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Moose-Alini posted:Can I skip to Traitor General after First and Only without missing out too much? No, in fact the entire plot of that book hinges on something you would have skipped.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 20:35 |
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Fellblade posted:No, in fact the entire plot of that book hinges on something you would have skipped. Not reading Necropolis is a mistake.
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# ? Sep 22, 2016 20:42 |
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Necropolis is a must read in my opinion. But god drat I am going mad waiting for Warmaster. I want to read the others again, but I'll have to buy them all anew which sucks balls. loving BL
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# ? Sep 23, 2016 12:29 |
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Maaaaaaaaaaan Fulgrim starts off real bad.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 02:20 |
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Moose-Alini posted:Can I skip to Traitor General after First and Only without missing out too much? Emperor No!
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 03:15 |
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I had noticed Inquisitor Horseface was mentioned early in First and Only but I didn't think he would actually make an appearance.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 04:36 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:It gets better. I somehow managed to avoid reading any in-progress novel series for the first twenty five years of my life or so and now over the last eight I've started drowning in poo poo that won't be finished for a decade or more. As for Warhammer, I'm caught up on basically all the megaseries that aren't Horus Heresy, along with a slew of standalone and smaller series so I guess it's time to ride that dark train.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 04:45 |
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Moose-Alini posted:Can I skip to Traitor General after First and Only without missing out too much? You are throwing out the entire Lijah Cuu story with that decision, as well as some excellent individual novels like Straight Silver and Necropolis. The only downright bad Gaunt's Ghosts novel I thought was Sabbat Martyr, which is a crying shame because it was supposed to be the culmination of everything from Honor Guard onwards. But the book is just way too short to effectively discuss the topics is brings up, and has some truly stupid moments, like a Chaos Dreadnought doing a Bugs Bunny and burrowing through the entire novel, only to pop out a chapter before the end, yell at people and then die before it does any damage.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 04:45 |
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Is it true that Abnett came up with Lijah Cuu because the hard drive failed on his computer while writing *some book* and Cuu popped up as a new character while he was trying to rewrite what was lost? I swear I read that somewhere...
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 05:15 |
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Yep.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 05:23 |
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Alright folks I'm convinced. Just bought Ghostmaker and guess I'll spend a few years getting to the great stuff.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 18:38 |
Moose-Alini posted:Alright folks I'm convinced. Just bought Ghostmaker and guess I'll spend a few years getting to the great stuff. No worries, you're only a book away from Necopolis and that is the great stuff!
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 20:11 |
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Also ghostmaker isn't that bad. Mkoll and Dorden really shine in that book.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 21:38 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Also ghostmaker isn't that bad. Mkoll and Dorden really shine in that book. It suffers from some early weirdness as its the book with the highest chaos marine to cultist ratio in the entire series.
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# ? Sep 24, 2016 22:58 |
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Still isn't a bad book, plus it made sense for the ghosts to see more marines while they were fighting as mainline infantry. The iron warriors they kept coming across were relative pushovers I'll admit, but the book is necessary to establish most of the tanith secondary cast members.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 00:59 |
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Enjoying Predator, Prey quite a bit more than I did the previous book, which considering it was Abnett, was a surprise. It's still dumb, but gloriously so.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 01:23 |
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Somebody reassure me that Horus Rising is on the low range of the spectrum for HH books please. I'll even settle for middling.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 19:54 |
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The issue with the HH books is the scale's a bit more extreme than that. Horus Rising is middling in that sense. You need to read a true classic of the HH series like Battle for the Abyss and then compare it to utter shite like Know No Fear. Honestly, you can just skip to Battle for the Abyss after the first three books, nothing in between them is of any value.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 20:01 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:The issue with the HH books is the scale's a bit more extreme than that. Horus Rising is middling in that sense. You need to read a true classic of the HH series like Battle for the Abyss and then compare it to utter shite like Know No Fear. Honestly, you can just skip to Battle for the Abyss after the first three books, nothing in between them is of any value. How can you fail to mention Nemesis? It's every bit as good as Battle for the Abyss, perhaps more so.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 21:02 |
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Fun spoiler alert, don't want the guy to actually think you are serious and then not read the legit good ones.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 21:17 |
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Fearless posted:How can you fail to mention Nemesis? It's every bit as good as Battle for the Abyss, perhaps more so. Nemesis is actually kinda fun though. Battle for the Abyss is just trash.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 21:19 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Nemesis is actually kinda fun though. Battle for the Abyss is just trash. If Nemesis was fun to you, you should be scared.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 21:23 |
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Fearless posted:If Nemesis was fun to you, you should be scared. It has some fun bits, namely any with the eversor in it, the rest is pure unadultered crap.
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# ? Sep 25, 2016 21:29 |
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Abandon all literary hope, ye who entre here, got it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 02:14 |
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For anyone who cares, there is a new Text-To-Speech video up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vh_N8CpcL0
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 02:18 |
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um....Eternal Crusade was released? woo? anyone check it out
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 02:54 |
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I hear it's not really worth the asking price. Apparently the game was released well before it was ready, and instead of the Planetside-style persistent world MMO that was touted early on it's basically a mediocre, unpolished Battlefield 40,000 instead.
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 03:06 |
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MMAgCh posted:I hear it's not really worth the asking price. Apparently the game was released well before it was ready, and instead of the Planetside-style persistent world MMO that was touted early on it's basically a mediocre, unpolished Battlefield 40,000 instead. So I guess since I ended up as the idiot who liked it I can give a quick rundown. The MMO stuff was promised by a guy who didn't actually have any working tech, and from what I understand basically lied to the studio heads until he got kicked out and they brought most of a new team in. So it's not Warhammerside anymore, it's a lobby shooter with some unlocks and visual customization and it's perfectly acceptable, even verging on pretty good, considered in a vacuum. Unfortunately, the reality of that vacuum is a lot of janky, sharp edges and lag and registration problems. Right now it's pretty much not worth the $50 'retail', but if you really want to know it's available for around $30 on various sites, but you won't be able to refund that purchase. My advice would be give it a couple months, if they can't fix the jank it'll die a quick death and you won't have to take the risk, if they can get it working well it's a fun game and fills that Warhammer power fantasy pretty well.
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 03:48 |
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MMAgCh posted:I hear it's not really worth the asking price. Apparently the game was released well before it was ready, and instead of the Planetside-style persistent world MMO that was touted early on it's basically a mediocre, unpolished Battlefield 40,000 instead. ....im not a hard man to please
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 04:01 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:For anyone who cares, there is a new Text-To-Speech video up. R.I.P. Dominique, you poor dumb addict.
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 05:55 |
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I watched a stream or Eternal Crusade and I see it as kind of a shittier Unreal Tournament. It brings nothing new to the table and then only thing it has going for it is the Warhammer skin. Hell, Unreal Tournament had cool titan assault missions and it's a goddamn travesty Eternal Crusade doesn't have an open city map with a pair of moving objectives in each foot of a walking titan.
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# ? Sep 26, 2016 10:49 |
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Are either the Path of the Eldar or Grey Knights omnibus collections worth getting?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:36 |
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Mr.48 posted:Are either the Path of the Eldar or Grey Knights omnibus collections worth getting? Haven't read them myself, but as fas as I know, they are on the below average/bad tier. Arbite posted:R.I.P. Dominique, you poor dumb addict. R.I.P , also I love this Russ, such a dick.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:57 |
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I read Path of the Eldar. It seemed like a pretty good overview of the Eldar as a race. So, boring.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 00:43 |
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The Grey Knights books were pretty ok. It's been a while but I remember the second (?) book was set on this Dark Mechanicus world and was appropriately bizzare. Nowhere near the quality of ADB or Abnet but worth a read if you like Grey Knights
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 02:34 |
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bango skank posted:I had noticed Inquisitor Horseface was mentioned early in First and Only but I didn't think he would actually make an appearance. RIP Inquisitor Horseface.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 03:56 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:I read Path of the Eldar. It seemed like a pretty good overview of the Eldar as a race. So, boring. Adding to this. Note that Path of the Eldar has a few sequels that retell the same story from different perspectives. I strongly advice against subjecting yourself to more than the first book.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 08:57 |
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I'm about two-thirds of the way through the new Genestealer Cults novella by Peter Fehervari. If you really likes the Calpurnia series, you'll probably like this book. I am not a big fan of his writing style, so this book is a little more difficult to get through for me than it should be. I was really having a hard time in the first 50 pages or so, but the book does pick up a bit, and having the GSC represented as one of the major players does help somewhat. I am familiar with GSC from the old days, but I was surprised at how the they are almost portrayed as vampires for the most part. The way they are written in the book almost allows you to swap out "Genestealer Cults" for "Vampire Counts." (Not really a spoiler, but it may be a conclusion you want to come to on your own.) This isn't a bad thing, and it's actually pretty logical, given the way they operate, but it never clicked that way in the past for me. Again, I don't think the book is that great, but if you like the Genestealer Cult concept, you might want to give this a read, since it gives you a little insight into how they operate (though most of the book is from the viewpoint of people outside the Cult.)
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 16:01 |
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In canon are there any large chapter-sized loyalist breakaways from traitor legions or are they all stragglers absorbed into Grey Knights and Deathwatch?
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# ? Sep 29, 2016 17:47 |
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In terms of ones that are basically outright stated to be, depending on how they're canonized now, the only decently sized one is Blood Ravens. There's a couple others but the lore is either super cagey about it, barely mentions them or they've been (mostly) wiped out; Death Eagles and Silver Skulls, Minotaurs kinda sorta.
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