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Bubba Smith posted:This is from the perspective of a guy who has only been rolling for 3 months, but I can think of two guys who I do not want to roll with again because they are dicks. Not friendly to talk to and if I had to guess are taking a lot of their life frustrations out in the gym. They stand out so much because everybody else in the gym is cool as hell. Oh sure, I'm not losing any sleep on it, but I think it's interesting to get others perspective on the subject.
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Odddzy posted:Do most people here have one person or more they mostly refuse to roll with for reasons other than fear of getting injured? At this point there's a guy I've decided isn't worth it to roll with because I've figured we probably won't ever get along. Do these weird beefs sometimes eventually get settled for others here? I'm sure they do but it's been going on for the better part of a year and i'm curious to hear the stories of others.
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Thoguh posted:It makes me appreciate why everyone else does modified double elimination. That was a bunch of extra and confusing matches at the end of the day.
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After last night there's a white belt I won't roll with. We were doing positional sparring, where one person goes into turtle and then you roll from there. I've been doing Judo for a long time at a pretty newaza heavy school, and we work turtle stuff a lot. The dude got frustrated after a half-assed attempt at opening me up and just picked my head up, banged it into the floor and walked off the mat.
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lemonslol posted:After last night there's a white belt I won't roll with. We were doing positional sparring, where one person goes into turtle and then you roll from there. I've been doing Judo for a long time at a pretty newaza heavy school, and we work turtle stuff a lot. The dude got frustrated after a half-assed attempt at opening me up and just picked my head up, banged it into the floor and walked off the mat. lol, gently caress that dude.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:17
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I'm real glad I don't train on top of an ancient Indian burial ground that like, traps the souls and temperaments of children inside the bodies of adults and I feel for all of you.
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Dan Didio posted:I'm real glad I don't train on top of an ancient Indian burial ground that like, traps the souls and temperaments of children inside the bodies of adults and I feel for all of you. I train with a bunch of guys who are a lot younger and fitter than me but are all pretty chill and respectful  That dude who slammed someone's head against the mat would have been kicked the gently caress out of every martial arts class I've ever done and probably had a come-to-jesus with the head coach.
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Memento posted:I train with a bunch of guys who are a lot younger and fitter than me but are all pretty chill and respectful Yeah, we have people of all ages, backgrounds, size, etc. at our gym and we've never had any problems in the time that I've been there. We have the odd moment where two guys will spar and go too hard and heavy and get lost in it a bit, but that happens, and it's always cool afterwards and we always break it up if it gets out of hand. I can't imagine what the response would be if someone was drilling technique, or just rolling on the mats and decided to try and injure someone out of frustration. Blows my mind.
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Odddzy posted:Do most people here have one person or more they mostly refuse to roll with for reasons other than fear of getting injured? I had one that I'd generally avoid because he was such a horrible combination of spaz and crybaby that he'd end spending half the roll whining about some moronically self inflicted wound. He's gone now though, as you might imagine. Kekekela fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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there's been a few guys with whom i got locked into a 'moment' and we went hard out trying our best but never anything actually vicious and we always returned to 'learning' stages in the subsequent encounters. i'm with DD, actual in-gym violence is not a concept i'm familiar with. i get the feeling my coach would make them not welcome.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:36
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Siivola posted:Out of curiousity, how's the modified double elimination done? I find vanilla double pretty fair and simple to understand since you're not out until you've got two losses and the last one standing wins. The overwhelmingly most common version of modified double elimination is to have a winners bracket that goes all the way to the finals, and whoever wins that brackets 1st, whoever loses in the final match gets 2nd. And anyone who loses is dropped in to a losers bracket (at progressively later rounds, so the winners of each round of the losers bracket alternate between facing other people who are going through that bracket and people who have dropped down from the winners bracket after a loss) and the winner of that bracket gets 3rd. Going from the winners bracket to the losers bracket is purely a one way street. The benefit of this type of bracket is that you have a set finals match and then you're done. At a lot of postseason high school wrestling events that are tiered (as in you have to place in the top 2 at districts, then the top 2 at sectionals to qualify for the state tournament) you'll see a "true 2nd" variation where there can be 1 extra match after the finals for 2nd place if the guy who lost in the finals and the guy who won the losers bracket haven't faced each other. The goal there is to make sure you're still finding the 2nd best wrestler even if they happened to run in to the champion before the finals.
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There are a couple blue belts at my gym who will be like "Let's go light..." before diving into arm bars at like full spaz speed.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:23
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The only guys I avoid are the spaz white belts. I still roll with them if there is nobody else. Actually drilling with them is worse because they are too spaz to go through subs slowly and so every time I have to tap as fast as possible or they will rip my arm off or whatever.
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Thoguh posted:The overwhelmingly most common version of modified double elimination is to have a winners bracket that goes all the way to the finals, and whoever wins that brackets 1st, whoever loses in the final match gets 2nd. And anyone who loses is dropped in to a losers bracket (at progressively later rounds, so the winners of each round of the losers bracket alternate between facing other people who are going through that bracket and people who have dropped down from the winners bracket after a loss) and the winner of that bracket gets 3rd. Going from the winners bracket to the losers bracket is purely a one way street. The benefit of this type of bracket is that you have a set finals match and then you're done.
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Anyone ever use a grappling dummy? I'm trying to get a deal on a used one from a guy who seems to have quit bjj. Will it be as useful as I imagine for practicing things like spinning for armbars and drilling leg positions?
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CommonShore posted:Anyone ever use a grappling dummy? I'm trying to get a deal on a used one from a guy who seems to have quit bjj. Will it be as useful as I imagine for practicing things like spinning for armbars and drilling leg positions? No but they're fun to practice german suplexes on
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Aug 16, 2016 17:34
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CommonShore posted:Anyone ever use a grappling dummy? I'm trying to get a deal on a used one from a guy who seems to have quit bjj. Will it be as useful as I imagine for practicing things like spinning for armbars and drilling leg positions? they are useful as light free weights that you can toss around and probably not much else tbh
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Aug 16, 2016 17:43
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CommonShore posted:Anyone ever use a grappling dummy? I'm trying to get a deal on a used one from a guy who seems to have quit bjj. Will it be as useful as I imagine for practicing things like spinning for armbars and drilling leg positions? I'll pull them out at the gym for drilling knee switches, etc like he's doing here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo7Ec9XOWWg but definitely not something I'd drop cash on to have around the house.
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I think they're really only useful for things human partners will not tolerate a ton of reps for. Knee on belly transitions and suplexes.
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KildarX posted:I think they're really only useful for things human partners will not tolerate a ton of reps for. Knee on belly transitions and suplexes. That's kind of what I was thinking. If I can get this thing for cheap I'll try it out and report back, but based on the feedback here I'm not going to drop the cash to get a new one. Oh also speaking of "on the cheap" my Tesla brand rashguard/spats showed up yesterday. They were way too small - I ordered M, which is what I get for every other brand, and I'd describe these as "XS". They also look a bit too thin to have worn without shorts over the spats, if I had been able to get them on. I'm actually going to contact the seller to ask about it, but unfortunately they shipped from China so I'm not optimistic.
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I've been wearing tesla all day every day since I started and they're good, but yeah you needed to order a few sizes up. I wear a 2XL (ordinarily fit in an XL or L) from them and they are still tight, but comfortable enough. They have been surprisingly durable for $10 compression clothing.
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There's one kid at my gym who I don't want to roll with because he has the dead eyes of a serial killer and he goes 100% like he's in a fight for his life every roll. And as much as I want to, I can't bring myself to not be kinda nice to my training partners. He's kinda nice off the mat though, cordial but I wouldn't want to be alone with him
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Mechafunkzilla posted:No but they're fun to practice german suplexes on This
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I'd rather roll with an rear end in a top hat who was wearing a clean gi than the nicest guy in the world whose gi smells like fermented piss. And there always seems to be 1 or 2 of those guys who think they can just stuff their gi in a bag between classes and only wash it once a week.
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Thoguh posted:I'd rather roll with an rear end in a top hat who was wearing a clean gi than the nicest guy in the world whose gi smells like fermented piss. And there always seems to be 1 or 2 of those guys who think they can just stuff their gi in a bag between classes and only wash it once a week. Oh poo poo there's this middle-aged farmer at judo whose upper lapel is always brown and feels like a dirty dish sponge. And his toenails are a horror show that makes me glad that we don't do leg locks in Judo.
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Thoguh posted:I'd rather roll with an rear end in a top hat who was wearing a clean gi than the nicest guy in the world whose gi smells like fermented piss. And there always seems to be 1 or 2 of those guys who think they can just stuff their gi in a bag between classes and only wash it once a week. Death to all those that don't wash their Gi. Just lock them in a cell with no water available and let the skin eating bacteria finish them off.
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On the topic of first grappling competitions, i first competed when i was 16 or 17 and had only been training for like 4 months. It was the under-18 National Championships and i signed up for the most advanced division because i wrestled a bit in school, and i thought I was freakin badass so I didnt want to sandbag (in retrospect of course I sucked rear end). I got there and the Advanced division only had like 7 people total so all genders, ages, and weight classes very unwisely got absorbed into one absolute division. My first match was against a 15 year old girl who i very uncomfortably outwrestled and she cried after. Then I had to fight a giant fat kid (probably 250~ lbs to my 160), i shot in and took him down and he instantly put me in some kind of neck crank, i panicked and tapped and I got the win because neck cranks aren't allowed in the under-18 rules lol So because of that I was the National under-18 BJJ Champion, Advanced Absolute division, without doing anything basically. And now when i fight its one of those martial arts distinctions like Swedish Sanshou Champion that they say about you that you cant be sure actually means anything
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Also the beginner division had like 150 kids who mostly were super athletic sandbaggers who cut weight and poo poo and had to fight through a bunch of rounds and wait around all day to get a medal that sounded way lamer than mine. Owned
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manyak posted:On the topic of first grappling competitions, i first competed when i was 16 or 17 and had only been training for like 4 months. It was the under-18 National Championships and i signed up for the most advanced division because i wrestled a bit in school, and i thought I was freakin badass so I didnt want to sandbag (in retrospect of course I sucked rear end). I got there and the Advanced division only had like 7 people total so all genders, ages, and weight classes very unwisely got absorbed into one absolute division. My first match was against a 15 year old girl who i very uncomfortably outwrestled and she cried after. Then I had to fight a giant fat kid (probably 250~ lbs to my 160), i shot in and took him down and he instantly put me in some kind of neck crank, i panicked and tapped and I got the win because neck cranks aren't allowed in the under-18 rules lol manyak posted:Also the beginner division had like 150 kids who mostly were super athletic sandbaggers who cut weight and poo poo and had to fight through a bunch of rounds and wait around all day to get a medal that sounded way lamer than mine. Owned Lmao
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manyak posted:Also the beginner division had like 150 kids who mostly were super athletic sandbaggers who cut weight and poo poo and had to fight through a bunch of rounds and wait around all day to get a medal that sounded way lamer than mine. Owned 
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Thoguh posted:I'd rather roll with an rear end in a top hat who was wearing a clean gi than the nicest guy in the world whose gi smells like fermented piss. And there always seems to be 1 or 2 of those guys who think they can just stuff their gi in a bag between classes and only wash it once a week. My instructor has no problem publicly shaming frequent stinky people. It's nice.
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manyak posted:On the topic of first grappling competitions, i first competed when i was 16 or 17 and had only been training for like 4 months. It was the under-18 National Championships and i signed up for the most advanced division because i wrestled a bit in school, and i thought I was freakin badass so I didnt want to sandbag (in retrospect of course I sucked rear end). I got there and the Advanced division only had like 7 people total so all genders, ages, and weight classes very unwisely got absorbed into one absolute division. My first match was against a 15 year old girl who i very uncomfortably outwrestled and she cried after. Then I had to fight a giant fat kid (probably 250~ lbs to my 160), i shot in and took him down and he instantly put me in some kind of neck crank, i panicked and tapped and I got the win because neck cranks aren't allowed in the under-18 rules lol This is one of those stories that is great for totally different reasons depending on whether you just give the short version where you just say you're the Advanced Absolute Champ or the long version where you say how it happened. .
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CommonShore posted:There are a couple blue belts at my gym who will be like "Let's go light..." before diving into arm bars at like full spaz speed. We had a guy like this, very nice off the mats, but every roll is 100% and it's like he didn't understand anything else. He destroyed his own leg in a competition while trying to escape halfguard or something. Two years pass, I've forgotten he exists, he appears at my new school, and in the time that's passed I've gained enough skill that now I can use his own nerdrage against him to send him flying all over the place (while maintaining the most pretend-calm face I can manage). It's deeply satisfying
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manyak posted:On the topic of first grappling competitions, i first competed when i was 16 or 17 and had only been training for like 4 months. It was the under-18 National Championships and i signed up for the most advanced division because i wrestled a bit in school, and i thought I was freakin badass so I didnt want to sandbag (in retrospect of course I sucked rear end). I got there and the Advanced division only had like 7 people total so all genders, ages, and weight classes very unwisely got absorbed into one absolute division. My first match was against a 15 year old girl who i very uncomfortably outwrestled and she cried after. Then I had to fight a giant fat kid (probably 250~ lbs to my 160), i shot in and took him down and he instantly put me in some kind of neck crank, i panicked and tapped and I got the win because neck cranks aren't allowed in the under-18 rules lol manyak posted:Also the beginner division had like 150 kids who mostly were super athletic sandbaggers who cut weight and poo poo and had to fight through a bunch of rounds and wait around all day to get a medal that sounded way lamer than mine. Owned Owns
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Odddzy posted:Do most people here have one person or more they mostly refuse to roll with for reasons other than fear of getting injured? At this point there's a guy I've decided isn't worth it to roll with because I've figured we probably won't ever get along. Do these weird beefs sometimes eventually get settled for others here? I'm sure they do but it's been going on for the better part of a year and i'm curious to hear the stories of others. The smelly guy.
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Keg posted:The smelly guy. Don't sign your posts on this forum
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Sharzak posted:Don't sign your posts on this forum Nice Ippon
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Sharzak posted:Don't sign your posts on this forum You son of a bitch
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Speaking of poor hygiene, I've finally found out the guy that brings in ringworm to the gym. We were doing no-gi and he wanted to do some leglocks with me and then we started talking about positions and stuff that we like to attack the legs. At some point he opens his legs a bit to go to butterfly and I saw the worst ringworm I've ever seen. It was literally a patch on both legs that came from the crotch. For reference, My whole hand couldn't cover one patch on either leg even if I tried. I bought him a bottle of nizoral with an anonymous note I'll drop in his bag next time I see him so he gets rid of that poo poo.
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Uh tell the owner/coach right now - don't worry about his feelings jfc
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