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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Turning Point - Wait, this isn't Wolfenstein: The New Order?




What is this?

http://i.imgur.com/ltXiMJe.gifv

Umm... What?

http://i.imgur.com/gqmqLNE.gifv

That doesn't tell me anything!

http://i.imgur.com/RQuEplB.gifv

I don't understand.

http://i.imgur.com/e0BDMLR.gifv

Well do you have any rules for the thread? Any spoiler policy?

http://i.imgur.com/6pVjMDF.gifv




Video List

Episode 1: Escape 2000 1953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=423N66EBXXI
Episode 1: Escape 2000 1953


Episode 02: Carson, you must destroy the White House!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4m2aji720
Episode 02: Carson, you must destroy the White House!



Episode 03: London Calling To The Underworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6EBsKNt-10
Episode 03:





Bonus Episode 01: The Art Of War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uSZSBf3To
Bonus Episode 01: The Art Of War

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 22, 2016

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GamesAreSupernice
Jan 3, 2014

Oh, whoa! Check out the Viewing Globe, shorty!
You're just keeping this warm for Stratafyre right?

This joke was a good idea

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

GamesAreSupernice posted:

You're just keeping this warm for Stratafyre right?

This joke was a good idea

Someone else knows this game? :aaa:



They are more than welcome to post their LP in this thread, if only to prove to me someone else has played it, on the off-chance of potentially having fun! (Reviews don't count!)

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
"...all 12 viewers..."



:aaaaa:

GoneRampant
Aug 19, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I remember hearing about this game and seeing it in a few bargain bins. Isn't it basically a mix of what Freedom Fighters was and what Wolfenstein the New Order would become?

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Someone else knows this game? :aaa:



They are more than welcome to post their LP in this thread, if only to prove to me someone else has played it, on the off-chance of potentially having fun! (Reviews don't count!)

I played this game, to completion even. I remember on their website they had this series of fake radio broadcasts that they used to explain the backstory of the game's setting. They had more work put into them than the actual game.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
drat!!! Been meaning to get this game. It looked pretty... Great :smith:

GamesAreSupernice
Jan 3, 2014

Oh, whoa! Check out the Viewing Globe, shorty!

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Someone else knows this game? :aaa:



They are more than welcome to post their LP in this thread, if only to prove to me someone else has played it, on the off-chance of potentially having fun! (Reviews don't count!)

Stratafyre is just a dork who LPed Oni ages ago for SomethingAwful's forums. He started an LP of this but quickly uh, stopped.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

GamesAreSupernice posted:

Stratafyre is just a dork who LPed Oni ages ago for SomethingAwful's forums. He started an LP of this but quickly uh, stopped.

I don't know why he'd stop this game wouldn't have [REDACTED]

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

This is the best worst game

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I've never played this, but I've watched the whole first level and a bit of the second on an online walkthrough (back when LPing wasn't really popular and people just played the games without commentary so people could see it). From what I've heard, the first level tries to write a check the rest of the game can't cash.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

frankenfreak posted:

"...all 12 viewers..."



:aaaaa:

:smuggo: It's like I come from an alternate universe where I knew it beforehand



GoneRampant posted:

I remember hearing about this game and seeing it in a few bargain bins. Isn't it basically a mix of what Freedom Fighters was and what Wolfenstein the New Order would become?

Basically. Its funny to me how The Old Blood takes place in the 40s, this takes place in 1953, and the New Order is in the 60s. Its a pretty heated debate on whether this game is worse than bargain bin stuff though, especially considering the multiplayer doesn't exist anymore (and was pretty bad to begin with according to reviews).


Ikasuhito posted:

I played this game, to completion even. I remember on their website they had this series of fake radio broadcasts that they used to explain the backstory of the game's setting. They had more work put into them than the actual game.

Do you happen to know if those were saved anywhere? It'd be cool to have them for posterity, or at the very least to listen and compare quality with the actual game.


Zain posted:

drat!!! Been meaning to get this game. It looked pretty... Great :smith:

I don't blame you, and I have a feeling that's how they tricked a lot of people into buying Legendary too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_Unlimited

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendary_(video_game)


GamesAreSupernice posted:

Stratafyre is just a dork who LPed Oni ages ago for SomethingAwful's forums. He started an LP of this but quickly uh, stopped.

How quickly did he stop? I bet it only took a New York Minute.


That's a joke for my buddy and pal Dan Carson.



Lunethex posted:

I don't know why he'd stop this game wouldn't have [REDACTED]

YOU LIAR!



Fuligin posted:

This is the best worst game

I don't know how to respond to this... :negative:



chitoryu12 posted:

I've never played this, but I've watched the whole first level and a bit of the second on an online walkthrough (back when LPing wasn't really popular and people just played the games without commentary so people could see it). From what I've heard, the first level tries to write a check the rest of the game can't cash.

There's a reason why the trailer only uses parts of the first act


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFyWL3XAtNI

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

Jobbo_Fett posted:

I don't blame you, and I have a feeling that's how they tricked a lot of people into buying Legendary too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_Unlimited

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legendary_(video_game)


Oh no I bought Legendary with the express purpose of it being poo poo.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Zain posted:

Oh no I bought Legendary with the express purpose of it being poo poo.

Please don't buy Turning Point: Fall of Liberty, I guarantee you it is poo poo :(

Kobbo_Fett
Dec 5, 2016

Boba? Never heard of 'im.
Turning Point - Wait, this isn't Wolfenstein: The New Order?





About the Game

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty.



You were supposed to laugh right there. Why? Well... this game is like a bad joke; you take the time to listen and only realise the horror about half-way through, at the latest, that its terrible. This game, to take a page out of Red Letter Cinema, is the biggest disappointment since my son that I have ever bought, and played.


"But Kobbo" you exclaim, "Why is it so bad?"


For starters, this game takes an interesting premise and then immediately pantses itself on live tv. It asks the question "What if this important person died unexpectedly, and how would it affect the "original" timeline?" It stops there, adds some bullshit future/sci-fi stuff and calls it a day. Literally.

And I'm a little ticked off by it, to be honest. The more I think about this game, and its 60$ retail price (Now going for a cool $1.50 USD), the more I can't help but shake the feeling that the developer/publisher were jerks about this.


So what exactly IS Turning Point: Fall of Liberty? It's a game set in 1953 that supposes that Winston Churchill, drunk politician extraordinaire, dies in a car crash in the 30's, specifically 1931. This, in turn, causes the Germans to win World War 2. Why? :shrug: Who knows, who cares? http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/

All of this leads to the United States of America not joining the war, the Germans conquer Europe (No mention of the Japanese, or Asia at large, is made) and then, because of reasons, the Germans Pearl Harbor New York! The Fiends!


You play as DAN CARSON... Laborer? Construction Worker? Supervisor? Man? Yeah, we'll just go with Man. And, as DAN CARSON, you have to fight for your life against the invaders. In an amazing display of foresight, being very similar to the latest Wolfenstein games, what with the future/scifi themes and tech and the alternate universe. However, TP:FoL also displays an amazing lack of polish and finesse. Don't believe me? Here, watch the English trailer for the game


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFyWL3XAtNI

Watched it? Good. That's all footage from the very first level. Of course, nothing was around to warn you of this in the good ole days of 2008. So, join Chaos Argate and I on this wild ride of mild editing, bad gameplay, and comparisons to better, more successful games!



About the LP

I would prefer if nobody spoiled this game, period. Its got some great twists and the destinations we'll be visiting are thrilling and breahttaking.

There won't be a "cut" version, because this game's dialogue sucks, none of the characters are interesting, and because it would mean I cared more about this game than the developers. There are some mild edits, but this LP will mostly be straight gameplay with no funny business. Mostly.

Kobbo_Fett
Dec 5, 2016

Boba? Never heard of 'im.
Sorry I'm late guys, traffic was bad.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
:eyepop:

Kobbo_Fett
Dec 5, 2016

Boba? Never heard of 'im.

What's with the staring, do I got something on my face?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
poo poo, is this the game that does WW1 with trenches and zeppelins in the fifties or not? I know I played something that looked like this but it's all grey and brown and blurry.

Zain posted:

Oh no I bought Legendary with the express purpose of it being poo poo.
:hfive:

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


A dude once did an LP of Spark's other game Legendary. He had an interview with a tester as part of his LP.

Some highlights:
-Spark's games are heavily linear. There is a Path, thou shalt not stray from the Path.
-Your allies do no damage. Literally.
-While the company has dedicated and talented individuals, for the most part they're focused on budget shooters. Most of their games are bare-bones, real-is-brown FPSs featuring Nazis.
-As much as I loving hate regenerating health and BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL, Legendary's HP mechanics were much worse.

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Dec 6, 2016

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

anilEhilated posted:

poo poo, is this the game that does WW1 with trenches and zeppelins in the fifties or not? I know I played something that looked like this but it's all grey and brown and blurry.
:hfive:

Are you thinking of Darkest of Days?




SSNeoman posted:

A dude once did an LP of Spark's other game Legendary. He had an interview with a tester as part of his LP.

Some highlights:
-Spark's games are heavily linear. There is a Path, thou shalt not stray from the Path.
-Your allies do no damage. Literally.
-While the company has dedicated and talented individuals, for the most part they're focused on budget shooters. Most of their games are bare-bones, real-is-brown FPSs featuring Nazis.
-As much as I loving hate regenerating health and BLOODY SCREEN SO REAL, Legendary's HP mechanics were much worse.

This is extremely true of this game, as we'll be seeing as we progress in the alternate timeline game

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Jobbo_Fett posted:


Do you happen to know if those were saved anywhere? It'd be cool to have them for posterity, or at the very least to listen and compare quality with the actual game.



Yes though they were actually news shorts rather than radio broadcasts.

sadly I couldn't find all of them and unfortunately the only ones I could find were in French.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozhEw4WMHaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP5gvAy2eFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Zz6xr9dGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd0USQd65cE

Kobbo_Fett
Dec 5, 2016

Boba? Never heard of 'im.

Ikasuhito posted:

Yes though they were actually news shorts rather than radio broadcasts.

sadly I couldn't find all of them and unfortunately the only ones I could find were in French.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozhEw4WMHaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP5gvAy2eFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Zz6xr9dGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd0USQd65cE

Good thing I can speak French, unlike that other guy.

Amebx
Aug 6, 2007

i'm a shark!!! i'm a SHAAAARK!! suck my diick!! I'M A SHAAARK!!

anilEhilated posted:

poo poo, is this the game that does WW1 with trenches and zeppelins in the fifties or not? I know I played something that looked like this but it's all grey and brown and blurry.
:hfive:

Sounds like maybe Iron Storm?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Amebixx posted:

Sounds like maybe Iron Storm?

Oh man, I forgot about that one. Probably is that one too!


I remember recording an episode for an LP of that game with someone else on SA but I never saw or heard from that guy ever again :(

skullhead tethyis
Dec 30, 2015

salt status: irascible

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

skullhead tethyis posted:


salt status: irascible

I'm going to test this when I get home, but nothing I tried worked :shrug:


Edit: Admittedly, it may have decided to eat my input(s) the first time around and then I never bothered trying again :v:

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 6, 2016

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I didn't notice this immediately, but those cylindrical, pale red "shell casings" must be the laziest model for ejected casings that I've ever seen in a video game.

Edit: Also holy poo poo the Garand ejects a loving full clip when you empty it.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Dec 6, 2016

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
Oh hey, this game actually exists. That 1/2 down out of the mid 00's crappy shooters that I'm not sure aren't false memories. You've played about up to the point where I quit, I'm curious to see where it'll end up.

The other game that I haven't been able to track down was a modern war thing with it's main gimmick being that there was two main characters, one with a sniper rifle and one with a light machine gun. Like TP, I only played the first level of it and can recall nothing else about it.

GamesAreSupernice
Jan 3, 2014

Oh, whoa! Check out the Viewing Globe, shorty!

Asehujiko posted:

Oh hey, this game actually exists. That 1/2 down out of the mid 00's crappy shooters that I'm not sure aren't false memories. You've played about up to the point where I quit, I'm curious to see where it'll end up.

The other game that I haven't been able to track down was a modern war thing with it's main gimmick being that there was two main characters, one with a sniper rifle and one with a light machine gun. Like TP, I only played the first level of it and can recall nothing else about it.

Third person or first person?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

chitoryu12 posted:

I didn't notice this immediately, but those cylindrical, pale red "shell casings" must be the laziest model for ejected casings that I've ever seen in a video game.

Edit: Also holy poo poo the Garand ejects a loving full clip when you empty it.



There's a lot about Turning Point that not only appears lazy, but is!



I'm starting to be convinced that the only reason it didn't score worse is because the reviewers got the game for free.

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
So I bought this game at full price when I was younger, played through all the way to the end and thought yes it was pretty drat boring but at least it couldn't get that much worse right. gently caress the ending, you useless developers.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

koolkevz666 posted:

So I bought this game at full price when I was younger, played through all the way to the end and thought yes it was pretty drat boring but at least it couldn't get that much worse right.

Lol, I'm hoping that your reaction is what everyone feels by the end of this long journey.

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Lol, I'm hoping that your reaction is what everyone feels by the end of this long journey.

I really hope so I didn't mind if not really enjoyed playing the game but the end oh it made me so so angry i have never played or looked at any games by this company since.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

koolkevz666 posted:

I really hope so I didn't mind if not really enjoyed playing the game but the end oh it made me so so angry i have never played or looked at any games by this company since.

:same: but twice now because I forgot literally everything about this game until 3 months ago when I tried to reference it in another LP and got :nostalgia:'ed into buying it.




Kinda like another game I just bought that was pure :allears: at the time it released, and is, as far as I know, a relatively obscure game.

(Thanks thread for mentioning shooter games in the 2000s!)

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Dec 7, 2016

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.

Asehujiko posted:

The other game that I haven't been able to track down was a modern war thing with it's main gimmick being that there was two main characters, one with a sniper rifle and one with a light machine gun. Like TP, I only played the first level of it and can recall nothing else about it.
Conflict: Denied Ops?

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
I do like how when shooter companies can't think of a good plot they pretty much just use this as an excuse plot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6FGjydvb20

Kobbo_Fett
Dec 5, 2016

Boba? Never heard of 'im.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozhEw4WMHaA

Kurfurstendamm, where the French sign their surrender to the Germans; Great Britain is occupied.

After the dramatic French defeat in June, the British capitulation marks the end of Axis conquests in occidental Europe. In the month of September, a series of attacks against the RAF's airfields literally destroys their fighting capability. The Luftwaffe's domination is thus uncontested and soon the British are forced to surrender.

Over the course of Operation Sealion, the Wehrmacht faced a demoralized enemy, due in part to the defeat at Dunkerque and the constant air raids by German aircraft. Within 48 hours, the Germans have reached, and occupied, London.


Nothing seems capable of stopping the Axis forces moving westward.

Calax
Oct 5, 2011

chitoryu12 posted:

I didn't notice this immediately, but those cylindrical, pale red "shell casings" must be the laziest model for ejected casings that I've ever seen in a video game.

Edit: Also holy poo poo the Garand ejects a loving full clip when you empty it.



That just means that instead of "reloading" what you're doing is catching the clip and re-inserting it

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Tin Tim
Jun 4, 2012

Live by the pun - Die by the pun

This thread has my blessings

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