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mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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I made a wine gift box from a the very last of my Hackberry. The box is for the person that gave me the tree.






video:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNsnGXLDFM8/

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
NSFW those pics, dude.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Phone posted:

NSFW those pics, dude.

????

I see a gift box I just made?

coathat
May 21, 2007

It's a joke about how good it looks.


That does make me eager to take out some more of my hackberries.

Cpt.Wacky
Apr 17, 2005

Hubis posted:

Is there any way to build a "proper" workbench that I could disassemble if needed (rather than gluing all the joints)?
Any thoughts?

The Sellers bench can be made to disassemble too. I did it with mine. The top slab is glued to the apron but the leg frames are secured with carriage bolts and wedges in the housing dadoes. You can see how it works starting about half way through this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDjZWo3b3U

I made mine about 5 feet long so that I could load it all into my hatchback and still close the door.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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coathat posted:

It's a joke about how good it looks.


That does make me eager to take out some more of my hackberries.


I was really hoping imgur wasn't replacing my images with porn.

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

It's not what it looks like.

mds2 posted:

I was really hoping imgur wasn't replacing my images with porn.

Nope just the offensively sexy woodwork.

I'd never heard of Hackberry but drat that is beautifully figured.

What's holding the ends on? Just a flexed stick? That's a really cool touch and again something I've never seen

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



mds2 posted:

I made a wine gift box from a the very last of my Hackberry. The box is for the person that gave me the tree.





video:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNsnGXLDFM8/

*Pooch connoisseur* mmm, yes, a faint musty odor. And the wine's ok too, ahaha!

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

mds2 posted:

I made a wine gift box from a the very last of my Hackberry. The box is for the person that gave me the tree.

The box is wonderful and all, and I'm about to send a link to my dad who likes making those, but...

more pics of the dog please.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Skippy Granola posted:

Nope just the offensively sexy woodwork.

I'd never heard of Hackberry but drat that is beautifully figured.

What's holding the ends on? Just a flexed stick? That's a really cool touch and again something I've never seen

The two tensioned dowels on the ends holds the whole thing together. No glue or anything.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Trabant posted:

The box is wonderful and all, and I'm about to send a link to my dad who likes making those, but...

more pics of the dog please.

Video of Hank wrestling with his best friend at the dog park:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEkXN0rlSO0/

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Doggies! :neckbeard:

It really is a great box. Virtually every example out thereuses the sliding lid approach, so the hinge action really sets it apart.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Phone posted:

Knock down Nichelson?


GEMorris posted:

Nicholson, but yes, the knock down Nicholson is one of the most accessible workbenches for a new woodworker and it also meets all the disassembly requirements.

Plans

More info

Granite Octopus: I like the bench crafted planing stop personally.

Welp. Looks like I've got a winter project.


Cpt.Wacky posted:

The Sellers bench can be made to disassemble too. I did it with mine. The top slab is glued to the apron but the leg frames are secured with carriage bolts and wedges in the housing dadoes. You can see how it works starting about half way through this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDjZWo3b3U

I made mine about 5 feet long so that I could load it all into my hatchback and still close the door.

In the interests of not restarting a holy war, I will evaluate this as well.

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010

mds2 posted:

The two tensioned dowels on the ends holds the whole thing together. No glue or anything.

That's awesome, great work.


Hubis posted:

Is there any way to build a "proper" workbench that I could disassemble if needed (rather than gluing all the joints)? My current workshop is the basement of a house with tight, probably-no-longer-code stair access that already makes getting wood down there kind of annoying. Anything of substantial weight/dimensions I might build down there is going to be staying there, unless I can break it down if/when we someday move.

Fine woodworking just featured a knockdown bench in a recent issue http://www.finewoodworking.com/2016/11/02/a-small-sturdy-workbench all mortise and tenon. Cool looking and goes together in a neat way.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Mortise and Tenon magazine ships with plane shavings as packing material.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I choose to believe the wax seal is meant to evoke the blood splatter from when you drive a chisel into that flap of skin by your thumb while making your mortise and tenon.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

ColdPie posted:

Mortise and Tenon magazine ships with plane shavings as packing material.



Wait, is that issue 2? I thought that just went to the printer.

Tres Burritos
Sep 3, 2009

Slugworth posted:

I choose to believe the wax seal is meant to evoke the blood splatter from when you drive a chisel into that flap of skin by your thumb while making your mortise and tenon.

:aaa:

How did you know?

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

mds2 posted:

I made a wine gift box from a the very last of my Hackberry.

I don't know anything about wine but I like your box and the noise it makes opening and closing.

Hubis posted:

In the interests of not restarting a holy war, I will evaluate this as well.

http://woodworkingtao.tumblr.com/post/88047081032/grahamforster-knock-down-workbench-inspired-by

This one you don't even need to take it apart, just put it in your pocket.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/gifts/page.aspx?p=66736&cat=4,104,53212&ap=1

One Legged Ninja
Sep 19, 2007
Feared by shoe salesmen. Defeated by chest-high walls.
Fun Shoe

Hubis posted:

In the interests of not restarting a holy war, I will evaluate this as well.

I made my Roubo bench knockdown, as well. I didn't glue the dovetailed double tenons into the top, or the long stretchers into the legs, and I left the drawbore pegs proud of the inside surface of the legs. When I moved into this rental, I just flipped the whole thing upside down, lifted up on the base, and gave the top a few sharp raps with a big mallet. I left the base in one piece, but I could have taken it down further into the two end assemblies, the stretchers, and the shelf boards if need be. It doesn't rack at all, but the top is 4" thick, the legs are 4x6, and the stretchers are 2x6, all oak. Of course it's all dependent on having just the right fit in the dovetails. Any tighter and it wouldn't come apart, any looser and it would wobble.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

GEMorris posted:

Wait, is that issue 2? I thought that just went to the printer.

Nope, issue 1.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

wormil posted:

I don't know anything about wine but I like your box and the noise it makes opening and closing.


http://woodworkingtao.tumblr.com/post/88047081032/grahamforster-knock-down-workbench-inspired-by

This one you don't even need to take it apart, just put it in your pocket.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/gifts/page.aspx?p=66736&cat=4,104,53212&ap=1

I've been eyeballing this for my bullshit apartment. Does anyone have practical experience with these? The consumer in me is appealing to convenience and the workman in me is spitting on the ground and telling me I could make something for half the price. :(

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



wormil posted:

This one you don't even need to take it apart, just put it in your pocket.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/gifts/page.aspx?p=66736&cat=4,104,53212&ap=1

Won't that one tip over on the first plane stroke? It seems awfully light and narrow.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!
It's not so much the price as the fact that it is very light and will wrack when you try to plane anything unless you brace the end of the bench against a wall.

When looking at any bench I think there are two main questions to ask:

1. If I'm planing a piece of wood will I be able to move/deform the bench? If yes then you may want to look into something heavier/sturdier.
2. If I had a cabinet door that was 18"x32"x1" how would I set up my work holding on this bench so that I could easily plane each of the six sides of the door? Not all at once obviously, but how could you fasten this thing to the bench to be able to plane edges and faces on a door that size.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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wormil posted:

I don't know anything about wine but I like your box and the noise it makes opening and closing.

Me too! I thought about waxing it but I really really like the creaking sound.

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

It's not what it looks like.

Cannon_Fodder posted:

I've been eyeballing this for my bullshit apartment. Does anyone have practical experience with these? The consumer in me is appealing to convenience and the workman in me is spitting on the ground and telling me I could make something for half the price. :(

I actually have that bench.

It is total poo poo for planing - I have to stand on a lower stretcher to stop it flipping end for end.

Once my new bench is complete it's going to become a sharpening station

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

nielsm posted:

Won't that one tip over on the first plane stroke? It seems awfully light and narrow.

It was joke.

GEMorris posted:

... will wrack when you try to plane

Racking in this sense is a twisting or folding of a table. Racking is resisted by aprons or stretchers typically, whose strength comes from shoulders and firmness of their attachment. The wider apart the shoulders the more they resist racking force. Even though it's a small bench and will probably scoot around those tall stretchers will stop it from folding. Also I posted it as a joke.

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

wormil posted:

It was joke.


Racking in this sense is a twisting or folding of a table. Racking is resisted by aprons or stretchers typically, whose strength comes from shoulders and firmness of their attachment. The wider apart the shoulders the more they resist racking force. Even though it's a small bench and will probably scoot around those tall stretchers will stop it from folding. Also I posted it as a joke.

I do know what racking is, I grouped it along with bench mass because while one doesn't directly lead to the other, they both affect the general "sturdiness" of the bench. I also think that bench will become a rhombus under the strain of planing due to weak joinery between the legs and the top.

I also thought it might be a joke, but I used it to point out some basic questions anyone should ask when analyzing the quality of a bench.

Shrug?

GEMorris fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Dec 9, 2016

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
I thought the 'you can put it in your pocket' would be a dead giveaway; too subtle I guess.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



rack 'em Jimmy

GEMorris
Aug 28, 2002

Glory To the Order!

wormil posted:

I thought the 'you can put it in your pocket' would be a dead giveaway; too subtle I guess.

Fair enough, I probably just used it as an excuse to bring up points i had been thinking about recently.

I really didn't think you thought it was a good bench.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
As you may recall: I am a scummy armature working in sub-par conditions...

My supplier provided some quality made to order piece parts, and now that they have acclimated at my place for a month, the dimensions changed subtly. I'm working with just hand tools and am prepared to just say gently caress it and proceed with my project referencing from the critical joint locations and saying bugger all to the external faces. Should I actually take the time to possibly destroy my pieces by re-squaring them?

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM

Corky Romanovsky posted:

As you may recall: I am a scummy armature working in sub-par conditions...

My supplier provided some quality made to order piece parts, and now that they have acclimated at my place for a month, the dimensions changed subtly. I'm working with just hand tools and am prepared to just say gently caress it and proceed with my project referencing from the critical joint locations and saying bugger all to the external faces. Should I actually take the time to possibly destroy my pieces by re-squaring them?

A very, very difficult lesson I have learned in my woodworking adventures is learning when to leave well enough alone. If you can make it work as is, I wouldn't mess with it.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

Corky Romanovsky posted:

... proceed with my project referencing from the critical joint locations and saying bugger all to the external faces.

In the old days they used to call that Woodworking.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Corky Romanovsky posted:

As you may recall: I am a scummy armature working in sub-par conditions...

My supplier provided some quality made to order piece parts, and now that they have acclimated at my place for a month, the dimensions changed subtly. I'm working with just hand tools and am prepared to just say gently caress it and proceed with my project referencing from the critical joint locations and saying bugger all to the external faces. Should I actually take the time to possibly destroy my pieces by re-squaring them?

I am also a filthy casual here, but one thing I have personally had to work to realize is...

wormil posted:

In the old days they used to call that Woodworking.

Woodworking is not Machining. It doesn't necessarily matter if what you build ends up matching your plans, so long as it is self-consistent. Or to put it another way, you need Precision, not Accuracy. Trying to work accurately from a plan, no matter how careful, has led me into problems countless times. On the other hand, just kind of winging the absolutes of the design while paying close attention to actual measurements/relative positioning of the various pieces has never really failed or been noticable.

Not sure if that's what you're getting at here, but thats my $0.02.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Hubis posted:

Not sure if that's what you're getting at here, but thats my $0.02.

Whoa whoa whoa, you go and say all that and then you try to throw tolerances as low as $1/50th at us? :raise:

huhu
Feb 24, 2006
How was the top of this box attached?

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Dowels into the sides, most likely.

Assemble bottom, front, back and one side, fit top into the one side, line up everything, attach other side.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Bad Munki posted:

Whoa whoa whoa, you go and say all that and then you try to throw tolerances as low as $1/50th at us? :raise:

Even worse - it's only a nominal 2-cents!

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Magres
Jul 14, 2011
I'm a total newbie to woodworking and, well, things - my grand total list of projects thus far are hanging shelves, building a wood+pipe pullup bar (that was a complete disaster, I'll have to take pictures to explain what a colossal pile of nonsense that was) and, probably my best slash least lovely project, a bed that I built so my fiance and I would no longer sleep on a mattress on the floor in our bedroom.

That said, as far as thread etiquette goes, is it cool if I post pictures of my babby's first woodworking projects and ask a million questions for improvement and advice and stuff? I'm guessing the answer is 'yes' because in my experience hobbyists of all stripes love bringing newbies into the fold, but thought it best to check first instead of potentially being an rear end in a top hat.

Also mds2 your winebox is absolutely gorgeous!! So is the urn you posted.


Hubis posted:

Is there any way to build a "proper" workbench that I could disassemble if needed (rather than gluing all the joints)? My current workshop is the basement of a house with tight, probably-no-longer-code stair access that already makes getting wood down there kind of annoying. Anything of substantial weight/dimensions I might build down there is going to be staying there, unless I can break it down if/when we someday move.

I'm perfectly happy to "cheat" and use something like carriage bolts to make some of the joints reversible (fully traditional would be nice, but I'm a practical man) but I'm not sure how I'd even go about converting the mostly M&T/half-lap designs out there to something that would work for me. I could use some heavy duty screws to pin some of the tenons in from the side, but I have a feeling that unless those joints are exceptionally tight I will probably still see a lot of wobble...

Any thoughts?

Something I'm trying on my next project (a little table for behind my sofa that amounts to a 2x6 with legs on it) is using hanger bolts and threaded nut inserts so I can tear the legs off when I move out of my current place. I'm not sure how sturdy it'll be (ie if it will even be sturdy enough for a narrow table, let alone a workbench) but it seems like it should work, given that I'm putting a ~1.5" machine screw socket into the 2x6 and the hanger bolt a good two inches into the leg.

Magres fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Dec 11, 2016

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