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uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy

Auron posted:

So I used to be able to control my Xbox One S with the KS8000 remote, but now that input just shows up as HDMI2/DVI instead of Xbox, and the remote no longer works. I've tried soft resetting the TV, plugging and unplugging the Xbox, etc, but it still won't label the Xbox like during initial setup.

Is there an input detection setting I'm not seeing somewhere?

Not positive but a couple things I've noticed with my KS8

1. Unplugging the one connect box (your input dongle) seems to make everything start from scratch even more than unplugging the TV's power or resetting things.

2. On the home menu when you go to sources and highlight your HDMI input the Xbox is hooked up to, you can press up on the remote and it will let you edit what it shows up as (this may not get you anywhere other than labeling it, but if you switch things around here it may do something)

3. For control, from the home menu I added things by selecting universal remote and going through some initial setup.

All that being said, I too feel like my Xbox label dropped off at some point, but I'm not sure about controllability as I use a harmony.

Good luck.

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Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

uwaeve posted:

Not positive but a couple things I've noticed with my KS8

1. Unplugging the one connect box (your input dongle) seems to make everything start from scratch even more than unplugging the TV's power or resetting things.

2. On the home menu when you go to sources and highlight your HDMI input the Xbox is hooked up to, you can press up on the remote and it will let you edit what it shows up as (this may not get you anywhere other than labeling it, but if you switch things around here it may do something)

3. For control, from the home menu I added things by selecting universal remote and going through some initial setup.

All that being said, I too feel like my Xbox label dropped off at some point, but I'm not sure about controllability as I use a harmony.

Good luck.

I'll try unplugging the OneConnect. The edit menu is just to edit the label unfortunately. I've done the universal remote option to link my soundbar to my roku, but there's not option for game consoles.

Tykero
Jun 22, 2009
Anyone have recommendations for a 1080p 55" set under $700?

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!

Tykero posted:

Anyone have recommendations for a 1080p 55" set under $700?

I know you're asking for 1080 but the 4k Samsung UN55KU6300 just dropped to $695.

Mine hasn't arrived yet but it seems to review well in the budget category

Tykero
Jun 22, 2009

Shere posted:

I know you're asking for 1080 but the 4k Samsung UN55KU6300 just dropped to $695.

Mine hasn't arrived yet but it seems to review well in the budget category

Thanks for the recommendation.
Where are you buying it from?

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
Welp, my roughly 10 year old 67" Samsung LED DLP just died. From most of my reading its about a 200 dollar board that needs to be replaced. Worth keeping it around and repairing? Other than it not "firing" when you turn it on, it was working flawlessly up until the day it died. It has had a few wierd issues in the past where I had to unplug it to get it to turn off, so all signs point to the board going out. Kinda sucks not having a tv in the bedroom on hangovers.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!

Tykero posted:

Thanks for the recommendation.
Where are you buying it from?

I grabbed mine on Amazon but it was also the same price at Walmart, Best Buy, and Target when I checked out the floor models.

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
Is there a recommended or one-stop online shop for installer stuff like plates, fish tape, angled boxes, keystone plates, cables? It seems like everything is spread all over the place, and monoprice seems to not have everything I need.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

uwaeve posted:

Is there a recommended or one-stop online shop for installer stuff like plates, fish tape, angled boxes, keystone plates, cables? It seems like everything is spread all over the place, and monoprice seems to not have everything I need.

Parts-express.com

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy

Don Lapre posted:

Parts-express.com

Thanks!

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
monoprice.com i start there for everything.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

veedubfreak posted:

monoprice.com i start there for everything.
Maybe read their post next time. Monoprice doesn't have everything they need.

KS
Jun 10, 2003
Outrageous Lumpwad

xgalaxy posted:

Local video store is selling the LG B6 OLED 65" for $2749 w/ extended 5 yr warranty and 3 years 0% interest.
Should I pull the trigger or gamble and see if it goes lower once the B7 hits the market?

It's been as low as 2300 and change from reputable places, so that's not a terrible deal with the warranty, but not the best. For reference, Costco sells a 3 year squaretrade warranty for $90. Lots of people also using credit card price protection to "price match" the scammy places like East Coast TV to cut more off the price.

Right now people have had good luck with the IElectrica seller on Ebay -- the TV is $2300 from them.

I've found this deal thread really useful.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

How does the UN70KU630D at Costco compare to the KS8000? Does Costco sell a KS8000?

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

FogHelmut posted:

How does the UN70KU630D at Costco compare to the KS8000? Does Costco sell a KS8000?

Costco does have the KS8000, I believe it's called the xxxxxx800D.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

FogHelmut posted:

How does the UN70KU630D at Costco compare to the KS8000? Does Costco sell a KS8000?

The 55" is the best value for size on rtings for under $1000 (there are a couple better overall quality picks under $1000). The 8000 is a lot better, and not too much more money (although I haven't seen a 70" one).

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Dogen posted:

The 55" is the best value for size on rtings for under $1000 (there are a couple better overall quality picks under $1000). The 8000 is a lot better, and not too much more money (although I haven't seen a 70" one).

I had a 55" Sony 3LCD from 10 years ago up until I moved last year. I've been getting by on a 40" Samsung since, which is basically adequate, so I'm not going to make a move unless its big - 65" or better. The 70" KU630D is only $100 more at Costco than the 65", so why not?

But now I'm seeing the 65" online for under $1000. I guess the sale price at Costco for $1250 isn't the best deal.

But looking at the 65" KS8000 vs 65" KU6300, they have to be apples and oranges, right?


Should I expect the KS8000 to go on sale again for the Superbowl?

FogHelmut fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jan 18, 2017

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Dogen posted:

The 55" is the best value for size on rtings for under $1000 (there are a couple better overall quality picks under $1000). The 8000 is a lot better, and not too much more money (although I haven't seen a 70" one).

The 55" KS8000 is < $1000 at costco starting January 22nd (although just barely).

FogHelmut posted:

I had a 55" Sony 3LCD from 10 years ago up until I moved last year. I've been getting by on a 40" Samsung since, which is basically adequate, so I'm not going to make a move unless its big - 65" or better. The 70" KU630D is only $100 more at Costco than the 65", so why not?

But now I'm seeing the 65" online for under $1000. I guess the sale price at Costco for $1250 isn't the best deal.

But looking at the 65" KS8000 vs 65" KU6300, they have to be apples and oranges, right?


Should I expect the KS8000 to go on sale again for the Superbowl?

Yes, Costco has the 65" KS8000 for $1479 and the 55" KS8000 for $979 starting January 22nd.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

FogHelmut posted:

But looking at the 65" KS8000 vs 65" KU6300, they have to be apples and oranges, right?

Yeah you're going from the budget range to the high end range basically.

Check out the reviews on rtings if you want to see the difference.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
We bought a Samsung 55 JS9000 curved last year that's been a real piece of poo poo for about 4 months. Constantly shuts itself off, reboots itself, turns off the screen but still plays audio. We've had Samsung send techs out 3 times to do poo poo (basically replace the oneconnect box and main board) and it's still doing it. Samsung is seeming willing to refund us the cost.


So we need a new TV that isn't an unreliable piece of poo poo. We've had Panasonic plasmas since 2001 that still work wonderfully (shame they aren't made anymore). Sony? LG? No Samsung, they have self-immolated their brand over the last couple years imo.

4k is nice but not necessary. Has to have good, intuitive app functionality. 55 inch. Curve is meaningless. An outstanding picture is a must. We paid 1600$ for the JS9000 and feel like that's a good ceiling.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
1080p LG OLED maybe?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


At 55", I'm pretty sure you could get a B6 for around $1600. They're just a hair over $1800 on Amazon right now.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Dogen posted:

1080p LG OLED maybe?

This suggestion makes less and less sense with current pricing. Get the b6

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
Alright, in my quest to mount my TV I've now gone to retard lengths to get a pull-down mount and HDMI over fiber for a long run, so I'd be remiss if I didn't at least try to do the in-wall stuff right.

Background is I'm hanging a 65" KS8000 over the fireplace. I'm using a Harmony hub which will be located at the equipment rack (out of sight of the TV). The problem to be solved is how to get the IR to the TV. The harmony comes with mini blasters (which are far from mini) that look like they use a 2.5mm mono plug into the hub.

My choices are basically keystone behind the mount with connector x -> connector x/2.5mm adapter -> IR blaster, or an IR emitter keystone on the wall across from the TV.

So I guess the questions are

1. Instead of trying to hunt down piecemeal stuff like 2.5mm mono keystone passthroughs, 2.5mm mono CL2-rated cable in like >50' lengths, should I just get readily-available CL2 RCA cable and deal with the adapters? I know I have to be careful about using stereo plugs and jacks to make sure my intended single signal has continuity.

2. Am I likely to be able to use any random IR emitter with the harmony hub? Like if I find a nice keystone IR emitter, or a smaller 2.5mm-wired emitter with adhesive instead of the large lovely one that came with the harmony, as long as I can physically adapt it to the hub port, what are my chances of getting it to work?

3. If I'm going to go overboard and run conduit, should I just use 1.5" schedule 40 gray pvc and call it a day? I can't fit the 2" in because the holes would be larger than 40% of the 2x6 studs. I know there's the carlon ent flexible stuff, but this is really for the small run, 10' horizontal and 8' vertical to an unfinished basement, seems like I can pick up a couple straights and 45 degree bends at home depot all with flared ends, for short money.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Maybe dumb question, but what's in the equipment rack and how much control over the TV do you need?

If you are using a receiver and really only need to turn the TV on and off, HDMI-CEC may suffice.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

uwaeve posted:

Alright, in my quest to mount my TV I've now gone to retard lengths to get a pull-down mount and HDMI over fiber for a long run, so I'd be remiss if I didn't at least try to do the in-wall stuff right.

Background is I'm hanging a 65" KS8000 over the fireplace. I'm using a Harmony hub which will be located at the equipment rack (out of sight of the TV). The problem to be solved is how to get the IR to the TV. The harmony comes with mini blasters (which are far from mini) that look like they use a 2.5mm mono plug into the hub.

My choices are basically keystone behind the mount with connector x -> connector x/2.5mm adapter -> IR blaster, or an IR emitter keystone on the wall across from the TV.

So I guess the questions are

1. Instead of trying to hunt down piecemeal stuff like 2.5mm mono keystone passthroughs, 2.5mm mono CL2-rated cable in like >50' lengths, should I just get readily-available CL2 RCA cable and deal with the adapters? I know I have to be careful about using stereo plugs and jacks to make sure my intended single signal has continuity.

2. Am I likely to be able to use any random IR emitter with the harmony hub? Like if I find a nice keystone IR emitter, or a smaller 2.5mm-wired emitter with adhesive instead of the large lovely one that came with the harmony, as long as I can physically adapt it to the hub port, what are my chances of getting it to work?

3. If I'm going to go overboard and run conduit, should I just use 1.5" schedule 40 gray pvc and call it a day? I can't fit the 2" in because the holes would be larger than 40% of the 2x6 studs. I know there's the carlon ent flexible stuff, but this is really for the small run, 10' horizontal and 8' vertical to an unfinished basement, seems like I can pick up a couple straights and 45 degree bends at home depot all with flared ends, for short money.

Just buy these
https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Ext...ords=ir+blaster

plus 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and use 3.5mm headphone extension cables. Pull it with the hdmi cable.

xgalaxy
Jan 27, 2004
i write code
You'd think this day and age with wifi/ethernet enabled devices we could move past loving IR blasters.

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy

bull3964 posted:

Maybe dumb question, but what's in the equipment rack and how much control over the TV do you need?

If you are using a receiver and really only need to turn the TV on and off, HDMI-CEC may suffice.

No dumb questions. Equipment rack should have been in quotes, as it's currently going to be a random spare coffee table in the unfinished basement with the receiver, xbones, and appleTV. Source switching is done at the receiver like you mentioned. I want to be able to drive the TV from the universal remote, the most common thing is changing the picture mode or backlight setting. I mean, it's not like the earth implodes if I wind up having to have the TV remote handy to control the TV. I just thought with a bit of forethought and another couple :tenbux:, I might be able to just extend IR to the TV, since I'm already opening up a wall and spending idiot money on all the rest of this crap.

Currently thinking of doing something like this behind the TV, with one side being 1-gang power, one side being 1-gang 6-port keystone (HDMI, two 5-way posts for center channel, and whatever IR jack I wind up using), and the back being blank for expansion.

I understand the possibility of using CEC, but I'm hesitant to rely on it, even if it works for my current setup. Also I don't know enough to know if it can be used to control anything other than on-off. Again, it may be a good solution, but given an open wall and a few bucks, I'd like to achieve the dream of never leaving the couch.

The next hurdle to overcome is whether the xbone controller still works through the floor...games are a sort of nice-to-have, it's mostly there to be a UHD BRD player, which works fine being controlled by the harmony so it won't ruin my world if I can't play halo anymore.


Don Lapre posted:

Just buy these
https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Ext...ords=ir+blaster

plus 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter and use 3.5mm headphone extension cables. Pull it with the hdmi cable.

These are great, just what I was looking for. I had an old Universal Remote (brand) universal remote, and it used things like this that I just stuck right on the receivers of all my crap upstairs and was able to route everything downstairs over coax in an old house, they look much better than the stupid foam-bottomed manta ray repeater that came with the Harmony. I think I may do these blasters and just run the RCA cable in the wall and do some adapters. I'm sure it doesn't matter but for whatever reason the whole in-wall rating thing is bugging me. I'm sure it's fine to just pull the headphone extension but then I realize the oil tank and furnace are sitting right below where this is going to penetrate the plate to go up to the first floor.

Thanks both of you for your thoughts and prayers as I start kicking holes in a perfectly good wall.

xgalaxy posted:

You'd think this day and age with wifi/ethernet enabled devices we could move past loving IR blasters.

Agreed. It'd be nice to actually just run Ethernet up to the TV and be able to somehow send commands like SET BACKLIGHT TO 13 instead of MENU, PICTURE, ADVANCED SETTINGS, BACKLIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. I'm not an installer or whatever though so I'll probably forego trying to figure this poo poo out and maybe just hope I can make some macros for the harmony (I've only had it for a couple weeks).

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

sellouts posted:

This suggestion makes less and less sense with current pricing. Get the b6

I didn't realize the B series had gotten that cheap.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
Hmm, my inclination is toward OLED because it's new and exciting and has deep blacks (love that about plasma). She wants a Sony whatever ... Ruh Roh

Android app suite does sound kinda cool though

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Sony OLEDs launch in spring.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

bull3964 posted:

Sony OLEDs launch in spring.

Although possible first gen issues, right?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


They're LG panels. I wouldn't expect really any issues.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Shouldn't be too many issues but I wouldn't expect Sony to go the affordable route for that launch

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Why does she want a Sony?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Recognizable brand most likely.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Rastor posted:

Shouldn't be too many issues but I wouldn't expect Sony to go the affordable route for that launch

Z9D is still going to be their flagship display and the 65" version of that streets for $5k right now.

So, I would expect Sony's 65" oled to be priced somewhat below that. Likely higher than LG, but Sony's TVs always undergo pretty steep discounts.


sellouts posted:

Why does she want a Sony?

Honestly, if it didn't mean losing 3d, I would have a HARD time not figuring out a way to sell my C6 to pick up the Sony if it was somewhat affordable. Don't get me wrong, I love my C6, but Sony's picture engine is just that much further above everyone else's at this point. My W900A beats the pants off my C6 for motion handling.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

I understand the reasoning behind it. Was curious as to hers.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"
I've had a mid-level Sony for years and it's held up really well. It's not fancy or impressive but it has been reliable and fine. That has more value to someone who doesn't even notice when dark scenes are washed out by white subtitles. No controversy over the brand and they still carry a sense of a better product, if not as flashy.

Sony OLEDs will be out of our budget. What's their best current TV? X850d? (The 930 has a glossy screen yeech)

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Well, their best current TV is the Z9D. But that's in another whole league of pricing.

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