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So my family member that waited until the last minute to buy my present just went to home depot and picked up several Bessey clamps. I have them trained well.
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How long does a spray lacquer'd surface actually need to dry to be ready for wet sanding and the final coats? I keep reading that I'm supposed to wait weeks or even months, but that seems like ludicrous overkill. That seems to be the amount of time it takes for the lacquer to completely harden, but so far I've only been letting my stuff set for 2 days every time before the final coats, and it hasn't been problematic at all. the finish is basically perfect (at least in my eyes) even with that short drying period. What's up with that?
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Dec 25, 2016 02:27
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GEMorris posted:So my family member that waited until the last minute to buy my present just went to home depot and picked up several Bessey clamps. I'm hoping my family listened to my wish list, which was like 75% woodworking stuff. I could reaaaaaalllyy use some new/more clamps
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Dec 25, 2016 03:05
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Minorkos posted:How long does a spray lacquer'd surface actually need to dry to be ready for wet sanding and the final coats? I keep reading that I'm supposed to wait weeks or even months, but that seems like ludicrous overkill. That seems to be the amount of time it takes for the lacquer to completely harden, but so far I've only been letting my stuff set for 2 days every time before the final coats, and it hasn't been problematic at all. the finish is basically perfect (at least in my eyes) even with that short drying period. What's up with that? Lacquer dries very quickly. The old toluene based stuff that killed many a painter dried insanely fast. Very forgiving stuff. Your experience is correct, what you're reading is apparently bullshit. Even if you're using water based, it still dries quite fast. edit- nitrocellulose, I think that's what I was trying to think of Mr. Mambold fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Dec 25, 2016 |
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Dec 25, 2016 04:49
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GEMorris posted:So my family member that waited until the last minute to buy my present just went to home depot and picked up several Bessey clamps. That's pretty sweet actually, I usually get stuff like carving knives from Harbor Freight or something equally useless although more often I've been getting wood which is an A+ gift far as I'm concerned. Minorkos posted:How long does a spray lacquer'd surface actually need to dry to be ready for wet sanding and the final coats? I keep reading that I'm supposed to wait weeks or even months... It takes weeks or months for a lacquer finish to "fully cure" but you can recoat as soon as it's dry to the touch. Drying and curing are related, dry is when the top layer flashes off it's solvent and feels dry. Cured is when ALL the solvent has evaporated out and nothing but solids remain. Lacquer will melt into itself meaning each subsequent coat will slightly dissolve the previous. But keep in mind the thicker the finish, the longer it will take to cure and will smell like lacquer thinner in the meantime. I did an experiment a couple years ago where I finished a cup in lacquer, kept it suspended upside down so any fumes would stay inside and would occasionally sniff to see if it was cured, it took about 3 months for the smell to go away completely and that was only 3 coats. re: wet sanding. I've never done that with lacquer and am not sure if it's necessary. Lacquer is very durable but is not 100% impermeable to moisture, at least not the consumer stuff that you would buy in a hardware store.
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Dec 25, 2016 06:40
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Almost forgot, I came here to post that Fine Woodworking is giving away 10 plans over 10 days. Yesterday's was a Krenov style cabinet by Mike Peckovich. Today is a modified Enfield cabinet by Matt Kenney. Go to their Instagram home page to find the link. https://www.instagram.com/finewoodworkingmagazine/
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Dec 25, 2016 06:44
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Magres posted:I'm hoping my family listened to my wish list, which was like 75% woodworking stuff. I could reaaaaaalllyy use some new/more clamps We do a not so secret santa where everyone tells the gift giver what they want, and all I asked for was a pair of earmuffs with bluetooth so I can listen to audio books while I'm working. Even sent a link to exactly what I wanted. I got a set of headphones with noise cancelling.
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Dec 25, 2016 08:00
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It'll dry quickly, but to fully cure enough to take a proper polishing it it can take up to 30 days. Depending on the brand of lacquer. Some cure faster than others. A good rule of thumb is to sniff it if it still smells like lacquer it's not ready yet. You can wet sand and polish it before it's fully cued out but as it continues to cure the finish can dull and sink into the grain more.
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Dec 25, 2016 12:15
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NPR Journalizard posted:We do a not so secret santa where everyone tells the gift giver what they want, and all I asked for was a pair of earmuffs with bluetooth so I can listen to audio books while I'm working. Even sent a link to exactly what I wanted. This happened to me one year, I even tore an advertisement from a magazine and they took it to the store. Still got got the wrong thing. Salesperson talked them into something different. This year I got a Freud dado blade and Festool sander, for Woodworking gifts. Also my spellcheck insists on capitalizing Woodworking, also it does not recognize "spellcheck".
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Dec 25, 2016 16:43
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wormil posted:This happened to me one year, I even tore an advertisement from a magazine and they took it to the store. Still got got the wrong thing. Salesperson talked them into something different. lol. Freud dado pack then? I used my wobble dado last summer for the 1st time in forever to make my wife a finger-crawler therapy bar for her shoulder.
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Dec 25, 2016 17:24
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Yep, Freud 8" set, from my daughter. I own a wobble blade but have never used it. For rabbets and dadoes I've always made multiple passes.
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Dec 25, 2016 20:01
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Been wondering if I should build a tool cabinet in the future... Instead of my current system which is a tool wall with tool holders. My main reasoning is, it seems more compact and can be more easily moved if I re-arrange the shop, which seems to happen and probably will happen again more than once when I knock down a wall and incorporate another small room into it. But OTOH a simple tool wall with some plywood is very versatile and allows me to keep on changing my layout all the time. A cabinet might be a little more permanent in layout... I dunno...
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Dec 25, 2016 22:22
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I've never had a wall cabinet for tools but I love the tool wall I built this last fall, one of the best things I've ever done. However, mine would certainly benefit from being more compact. A few things I thought were used infrequently are up top and it turns out I use them more often than I thought so I might rearrange some day. One downside is you need to keep the area in front of the wall relatively empty or reach over a bench or tool to get things. With a cabinet you could build it out so it sticks out over whatever is underneath.
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Dec 25, 2016 23:11
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What about smaller more specialized cabinets. Like one for hand planes and one for saws. Allow room to grow and mount on the wall with room for external tool holders as well. Hang everything from French cleats so you can expand and add as you like. That is my plan.
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Dec 25, 2016 23:11
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Would anyone mind sharing some photos? I'm trying to figure out how to organize my "shop" a bit since I have stuff spread around all over.
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Dec 26, 2016 00:10
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Falco posted:Would anyone mind sharing some photos? I'm trying to figure out how to organize my "shop" a bit since I have stuff spread around all over. Sure!   (click for fullsize) You wanted counterexamples, right?
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Dec 26, 2016 00:35
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His Divine Shadow posted:Been wondering if I should build a tool cabinet in the future... Instead of my current system which is a tool wall with tool holders. My main reasoning is, it seems more compact and can be more easily moved if I re-arrange the shop, which seems to happen and probably will happen again more than once when I knock down a wall and incorporate another small room into it. But OTOH a simple tool wall with some plywood is very versatile and allows me to keep on changing my layout all the time. A cabinet might be a little more permanent in layout... I dunno... I work out of a Dutch tool chest and it's awesome at helping me stay organized and keeping dust off of my tools. I also used my tool chest as an opportunity to purge my excess tools that didn't warrant a space in the chest. Link
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Dec 26, 2016 01:55
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GEMorris posted:I work out of a Dutch tool chest and it's awesome at helping me stay organized and keeping dust off of my tools. That looks nice. I may have to add that to the list since it is relatively mobile.
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Dec 26, 2016 02:17
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Spent the day at home with family, eating delicous food, exchanging gifts, etc. Also spent the day making an extra gift for my sister, a wand stand:  Black and White Ebony, finished with BLO. Very happy with how it came out considering this piece features my first two mortise and tenon joints for the wand holder bits.
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Dec 26, 2016 03:29
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Falco posted:Would anyone mind sharing some photos? I'm trying to figure out how to organize my "shop" a bit since I have stuff spread around all over. I'm in a weird state of having no real bench (other than a big assembly/outfeed table) and I still need to build a miter saw station (mostly for drawer space).   It's a weird shaped space, 25' x 17' (and tapering down to 11.5')  New workbench might end up at 6' so I have room for low cabinets on either side, and potentially a monster drum sander.
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Dec 26, 2016 04:32
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Man I am seriously jealous of the size of that workshop.
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Dec 26, 2016 13:18
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Thanks for the replies re: cabinets, I think I'll need to mull on this for some years yet... It'll need to be wall mounted though, I have no space left on the floor. Now that the worst christmas bustle is over I can continue on the kids bench:    Just started on taking the tenons down, I think I'll move to my jointer plane rather than smoothing once I got them down enough to level it off. Construction grade lumber really is a bitch to work with. Thinking of water based poly as a finish, since it cures much faster and doesn't yellow. I dunno I want to experience with water and PVA glue a bit and see if I can get a good looking stain...
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Dec 26, 2016 14:16
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Does anyone here do CA finishes and have any tips? My thin bottle has expired thanks to the humidity in the shop and moving up to medium seems like a very bad choice from the initial test.
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Dec 26, 2016 18:05
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I've used a lot of ca glues including expensive boutique brands. Most are the same but the very best I've used is Loctite Pro, not the regular Loctite ca glue which is the same as all the other stuff. For me, the Pro works exactly how you think a super glue should work and is less likely to harden in the tip.
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Dec 26, 2016 18:41
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This stuff? https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Liquid-Professional-20-Gram-1365882/dp/B004Y960MU
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Dec 26, 2016 18:53
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I'm a big, big fan of the overly-fancy Fastcap 2P-10 because it comes in 2oz or large 10oz bottles. Fastcap will replace it if it hardens in the bottle, too. I keep around thick for quick jigs and weird glueups, and thin for filling cracks and fixing splits.
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Dec 26, 2016 19:15
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Parts Kit posted:This stuff? Yes. I've had bottles that lasted a year. My wife bought three bottles of that Bob edit; corrected brand name wormil fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Dec 26, 2016 20:11
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Rad. The Bob whatever is what I have on hand currently and yeah the tip is a pain in the rear end, the one that's dead is several months old but what most likely killed it is the cap slowly breaking. Thanks!
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Dec 26, 2016 20:16
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Got myself a belated christmas present, two oilstones (8x2") of the brand Dan's Whetstone, one black arkansas and one soft.
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Dec 26, 2016 20:33
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You wanna see what frustration looks like? I really need to start drawing plans again. Not only does it make the woodworking go faster but it prevents stupidity like this. I think it would actually be faster to build a new box than make new drawers.
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Dec 26, 2016 22:16
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GEMorris posted:I work out of a Dutch tool chest and it's awesome at helping me stay organized and keeping dust off of my tools. This is timely. I was thinking the other day that it might make sense to join one of the maker spaces around town. I can't work in my garage during winter, and it might be a cool way to meet people. A local one has an open house each Wednesday. If I like what I see, maybe I'll build a tool chest that I can lug around instead of a wall-mounted cabinet like I'd been planning.
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Dec 26, 2016 23:14
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wormil posted:You wanna see what frustration looks like? Cut out the middle and glue in a decorative spline to widen the box. Or just cut the middle out of the drawer back and front and put something on the face to hide the seam. Maybe a big fancy drawer pull or a name plate or something. What is the box for? Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Dec 26, 2016 |
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Dec 26, 2016 23:23
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Atticus_1354 posted:Cut out the middle and glue in a decorative spline. Tempting but I suspect that would also take longer than remaking the box and might be a bit fiddly. I'll make a new box for the too big drawers then make new drawers for this box. It's not like a tool box is ever going to waste. I used a lock joint for both drawers and case. I figured if it's good enough for Gerstner it's good enough for me and I always wanted to try it. They turned out well but it was touchy getting the tongue just perfect. The new drawers I might do splined miters or maybe build that box joint jig I've been putting off for a decade.
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Dec 26, 2016 23:52
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ColdPie posted:This is timely. I was thinking the other day that it might make sense to join one of the maker spaces around town. I can't work in my garage during winter, and it might be a cool way to meet people. A local one has an open house each Wednesday. If I like what I see, maybe I'll build a tool chest that I can lug around instead of a wall-mounted cabinet like I'd been planning. My dutch tool chest is slightly smaller than the one I linked so I could fit it in the trunk of my Miata for similar reasons.
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What do people think about this as a first set of chisels for a beginner? Narex Czech Steel Premium 4 pc Set True Imperial 1/8", 3/8", 5/8", 7/8" Bench Cabinetmaker Chisels w/ Hornbeam Handles 863253
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Dec 27, 2016 03:36
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I think the set of 4 Stanley Sweetheart socket chisels are a good bit better for a little bit more money. If Amazon is still running the Stanley deal it's not even that much more. This is based on continued reviews I see about Narex having spotty quality (some people get great ones, some get ones that are poorly tempered or have other issues) and my personal experience with the Stanleys
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Dec 27, 2016 04:13
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His Divine Shadow posted:Thanks for the replies re: cabinets, I think I'll need to mull on this for some years yet... It'll need to be wall mounted though, I have no space left on the floor. Dang those tenons look crisp. I also used some roubo double tenons and mine look like utter drat dogshit.
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Thanks, they're cheater tenons so I didn't really chop any mortises, basically I planed everything, and I mean everything to the same thickness, that allowed me to just laminate the center of the top first, then start puzzling together the pieces. I'm thinking about shellac as a finish now, not as durable but easy to touch up and has a very warm living color...
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Dec 27, 2016 12:27
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GEMorris posted:I think the set of 4 Stanley Sweetheart socket chisels are a good bit better for a little bit more money. If Amazon is still running the Stanley deal it's not even that much more. Great, I was looking at those as well. That confirms some of the questions I had about the Narex stuff -- I'd alternatingly heard it was great quality for the price, and that it had a host of issues like not holding a good edge. Is there any reason I'd want to go with the 8-piece set? Or should 1/4" + 1/2" + 3/4" + 1" do me pretty well?
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GEMorris posted:I think the set of 4 Stanley Sweetheart socket chisels are a good bit better for a little bit more money. If Amazon is still running the Stanley deal it's not even that much more. I've heard that the Narex's sold at Lee Valley have undergone additional QA/QC, they even have different coloured handles so you know which ones your getting. Not sure how true that is though. ^I wouldn't bother with an 8 piece set, I've only had 3 for the past 4 years and have never felt I needed more.
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