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One Legged Ninja
Sep 19, 2007
Feared by shoe salesmen. Defeated by chest-high walls.
Fun Shoe

Skippy Granola posted:

Folks, what are the correct woods to use for a joiner's mallet?

The ones you have. As long as it's somewhat durable, and kinda dense, it'll work great. Make one with what you have, beat the snot out of it for a few years, and if it doesn't hold up, make a better one. You'll probably learn something about what you'd like in a mallet, so change your design as needed. More important than wood species is ergonomics, so do a little research on handle shape, handle length, and face angles. If you're doing larger projects mostly, make a larger mallet. If you work on tiny boxes and delicate things, make it a little smaller.

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mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Javid posted:

Here, there's an old, crazy, "Trump-is-too-far-left-for-ME" dude who owns a wood store between unsuccessful attempts to be elected to whatever office, who will look at it, then (maybe) sand a bit on it, sniff it, and then say what it is and be correct every time. I would bet there's someone similarly damaged near you who can perform this function.

Is there something wrong with all hardwood store owners?

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

wormil posted:

I never heard that about oak but I heard something similar about cedar. But I learned that what we call cedar in the U.S. is actually juniper or arborvitae. So it seems sketchy but who knows, maybe you're right.

"Cedar" is used as a name for basically every aromatic tree in existence. :shrug: The original cedars were in Lebanon, and I very much doubt they have much relation to Tennessee red cedar.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

mds2 posted:

Is there something wrong with all hardwood store owners?

I wouldn't say all. The guys who run the place in Norfolk VA seem really nice and helpful and not completely insane. But then again I haven't hung out after hours or gotten them completely alone.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



TooMuchAbstraction posted:

"Cedar" is used as a name for basically every aromatic tree in existence. :shrug: The original cedars were in Lebanon, and I very much doubt they have much relation to Tennessee red cedar.

Oh, wood?

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

ColdPie posted:

Drawbored joint turned out great and seems super strong. Also it only took one evening to put together. Made me super happy when this came together.



Wedged through mortise turned out like crap and took two evenings and most of Sunday, as the legs are about three inches thick. I had some bad breakout on the visible face, which totally ruins the effect. Also one of the wedges broke off while I was hammering it in. Also the end grain didn't clean up nearly as well as I hoped it would, probably at least in part due to the breakout. Oh well, I'm glad this was a test joint.



So that idea's in the trash until I get better at this, and I think I'll just drawbore all of the joints. Maybe I'll come up with something else for decoration. Or maybe I'll just call it "rustic".

There is something really satisfying about joinery. They also get a lot better after the first couple tries. What is the scale on that drawbored sample? The dowels seem a lot skinnier than what I've seen used.

For decoration on the tenons, have you considered a protruding tenon with roundover? I did them on my Paul Sellers bench and quite like them: https://paulsellers.com/2012/06/making-the-workbench-8/

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Cpt.Wacky posted:

There is something really satisfying about joinery. They also get a lot better after the first couple tries. What is the scale on that drawbored sample? The dowels seem a lot skinnier than what I've seen used.

For decoration on the tenons, have you considered a protruding tenon with roundover? I did them on my Paul Sellers bench and quite like them: https://paulsellers.com/2012/06/making-the-workbench-8/

They're a little small, but it's what I had on hand. The dowels are 3/16", the rail is about 5 inches wide. One concern I have with going larger is the tenon was only 1" long, so I wanted to avoid having the end grain break out within the mortise. Since I'm no longer doing through-mortises on the other joint, I may pull in the legs a little and add another half-inch to that tenon, which would let me do larger dowels.

Through mortises were just too much work through three inches of ash. Maybe next project.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Delta midi is much heavier and more robust, quieter, and way more powerful than the comet II. I'm liking it. I bore down pretty hard and couldn't stall the motor.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...
I found something for you guys

https://twitter.com/TheJoinery_jp

xwing
Jul 2, 2007
red leader standing by

Hubis posted:

I found something for you guys

https://twitter.com/TheJoinery_jp

Posted it two pages ago. Didn't get any comments... it's a bit hypnotic though.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

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I got this keyless chuck for my lathe:
https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/185/5436/Turners-Select-1-2%22-Keyless-Drill-Chuck

And man is it nice and smooth. Now I'm left wondering if I can put one on my drill press since it'd be waaaay nicer than the one on there. Box says Golden Goose and it ships not attached to the arbor.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Hubis posted:

I found something for you guys

https://twitter.com/TheJoinery_jp

xwing posted:

Posted it two pages ago. Didn't get any comments... it's a bit hypnotic though.

I enjoined this. Thank you.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Parts Kit posted:

if I can put one on my drill press

I asked that awhile back on GJ and overwhelmingly the answer was yes.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
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Yeah I think the only issues may be if Delta used some whack rear end taper for some weird reason or if I can't whack off the current one.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

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Does anyone know of a food safe finish that can stand up to alcohol? I was thinking it might be fun to turn some wood sake cups or shot "glasses."

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Urushi. But if you are doing sake, why not a masu?

https://youtu.be/MwPVcEMqKM8

Corky Romanovsky fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Oct 15, 2016

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Urushi. But if you are doing sake, why not a masu?

https://youtu.be/MwPVcEMqKM8



that youtube video led me to some leaked footage from Festool R&D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4j51Mor20

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Hubis posted:

that youtube video led me to some leaked footage from Festool R&D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4j51Mor20

There's something amazing and terrifying about a five-axis robot arm swinging an active circular sawblade through the air with no blade cover or other safety equipment whatsoever.

I mean, the robot should at least be wearing goggles. :v:

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Urushi. But if you are doing sake, why not a masu?
I'm going to pass on that finish, but I will look at making a masu.

Hubis posted:

that youtube video led me to some leaked footage from Festool R&D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb4j51Mor20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWNho8g0lsU

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Urushi. But if you are doing sake, why not a masu?

https://youtu.be/MwPVcEMqKM8



Twice I've been to Japan and recognize the boxes. They got me to play a game where we drank sake from successively smaller wood boxes that fit inside one another. We started with the large box, filled it with sake, drank, then to the next smaller size. I don't remember if anyone made it to the smallest. In exchange I taught them how to shotgun beer, they loved it. Fun times. Party animals. They also kept trying to make me throw up by ordering increasingly grosser raw food. I drew the line at raw shrimp heads in some kind of raw egg yolk sauce, it just didn't seem like the kind of thing you should eat with a stomach full of booze.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Update: Victorian dressing table is shellac and lacquer, then underneath some sort of varnish. I'm having to break the surface with methylated spirit and then coat in paint stripper to get it off. Draw fronts are walnut veneer, rest of it is still probably birch.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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So what are some decent online lumberyards? Also does anyone have any recommendations for lumberyards in Houston and Austin?

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

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Has anyone here tried using polyurethane or other finishes in a hvlp gun? I've got a nice compressor so it seems kind of stupid to spend cash on spray cans.

Atticus_1354 posted:

So what are some decent online lumberyards? Also does anyone have any recommendations for lumberyards in Houston and Austin?
I haven't ordered from either of these companies yet, but these places look to have respectable prices and selection.
http://www.cookwoods.com/
http://www.woodworkerssource.com/shop/SFNT.html

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Parts Kit posted:

Has anyone here tried using polyurethane or other finishes in a hvlp gun? I've got a nice compressor so it seems kind of stupid to spend cash on spray cans.

I haven't ordered from either of these companies yet, but these places look to have respectable prices and selection.
http://www.cookwoods.com/
http://www.woodworkerssource.com/shop/SFNT.html

Thanks I will check them out. Also, I should be heading to the ranch within the month and processing some more Ashe Juniper. I will fill up a flat rate box for you when I do.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Parts Kit posted:

Has anyone here tried using polyurethane or other finishes in a hvlp gun? I've got a nice compressor so it seems kind of stupid to spend cash on spray cans.

I haven't ordered from either of these companies yet, but these places look to have respectable prices and selection.
http://www.cookwoods.com/
http://www.woodworkerssource.com/shop/SFNT.html

Most anything should spray fine it just takes some fiddling with it to figure out the proper consistency to spray and not run. Also if it's a water based finish you want to make sure you get a sprayer with stainless steel parts or it can rust.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

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i have a hole in my head
durr

Thumposaurus posted:

Most anything should spray fine it just takes some fiddling with it to figure out the proper consistency to spray and not run. Also if it's a water based finish you want to make sure you get a sprayer with stainless steel parts or it can rust.
Thank you!

Atticus_1354 posted:

Thanks I will check them out. Also, I should be heading to the ranch within the month and processing some more Ashe Juniper. I will fill up a flat rate box for you when I do.
:w00t:

For other places to look locally, check cabinetry companies. There's one near me that has a scrap pile people can pick through for cheap walnut and such.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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I bought some new toys :)

Tres Burritos
Sep 3, 2009

mds2 posted:

I bought some new toys :)



:homebrew:

That jack plane is 100% great, the only bad thing about it is that the adjuster knob assembly falls out easy when the blade isn't on.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

mds2 posted:

I bought some new toys :)



I've been thinking about picking up the low angle jack from them, probably mostly for a shooting board. I have the rabbet block plane and it's my most used plane by a huge margin. Are those all the fancy different blades for the jack?

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

mds2 posted:

I bought some new toys :)



I have the block plane and used to have the jack, I plan on buying that smoother to replace my Stanley no3 eventually.

My hot take is at most you need two blades if you are going to use the jack for both roughing and jointing tasks, and that you always want to buy the low angle blades and just sharpen a micro-bevel to achieve whatever angle you are after.

Regardless you'll likely be very happy with your purchase.

(I sold the jack as I wanted dedicated roughing and jointing planes, and I didn't really need a really nice roughing plane. I now have an old Vaughan and Bushnell jack plane for roughing and the Veritas no6 as my jointer.)

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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US: 1-800-273-8255
These came as a set from lee valley. The jack, smoother, and block all came with 25 degree blades. The set also included a 50 degree smoother blade. Nice little bonus.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr
Is there any way to prevent or reduce the ungodly squealing that happens when boring pen blanks?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Install the biggest subwoofer you can find off of craigslist and crank up the bass, baby!!!!

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

mds2 posted:

These came as a set from lee valley. The jack, smoother, and block all came with 25 degree blades. The set also included a 50 degree smoother blade. Nice little bonus.

Yeah, that set is a good deal. If it came with one extra blade then certainly no loss there. Ease the corners and give it a go on gnarly stuff.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!
Oy, I built a pretty good sized box back in August for a wedding and now it appears the lid has shrunk. I'm pretty surprised since I made it by finger jointing the sides then cutting a rabbit in the top/bottom boards and gluing them on. Then cutting the lid off which means the top is firmly glued to some wood that goes cross-grain. Somehow the lid still managed to shrink a bit and now the latches don't quite line up anymore so you can't quite close it.

It's back for repairs now and I Was going to sand the front of the box down about 1/16th inch so it will line up again but now after typing this I am thinking I should check if any of the glue joints broke or something. It seems odd that the sides of the lid would compress to allow the whole thing to shrink. I should I should also double check that the hinges aren't hosed up or something.


Album
http://imgur.com/a/dOxmo

Edit: Also, I'm sorely tempted to take this deal on craigslist. I'm not sure why it's not gone already
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/mat/5831250832.html

Squibbles fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Oct 19, 2016

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Parts Kit posted:

Is there any way to prevent or reduce the ungodly squealing that happens when boring pen blanks?

If there is I don't know it. I've tried oil and wax to no avail. I think it's heat build up so maybe slow down, or speed up.

Squibbles posted:

I Was going to sand the front of the box down

I wouldn't. What if it expands again? Can you shim the hinges? That would be a non-permanent solution.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

wormil posted:

If there is I don't know it. I've tried oil and wax to no avail. I think it's heat build up so maybe slow down, or speed up.


I wouldn't. What if it expands again? Can you shim the hinges? That would be a non-permanent solution.

The hinges are piano style. I could move them in a little maybe. Might be tricky since it's such a small amount.

I might just have to switch the hardware to something more forgiving. With the box being as large as it is, wood movement is going to be noticeable i guess. Hmm, what would work best. Currently the latches have little pins that must line up before it closes all the way and it can be latched. That makes any wood movement at all cause issues.

Squibbles fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Oct 19, 2016

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Squibbles posted:

Oy, I built a pretty good sized box back in August for a wedding and now it appears the lid has shrunk. I'm pretty surprised since I made it by finger jointing the sides then cutting a rabbit in the top/bottom boards and gluing them on. Then cutting the lid off which means the top is firmly glued to some wood that goes cross-grain. Somehow the lid still managed to shrink a bit and now the latches don't quite line up anymore so you can't quite close it.

It's back for repairs now and I Was going to sand the front of the box down about 1/16th inch so it will line up again but now after typing this I am thinking I should check if any of the glue joints broke or something. It seems odd that the sides of the lid would compress to allow the whole thing to shrink. I should I should also double check that the hinges aren't hosed up or something.

Album
http://imgur.com/a/dOxmo


You might switch to some more forgiving type hinges. Nothing wrong with what you did, except wood gonna wood (move with relative humidity) and more shrinkage :jerry: occurs in the winter months.

Squibbles posted:

Edit: Also, I'm sorely tempted to take this deal on craigslist. I'm not sure why it's not gone already
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/mat/5831250832.html

Looks like a good deal, but keep in mind that 'mahogany' is a very generic term used flippantly. It's going to be some nice Asian hardwood though, most likely.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Mr. Mambold posted:

It's going to be some nice Asian hardwood though, most likely.

Says right in the ad, "This mahogany is Indonesian."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toona_sureni

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Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



wormil posted:

Says right in the ad, "This mahogany is Indonesian."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toona_sureni

Do I need to put a :pedantic: :science: on? :bahgawd: I'd buy it for a dollar, or 200 if that's what the guy's asking.

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