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As far as I can recall, there were only two notables who did the waterboarding thing: Hitchens and radio personality Mancow. Both agreed it was torture afterwards.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I had no clue who had actually done it I just remembered hearing about a media type, who possibly could have been right wing, did that. You're not learning anything about Hitchens right now. He was a right wing media hate type. You were right in the first place. Some atheists like him because he hated the "correct" people.
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TildeATH posted:Christopher Hitchens was so right-wing he got rid of his hair because of its socialist tendencies. Him being a rabid athiest confused me, I'll admit  . I am not trying to purposely say he wasn't right wing, I literally didn't realize. Sorry.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That is going to happen anyway. Trump will give Pence a blank check on that front. Probably. It's a definite thing if Pence is the only person in charge of the executive office though. I can see Trump actually maybe dragging his feet on it if he thinks people won't worship him enough for it. Or if he thinks he'd somehow get more twitter likes for spinning himself as the guy in the administration that's defending LGBT people. Regardless there's some really hosed up days ahead. Archonex fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Angry_Ed posted:Him being a rabid athiest confused me, I'll admit He started out as a rabid atheist focusing his ire on extremist Christianity and then decided that the real enemy was Muslims and (more broadly) brown people. Like so many things, his mind was a casualty of 9/11.
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Hitchens' debate with Alistair McGrath is likely one of the finest examples I've seen of someone demolishing someone else's points while staying calm, on point and never being personal or annoying. That said, he definitely knew which way the wind was blowing after 9-11, and decided he might as well use his atheist for his 'polemist' cred while sucking Military-Industrial wang by the meter to make bank was a sound plan. It felt particularly galling seeing him proudly state that the US 101st Armor Corps was the vanguard of atheism in the world while military leaders like that Boykin* loon were openly bragging about their god smiting the muslim satans on the battlefield. I'll say this, though; he was more entertaining and less of a greasy poo poo than Sam Harris. Hell, that's still trie after years in the grave. * - poo poo, now I'm afraid to check him on Google because there's even odds he's being tapped by Trump or his team for something.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:06
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Chowder is so faking that waterboarding holding his head up, shouldn't he be totally reclined back and head held down?
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Dec 22, 2016 04:13
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I think Archer had the best take on waterboarding.
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Dec 22, 2016 04:14
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Did he actually do it or pussy out?
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Dec 22, 2016 04:20
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Covok posted:Did he actually do it or pussy out? It sounds like he created an artificial situation where he was "technically" waterboarded. For example, when my wife dips a carrot in Sabra (TM) hummus and feeds it to me even after I've said that I'm too full and don't want any, I'm "technically" being "force fed" hummus just like American victims at CIA torture sites.
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Radish posted:Teen Vogue, apparently the bastion of journalistic insight in this country, was right on when they said he was gas lighting the nation. Hah, did you see those articles in the Guardian and on Wonkette about how Teen Vogue apparently decided teenage girls are woke as hell these days so they've been writing some of the better political journalism out there all of a sudden? That's.... actually pretty cool! Yet simultaneously terrifying!
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MattO posted:Chowder is so faking that waterboarding holding his head up, shouldn't he be totally reclined back and head held down? Yes. Also who's Hitchens?I thought it was Mancow who got boarded and came up saying "This is torture and I barely survived a moment."
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Dec 22, 2016 04:46
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Teen Vogue feels it is important to let their readership know that their parents voted for them to become property of a man and lose all the rights that they had until now felt were safe
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Well that's the rub: if it isn't bad, then why would it work? Not that I think torture produces useful information, but if it did, wouldn't it need to be hard to endure? Torture is an international crime. Right wingers want waterboarding to be labeled "not torture" because they want Muslims to be tortured while they can say technically the US did nothing wrong. Yes, it doesn't make sense that they want it to be somehow not that bad and yet also a way to physically and mentally harm someone until you force information out of them.
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Tender Bender posted:Torture is an international crime. Right wingers want waterboarding to be labeled "not torture" because they want Muslims to be tortured while they can say technically the US did nothing wrong. Yes, it doesn't make sense that they want it to be somehow not that bad and yet also a way to physically and mentally harm someone until you force information out of them. As I mentioned before, in the 20 or so seconds I subjected myself to that nonsense his army buddy or whatever was straight up saying it wasn't torture because torture causes pain and possibly lasting damage, and waterboarding does not...somehow. The hoops the right wing will jump through just to torture someone is ridiculous.
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Archonex posted:If Trump gets impeached or somehow stripped of any authority in the party then you can kiss LGBT rights for the next four to twelve years goodbye. If his recent past is any indication then Pence is just as much of a loving lunatic and is all but slavering to persecute anyone in that particular minority group. He just knows how to hide his crazy poo poo better than Trump and most of the fringe politicians do. I don't think anti-gay crusading is a winning strategy for the GOP anymore. The country has moved on, and gay rights are pretty popular. Remember the humiliating Indiana boycott in response to Pence's anti-LGBT law? Blow that up to nationwide level, and you see a pretty big backlash against Pence.
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Jurgan posted:I don't think anti-gay crusading is a winning strategy for the GOP anymore. The country has moved on, and gay rights are pretty popular. Remember the humiliating Indiana boycott in response to Pence's anti-LGBT law? Blow that up to nationwide level, and you see a pretty big backlash against Pence. Thankfully, the GOP have a showman so they can distract us with foreign policy nonsense while ramming through a damning domestic policy. Huzzah!
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Dec 22, 2016 06:15
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Crowder cheesed the gently caress out of his "waterboarding".
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Tender Bender posted:Torture is an international crime. Right wingers want waterboarding to be labeled "not torture" because they want Muslims to be tortured while they can say technically the US did nothing wrong. Nah, they really don't care about international crimes. The only people who parse the debate that finely are the Very Serious People and people who work in the executive branch. Arguing about whether or not waterboarding is torture is just a useful distraction. Most of the right wing likes torture and thinks it's fine. They think we should do more of it. They think John McCain is just a senile old liberal. ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 07:10
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If we have nukes and torture chambers, why aren't we using them?
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Dec 22, 2016 07:11
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Shbobdb posted:It sounds like he created an artificial situation where he was "technically" waterboarded. For example, when my wife dips a carrot in Sabra (TM) hummus and feeds it to me even after I've said that I'm too full and don't want any, I'm "technically" being "force fed" hummus just like American victims at CIA torture sites. yeah I skipped to the end and they were going for round two but he pulled the washcloth off of his own face and wasn't immediately hit in the forehead with a rifle butt
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Jurgan posted:I don't think anti-gay crusading is a winning strategy for the GOP anymore. The country has moved on, and gay rights are pretty popular. Remember the humiliating Indiana boycott in response to Pence's anti-LGBT law? Blow that up to nationwide level, and you see a pretty big backlash against Pence. gay people maybe, but everyone is just fine discriminating against trans people still. the male fear that any woman might trick them into liking a dick-haver is strong in this country.
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Dec 22, 2016 15:31
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Peanut Butler posted:yeah I skipped to the end and they were going for round two but he pulled the washcloth off of his own face and wasn't immediately hit in the forehead with a rifle butt if he's not laying flat, how can the water go up his nose!? That's the whole point!
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:gay people maybe, but everyone is just fine discriminating against trans people still. the male fear that any woman might trick them into liking a dick-haver is strong in this country. Yeah. It's not a big thing in the media given how batshit the last year's Republicans have been but groups like the Family Research Council that were the primary lobbying, PR, and "intellectual" forces behind the anti-gay crap have been slowly rebranding themselves to be anti-transgender instead. They're heavily tied up into the evangelical movement and as a result the Republican party as well. The bathroom bill in North Carolina was at least partially because of groups like that. And despite the Republican's and Trump's claims of being pro-LGBT now guess which groups are Trump's advisers on how to handle LGBT people as of the last report that was made public? I'll give you a hint. It sure as hell isn't an LGBT advocacy group. Edit: Another fun fact! The Family Research Council in particular supported the infamous bill in Uganda that made homosexual activities punishable by death. Y'know, just in case you were curious as to what they really want to do to LGBT people. Archonex fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 19:09
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I wish they recreated Sicario with Crowder in the chair
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I wish they recreated The Cask Of Amontillado with Crowder in the chair
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I wish they recreated Red Dragon/Manhunter with Crowder in the chair.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I wish they recreated Sicario with Crowder in the chair +3
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Listening to RWM over the last month, you'd never ever know that Republicans swept the election. These are the whiniest bunch of victimized pussies I've ever seen, which is made even worse by how much they talk about bootstraps and self reliance and poo poo. Frankly, I expected a lot more smug self righteousness and bragging but nope. Same old bitching and moaning about powerless people doing gently caress all about anything.
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BiggerBoat posted:Listening to RWM over the last month, you'd never ever know that Republicans swept the election. These are the whiniest bunch of victimized pussies I've ever seen, which is made even worse by how much they talk about bootstraps and self reliance and poo poo. The secret weakness of right wing media is that it needs a false persecution complex to survive. If listeners accept they're in power, they'll tune out.
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RWM desperately wanted Trump to lose. They are all super loving pissed that Hillary was such a rotten loving candidate. E: hell Just now I was listening to some Sean Hannity from the living room and he was vaguely rambling about Christmas and Black people. It was a really boring diatribe. I'm almost certain he had months of programming ready to talk about the hell crusade we need to march in to stop the Prime Shaitan: Hillary. Now all this reptile vermin has to talk about it vague identity poo poo that can't possibly give his addict audience the fix they need. They NEED real persecution. Rexicon1 fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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I'm actually pretty curious how many people are still watching RWM like they used to. As some fucker once said "nothing alienates someone more from politics more than picking a winning candidate."
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Trump winning means now they all have to do half 180's from conservative bullshit to his populist bullshit. See he wasn't lying to you when he said drain the swamp he's lying now so Obama doesn't something something. -Rush
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HootTheOwl posted:Trump winning means now they all have to do half 180's from conservative bullshit to his populist bullshit. See he wasn't lying to you when he said drain the swamp he's lying now so Obama doesn't something something. What will they say when he is in office, Obama is doing his "miss me yet" tours, and Trump controls all 3 branches of government and is still loving them?
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Rexicon1 posted:RWM desperately wanted Trump to lose. They are all super loving pissed that Hillary was such a rotten loving candidate. This. They were expecting 4 years of being the small guy, now its looking to be 4 years of justifying what Trump does. And if Trump goes full Trump, that will mean throwing away the veil of being an average American and having to start acting like they are.
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happyhippy posted:This. And their supporters will continue to happily suck their dicks and swallow their jizz as they continue to reveal how evil they truly are.
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I get now that they have to fall in line with Trump plus the whole DNC hack right wingers have gone full blown Russia apologist, but looking through all the crazy sites it seems like they've been on the government side of Syria this whole time. That makes me think they've been having pro-Rusia creep in for awhile now. Anyone know when this started? It's super weird to have my Alex Jones loving brother in law have complete distrust for the evil overreaching US government but look the other way on a dictatorship. I mean my expectations are pretty low but still.
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An update in the "War on Christmas": Jewish Family Flees Home After Breitbart Runs Story On Canceled Christmas Playquote:A Jewish family has temporarily left its Lancaster County, Pennsylvania home, citing fear of retribution after coming under fire from conservative news outlets that blamed it for the cancellation of an elementary school production of "A Christmas Carol." Also the initial "complaints" never happened, according to the school, and the play was cancelled because preparations took up to twenty hours of class time and no one seemed to take interest when it was proposed that said preparations be done after school instead. I guess this is that "Christmas spirit" people always talk about.
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Covok posted:What will they say when he is in office, Obama is doing his "miss me yet" tours, and Trump controls all 3 branches of government and is still loving them? As long as there is a single Democrat in power anywhere, it'll be their fault. If that fails, Obama screwed up America so hard that Trump is trying his best to fix everything but he's just having it so hard with how bad Obama ruined the country.
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