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Azran posted:I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl Sai Saici? Isn't that a girl's name?
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Azran posted:I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl I did and was still under that impression as a kid. 
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Dec 12, 2016 18:34
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Azran posted:I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl He was probably voiced by a woman, child characters usually are.
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Dec 12, 2016 20:02
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Azran posted:I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl I'm pretty sure in one of the audio dramas the cast is watching a stage play or movie dramatization of the series and Sai Saici is whining about being replaced with a girl. It actually might be him being replaced with Raine all together, I forget.
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Dec 12, 2016 21:28
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Azran posted:I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl
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Dec 12, 2016 21:52
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Droyer posted:He was probably voiced by a woman, child characters usually are. Surprisingly enough, only in the dub. The original version has him voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi. Also I was entirely sure he was a girl until I actually watched the show. Yamaguchi's voice is very much not feminine at all, so that snapped me out of it. I was kinda sad all the protagonists were male but then Allenby joined and Rain proved herself a gigantic badass so it was fine in the end. Far better than most Gundam shows.
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Dec 13, 2016 00:20
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Blaze Dragon posted:Surprisingly enough, only in the dub. The original version has him voiced by Kappei Yamaguchi. I say this every time it comes up, but if you haven't you should check out the director's other shows. Giant Robo: The day the earth stood still in particular.
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Dec 13, 2016 01:55
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I just watched the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam. Getting sick to my stomach about the idea of living in space is a natural reaction to watching a Zaku blow a hole through the side of the colony, right?
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Dec 13, 2016 04:17
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Star Man posted:I just watched the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam. Getting sick to my stomach about the idea of living in space is a natural reaction to watching a Zaku blow a hole through the side of the colony, right? Maybe, if your soul is bound by gravity.
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Dec 13, 2016 04:19
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Star Man posted:I just watched the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam. Getting sick to my stomach about the idea of living in space is a natural reaction to watching a Zaku blow a hole through the side of the colony, right? What about the one Amuro accidentally opens by hitting the nuclear reactor on the Zaku?
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Dec 13, 2016 04:42
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Thats... the first episode of MSG? ...right?
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Dec 13, 2016 04:43
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Star Man posted:I just watched the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam. Getting sick to my stomach about the idea of living in space is a natural reaction to watching a Zaku blow a hole through the side of the colony, right? Here's a fun fact: In the backstory of Mobile Suit Gundam Zeon invades a colony and inserts deadly gas into its air circulation systems, murdering everyone inside who isn't in a safe spacesuit with absolutely no possible way to escape.
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Dec 13, 2016 04:47
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And, because an absurd number of organizations in the UC are batshit evil and/or insane, the Titans gas another colony 6 years later.
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Dec 13, 2016 05:01
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Lord Koth posted:And, because an absurd number of organizations in the UC are batshit evil and/or insane, the Titans gas another colony 6 years later. The spacenoids showed them how it's done.
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Dec 13, 2016 05:26
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ImpAtom posted:Here's a fun fact: To elaborate on this: half the population of humanity died within a month. That opening "Initial fighting lasted over one month and saw both sides lose half their respective populations" is the sum total of humanity. Only one colony cluster stayed neutral during the war, and the others were all attacked at some point. If you would like a visual reference. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Dec 13, 2016 05:30
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"Fun" trivia: it was Cima Garahau in the Zaku I and as her superior officers told her squad that G-3 was a sedative and not a nerve agent, her being coerced into committing a war crime in the name of Zeon was a huge factor in her deciding to screw over Delaz in 0083.
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Dec 13, 2016 06:03
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IIRC that colony was also the home of Shiro Amada from The 08th MS Team.
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Dec 13, 2016 06:15
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3 posted:"Fun" trivia: it was Cima Garahau in the Zaku I and as her superior officers told her squad that G-3 was a sedative and not a nerve agent, her being coerced into committing a war crime in the name of Zeon was a huge factor in her deciding to screw over Delaz in 0083. I love how that is never actually explained in 0083 so it seems like Cima betrays Delaz for no reason.
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Dec 13, 2016 06:18
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War is hell.
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Begemot posted:I love how that is never actually explained in 0083 so it seems like Cima betrays Delaz for no reason. To be fair "He's a loving Gihren sympathizer" is a drat good reason to shank someone in the back. Cima got a raw deal. At least Fieseler got out okay. Comes, I suppose, from not letting an idiot like Kou get in the middle of your complicated political games.
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Dec 13, 2016 07:03
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This is why I want a Hollywood Gundam trilogy. Imagine a bunch of people squeezed in the theater, expecting another Star Trek Reboot, and then the movie starts with half of humanity getting wiped out in brutal war crimes.
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Dec 13, 2016 07:26
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But we already have G-Saviour.
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Belzac posted:But we already have G-Saviour. That's not how you spell The War For Earth
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Dec 13, 2016 09:46
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3 posted:"Fun" trivia: it was Cima Garahau in the Zaku I and as her superior officers told her squad that G-3 was a sedative and not a nerve agent, her being coerced into committing a war crime in the name of Zeon was a huge factor in her deciding to screw over Delaz in 0083. I actually really like Cima, because she's one of the few Zeon officers who ends up disillusioned and loses faith in the Zeon ideals after seeing the realities of the One Year War.
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Dec 13, 2016 10:31
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Lemon-Lime posted:I actually really like Cima, because she's one of the few Zeon officers who ends up disillusioned and loses faith in the Zeon ideals after seeing the realities of the One Year War. Have you read "The Plot to Assassinate Gihren"? Because it's good, and it sounds like what you want. I mean, they aren't as disillusioned as Cima, since they still like the whole "Newtypes! Souls not bound by gravity! Zeon Zum Deikun!" side of the balance, but they do plot treason from disillusionment with the "Colony drops! Mass genocide! Gihren Zabi!" part of things. Not many mobile suit fights, but they're pretty solid when they come. And it's the one time I've seen someone say "Sieg Zeon" and wanted to cheer in the non-bronx style.
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Dec 13, 2016 10:42
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Yeah, The Plot to Assassinate Gihren is good. I wish it'd get an animated adaptation.
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Begemot posted:I love how that is never actually explained in 0083 so it seems like Cima betrays Delaz for no reason. I am pretty sure there is a cut clip of this where Cima has a dream flashback whilst chilling in her own ship for Stardust Memories?
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Lemon-Lime posted:Yeah, The Plot to Assassinate Gihren is good. I wish it'd get an animated adaptation. 
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SeanBeansShako posted:I am pretty sure there is a cut clip of this where Cima has a dream flashback whilst chilling in her own ship for Stardust Memories? I seem to remember some kind of extras on the 0083 dvds dealing with cima's past, but it's been probably 12 years since I've had them.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I am pretty sure there is a cut clip of this where Cima has a dream flashback whilst chilling in her own ship for Stardust Memories? It was an audio drama, but they did actually include it in the US dvd release.
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While we're talking about fun UC stuff, I just watched Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky out of curiosity (watched the episodes as they got released) and the sequence they put in at the end of the film got me wondering: what the heck is this? It has hands that detach and shoot lasers! 
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rincewind101 posted:While we're talking about fun UC stuff, I just watched Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky out of curiosity (watched the episodes as they got released) and the sequence they put in at the end of the film got me wondering: what the heck is this? It has hands that detach and shoot lasers! I think it's a psychommu prototype High Mobility Zaku II.
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It's a prototype Psycommu Zaku, a testbed unit for the Zeong from the end of the original series. http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-01_Psycommu_Test_High_Mobility_Type_Zaku_II
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SeanBeansShako posted:I am pretty sure there is a cut clip of this where Cima has a dream flashback whilst chilling in her own ship for Stardust Memories? It's been a while since I've played it so I could be wrong, but either the dream flashback or the actual event where Cima does the gassing should be in one of the Gundam Games. I want to say Encounters in Space?
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Airspace posted:It's been a while since I've played it so I could be wrong, but either the dream flashback or the actual event where Cima does the gassing should be in one of the Gundam Games. I want to say Encounters in Space? Yeah, Encounters In Space had a Cima-focused thing. It even had an alternate ending where she survives and joins the Federation.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, Encounters In Space had a Cima-focused thing. It even had an alternate ending where she survives and joins the Federation.  Cima is the true protagonist of 0083, the plot is just framed around the guy who murders her for the entirely justified and well-thought-out reason of
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, Encounters In Space had a Cima-focused thing. It even had an alternate ending where she survives and joins the Federation. And then she quits when she realizes the Titans are just about as lovely as Zeon, planning to use her troops for the same kind of dirtywork. Because she cares for her people and has enough battered shreds of morality to assemble into a conscience, more than you can say for most Zeon officers and more than a few of the Feds. But she died, and Kou and Nina lived. Ain't no justice.
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3 posted:
See, I don't agree with this. As was stated just a few posts above, none of the things that make Cima interesting are in 0083. Cima isn't an interesting or good character in 0083, she's made one retroactively by supplemental material that came out later.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone disagrees that Cima would have been cool to lead in 0083 if given the chance, but the reality is that Cima kinda sucks as much as everyone else does in the 0083 we got. I look at it like the Gihren games and such; a really cool concept that we never got, nor probably will, in the main UC shows. People just like Zeon too much to see it obviously crappy, I guess. 
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Well, she does almost saved the day only for things to be hosed over by the "heroes". Seriously, without Kou and his crew, she'd have stopped Delaz!
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