that with the oncoming death of television via the internet that NXT is just as valuable a place for him as Raw, since he will be promoted on the television shows anyway. He will still be on the best show of the three and proceed to have the best matches. The Wrestlemania weekend NXT show was roughly ten orders of magnitude better than Wrestlemania. If Nakamura is making main roster money, then gently caress it, who gives a poo poo?
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:43 |
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Nakamura was told Sunday he wasn't being called up. He also felt he needed more time in NXT
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:49 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Responding to a thing from the last thread: If you're making main roster money without having to be on the road 300 days a year, that sounds like a pretty loving sweet deal.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:52 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Responding to a thing from the last thread: He's also (apparently, based on stuff I've read here) selling a fuckton of merchandise despite "merely" being in NXT, so while there's a case to be made that the WWE could theoretically turn him into an über-draw with a move up, I'd assume they're already pretty happy with what he's bringing in.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 04:53 |
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Do people in NXT get a cut of their merch?
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:10 |
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Keeping Nakamura in NXT as Champion is the smartest possible thing for them to do, and I'm loving shocked that anyone believes otherwise. He can anchor that brand for 2 years basically alone if necessary, and as long as he's not getting screwed on either money OR merch, which all accounts say he's not, he's better off doing that than risking the pitfalls at the top of the mountain. I don't think I need to list all the reasons why anyone should be skeptical of Nakamura being properly pushed outside of NXT. Yes, in theory he could sell more T-shirts if he's pushed like Cena on Raw than he is being pushed like Cena in NXT, but there's a heck of a lot of risk with that reward when he could be the next idling Upper Midcarder like Sami Zayn instead. That being said, as soon as he drops the belt Samoa Joe should be on Smackdown (or Raw, but realistically Smackdown needs him more esp. after the draft). And Austin Aries and Hideo Itami should also be called up post-haste after feuding with and falling to Nakamura. If all three of those guys aren't on the main rosters in 4-6 months it's a huge ball-dropping on WWE's part. Clear those three out and give their slots to Bobby ROOOOOOOO, No Way Jose and maybe PERFECT 10 if the reports that they're pumping the brakes on Almas are true.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:19 |
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Prince Puma is really a Mayan.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:21 |
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They should just give Almas his mask back and put him in the suit, it's a million times better than the Latino American Males getup he has now.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:35 |
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MassRafTer posted:Prince Puma is really a Mayan. Reported for racism
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 05:39 |
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Sanguinia posted:Keeping Nakamura in NXT as Champion is the smartest possible thing for them to do, and I'm loving shocked that anyone believes otherwise. He can anchor that brand for 2 years basically alone if necessary, and as long as he's not getting screwed on either money OR merch, which all accounts say he's not, he's better off doing that than risking the pitfalls at the top of the mountain. I don't think I need to list all the reasons why anyone should be skeptical of Nakamura being properly pushed outside of NXT. Yes, in theory he could sell more T-shirts if he's pushed like Cena on Raw than he is being pushed like Cena in NXT, but there's a heck of a lot of risk with that reward when he could be the next idling Upper Midcarder like Sami Zayn instead. Nakamura is getting up there in age and his body is not in great shape. I doubt the guy left NJPW to not be on the biggest stage possible and I doubt WWE signed him for the kind of money it would take to get him to come over to do that either. He needs to be in front of as many people as possible as soon as possible because the product needs as much new as it can get. Meanwhile a guy like Itami should probably be in NXT a bit longer because he wasn't making the transition especially well.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 06:07 |
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MassRafTer posted:Nakamura is getting up there in age and his body is not in great shape. I doubt the guy left NJPW to not be on the biggest stage possible and I doubt WWE signed him for the kind of money it would take to get him to come over to do that either. He needs to be in front of as many people as possible as soon as possible because the product needs as much new as it can get. Meanwhile a guy like Itami should probably be in NXT a bit longer because he wasn't making the transition especially well. What about Joe?
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 06:10 |
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Chris James 2 posted:What about Joe? Joe originally signed a contract they would let him do NXT and indies so I don't have as much of a problem with keeping him down another six months or so.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 06:26 |
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Chris James 2 posted:What about Joe? He's fat.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 06:51 |
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Vince will push Joe to the moon for about a month before somebody tells him that he's actually not part of the Anoa'i family
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 06:54 |
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I was really surprised that they put Balor out with the draft. I would have thought that they would have done something separate to debut him and make him special. One would think that is why Bayley, Nakamura, etc. are not called up yet because they want them all to make a splash. I am really surprised by the Smackdown roster. It is EXTREMELY light and with Cena and presumably Orton moving to a more part time schedule there isn't much there at both the top and middle of the card. I am really worried what that show is going to look like come the winter since there isn't much meat on the bone with those perspective feuds. As was feared Raw still looks like the "A" show where Smackdown is still mostly forgettable even with the split PPVs. I can't wait to hear what the thought process was behind this in the coming days.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 07:12 |
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MassRafTer posted:Nakamura is getting up there in age and his body is not in great shape. I doubt the guy left NJPW to not be on the biggest stage possible and I doubt WWE signed him for the kind of money it would take to get him to come over to do that either. He needs to be in front of as many people as possible as soon as possible because the product needs as much new as it can get. Meanwhile a guy like Itami should probably be in NXT a bit longer because he wasn't making the transition especially well. Nakamura's age and ever-shrinking upside is the most reasonable argument for bringing him up immediately, I'm certainly willing to admit that. And of course what Nakamura wants is a factor, if he wants to roll the bones on the Main Roster and risk the damage a failed push or a long-term trip through the Midcard Lost Woods because (insert anything from race to funny accent to Vince's whimsical fancies here) could do to his value because he's hungry for those stadium crowds, I'd not be the one to tell him otherwise. I'm just saying that the way the stars are aligned right now, his situation is stable, lucrative and not a big strain on his health, all of which could disappear in a split second once he moves up. And that's not even discussing NXT's part of the equation, and the health of that brand does clearly matter to people in WWE even if its never going to be a money making part of the company.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 07:26 |
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Spoilers for NXT NXT sucks.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 07:56 |
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yea ok posted:Hulkamatt on twitter said to make a new one of these threads. Put your spoilers here but don't put them behind spoiler tags because that's the rules. No company is safe from their results being posted here, so browse at your own peril of getting wrestling matches like pentagon jr. being the Lucha underground champion ruined for you. Rumors & betting lines are good too because a lot of times they turn out to be legitimate. But Pentagon Jr isn't LU champion. Pentagon Dark is.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 07:59 |
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RacistGuidingLight posted:Spoilers for NXT lets put a positive spin on this since negativity is a bad thing 'nxt has the potential to be better than it currently is, and hopefully they take steps to actuate that potential'
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 08:29 |
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Jubs posted:Do people in NXT get a cut of their merch? Yep
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 10:29 |
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So are they actually going to try and push Strowman in singles?
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 11:23 |
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Benne posted:Vince will push Joe to the moon And then Joe will become the moon
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 15:06 |
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Sticky Nate posted:Sexy Star becomes Lucha Underground Champion during Aztec Warfare 3
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 16:04 |
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MotU posted:lets put a positive spin on this since negativity is a bad thing 'NXT still looks better than SD'
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 16:25 |
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Sticky Nate posted:Sexy Star becomes Lucha Underground Champion during Aztec Warfare 3 Matanza is pinned for the first time by Rey Mysterio. Pentagon Jr is taken out by three superior wrestlers.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 17:18 |
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Sanguinia posted:Keeping Nakamura in NXT as Champion is the smartest possible thing for them to do, and I'm loving shocked that anyone believes otherwise. He can anchor that brand for 2 years basically alone if necessary, and as long as he's not getting screwed on either money OR merch, which all accounts say he's not, he's better off doing that than risking the pitfalls at the top of the mountain. I don't think I need to list all the reasons why anyone should be skeptical of Nakamura being properly pushed outside of NXT. Yes, in theory he could sell more T-shirts if he's pushed like Cena on Raw than he is being pushed like Cena in NXT, but there's a heck of a lot of risk with that reward when he could be the next idling Upper Midcarder like Sami Zayn instead. If anything Itami may be the guy built to dethrone Nakamura, but I still think Nakamura would also be the guy to elevate Tommy End to the NXT title picture/NXT Final Boss of 2017 role if he impresses as much as I think he will.
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# ? Jul 20, 2016 23:15 |
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There needs to be another half hour or hour to NXT each week. Each guy gets like...one televised match a month. I feel like nobody does anything in between Takeovers. Except for Nakamura/Finn and Joe/Sami
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# ? Jul 21, 2016 11:11 |
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nobody would do anything in an extra half hour they would just do more nothing
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# ? Jul 21, 2016 15:57 |
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Does the current real life Lucha underground champion get to carry the belt with them to other Indy's, or would it be the champ as seen on TV at the time? Or do they not get to physically bring the belt with them?
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 14:06 |
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PWInsider:quote:For those of you who wrote us questioning why Bayley wasn't drafted this past Tuesday to the main WWE roster, you will likely have your answer tonight.
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 15:26 |
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rovert posted:PWInsider: So this probably means Layla
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 15:29 |
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I hope it's Nikki Bella
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 15:31 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:23 |
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Bayley didn't wrestle at the local NXT shows this weekend and didn't appear at the show last night. But PWInsider did get worked by the fan made fan signs at the WWE Draft show.
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# ? Jul 24, 2016 15:31 |